Wow, cabinet reprinted! They got them one of those newfangled 3D printers and printed a cabinet! Cool!
Gotta get me one of them thangs!

That guy is pretty shaky at best. He has parted out some perfectly good games because he feels he can make more money that way. I was really interested in his Bally "Hay-Ride" but didn't want to pay for shipping it. Now he tore it apart and is selling it in pieces. Same with the Williams "Jolly Roger". Both were complete operating games in nice condition. I don't know about the "Sing Along" because there's no BG or PF in his listings.

I'll pass on the "Top Card". I'd grab that "Sky-Line" for $150 though. I wonder if it's the same guy in NH with all those games. I know who owned the "Gold Strike" before this guy in NH, and he said it was really bad. He picked it up in East Orange, NJ of all places.

I got a chance to play a "Mermaid" many years ago at the Wayne, NJ show. Shay brought it. It was pretty much in "as found" condition and played sluggishly. It's probably a good player properly shopped and restored.

He probably burns the cabinets to stay warm!
What kind of shape was the PF in? I know someone who could have used it if it was decent (alas!).

The guy is from rural Connecticut. I warned him about East Orange, but he went and got the game. He already has a sample "GS" (#4). He was disappointed with the condition of the one from East Orange and somehow passed it on to the guy in NH. Around and around it goes!

Where was it listed?

Man, what a shame. That game could easily have been saved. Seriously, I wonder what he does with the cabinets? My brother could use that "Sing Along" box. Too bad it's in Alabama if it hasn't been busted up and used as firewood anyway.

Man, if that were up here I'd grab that game in a heartbeat!

Yeah, but anytime they use the word "antique", it means "leave your wallet"!

Whoa, sample game too. 12th "PAC" made. Road trip anyone?

You're killing me! Another one I'd grab in a second if it were nearby. You don't see some of these Williams games every day.

What a colorful cabinet on that game. I think I played one of these at the York show a few years ago, and it was a dog.

Nabbed it this morning. It's really quite clean and has been in a home environment for a long time. Backglass has some issues along the top edge, but the guy really wanted it out so I got an even better deal on it! It played so hot that I thought it may have been high-tapped, but it wasn't! He actually dropped a quarter in it to start the game!
He handed me a bag of coils and stuff as well. What's not to like? (oops, shouldn't have asked)

Yeah, I've had a few; namely a couple of "Dealer's Choice" and a "Lucky Ace". This "Spanish Eyes" was just a little surprising because it's not like an actual pinhead owned it and maintained it. Usually, homeowner games in "as found" condition play rather sluggishly. He dropped a quarter in this thing to demonstrate it and it really popped! One of the score reels will need some work, but overall this game was surprisingly clean. I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't this nice, and I had my max offer in mind as well. The guy really seemed to want it out, so I knew I had a good chance to negotiate a super deal. It worked out well and I'm happy with it. A little sprucing up, and it will likely be at the Allentown show.

Gotta think about it. I usually don't bring games that I'm not intending to sell, so it might be for sale.

Damn! Too far away!

Seems like "Top Card", "Cross Town" and "Sing Along" are popping up everywhere lately!

Williams "Smart Set". A game you don't see very often and maybe that's a good thing! Another hideous backglass! I don't think I've ever actually seen that game let alone played it. Nice paintjob on the cabinet though.

With the "rare" brown cabinet!!!

That's too funny! Would make a nice complete game if you could get both parts.

Grabbed a very decent Williams "Spanish Eyes" thanks to this thread.

Yikes! Read carefully; Great WORKING Condition. That PF is hammered. Oddly, I have one that's just as bad with wear in the same area. I bought it for parts, but then found a much better PF for it.

And, unlike it's cousins "Play Ball" and "Home Run", it has NO pop bumpers! It's called a "novelty" version of those other two games, but I believe there is a way to win one extra ball. I really love the card tray on that game; it's unlike any other on a Gottlieb game.

Really? I've always liked "World Series" and thought it was one of the better baseball themed pinballs. With the three kickout holes and a roto target, it's got a few things to do on it. "Batter Up" is pretty decent too if you like the vari-targets.

I couldn't agree more. That's not a bad original cabinet considering it's age. I'd leave it alone, or do some minor touch-up. Obviously, get the game first. In today's market, $450 is a fair price for that game. We need to save more original cabinets and not just immediately repaint if the original paint is reasonably intact. They're only original once.

Chris, just wondering if you noticed if the coin entry plate had "made for export by Mondial" stamped into it.
Usually the games with the lexan backglasses were export games and had this designation stamped into the coin entry plate. Mondial was based in NJ. Springfield area I think. My brother had a "Cross Town" with a plastic backglass, and still has a "Bank A Ball" which also has a plastic backglass. Both games have the "Mondial" designation. He got both games on Long Island, NY. A little odd because both are replay games and Long Island is part of the add a ball state of NY.

Great looking backglass on that game compared to most others. I could sure use one.

Before we go any farther, let's start a new thread; OT: "What is your favorite roller coaster?". Thanks!

Tough game to find in any condition.

Yup, I saw it. It's pretty dang nice!

What's the mystery?

That one's gone.

I wouldn't do that because I don't really like roller coasters and btw it's too damn cold for ice cream!

And the founder of the brewery/company is David Gottlieb Yuengling!!! Yes, really!

Such a deal!

In celebration of St. Paddy's Day, I painted all my pins green this past weekend!

I hope one of you guys grabbed this game. It's a very good player. One of the best of the usually poor playing "belly bar" games Gottlieb churned out. I've played two of these and it's really a blast to play!
Another really good one is one you don't see very often at all; "Gondolier".

I'd love to find a pre-wedgehead version as pictured on the flyer. They did make some that way.

I'd be on that in a flash if it were in my area!

He listed this a while back on eBay. I like the bumper between the flippers variation. I'm surprised Tim Arnold isn't on this one unless he already has one.

Ouch! What happened to the playfield in the flipper area?
newjersey.craigslist.org link

newyork.craigslist.org link

I went to look at this game this morning thinking it was a steal at $350. Not so. Pretty tired all around. Backglass had major flaking in all the reds and was faded too. No paper packet, and it wasn't working right either. $150 game tops.

You really would have to see it. The photos make it look way better than it really is. The not working part is not a big deal to me, but you would think that these later wedgeheads that have been in a home environment for like 30 years would have a good chance of having the paper packet inside. I've been 0 for 2 on that lately.

From the photos, this game looks way better than it actually is; kind of like the "Sweet Hearts" that Chris C went to see a couple of weeks ago in NJ. The photos of that game made it look spectacular, but Chris reported otherwise.
Maybe I'm spoiled because a couple of years ago at the York (PA) show, I bought a cherry "Team One" (I mean this game was ultra clean!) for $550. I only had it for a few minutes because I used it to trade for a Williams woodrail I had my eye on in the flea market. In today's market, games in primo condition sell, while "tired" copies do not. If someone really needed a "Team One", it's pretty easy to find a nice one reasonably priced. This particular one just needed too much for what he was asking. Believe me, I've been doing this for a long time! He told me someone else was coming to look at it tonight, so maybe he sold it. I doubt anyone who knows anything would pay what he was asking after seeing it.

I wasn't going to keep it either. I was thinking about shopping it and flipping it at Allentown, but at that price there was just no money in it. For $150, I'd take it, clean it up, get it working right and give it to my nephew or something.

I got a "Palisades" for the "Team One". The guy wanted like $800 for it, so I made out great on that deal. That "Team One" was primo too! Couldn't believe the guy let it go for $550, and I just beat out someone else who was ready to grab it. At first the guy with the woodrail didn't want to trade for anything, then I convinced him to come and look at the "TO". Once he started walking over to my van, I knew he would do the trade. The game was that nice!
If the "Team One" I looked at today had a reasonably good backglass, it would have been worth $250 or so, but the glass was really bad on it. I just can't look at a game with a poor backglass and a new one just wouldn't be worth it.

Oh, yeah, nice "CT"! A little new metal and it's real sharp!

Really, wow! I kinda dig the outback boomerang theme. I would have been on that in a second considering the condition of the game. It's still listed, so maybe it's still there.
The $150 "Target Alpha" in the same general area of the state is gone though. It was disguised behind a Brunswick "Aspen". Both games for $150!

Just called. Nah, it's gone! Nice game for that price.

You youngsters! I'm getting toward the point where I might be getting my last woodie!
Kidding aside, never saw or played this one. Grab it if it's reasonable.

Timing is everything. I was up in that area about a month and a half ago. Didn't spend too much time there as a blizzard was allegedly coming that way. Was home again the same afternoon. Someone should have a reasonably good backglass for that game.

You're doing this just to piss me off, aren't ya!

Silly!

I've owned two over the years, and a "Lucky Ace". One, I got in midtown Manhattan for free. Gonna write a story about that experience! Love the gameplay on those, but all of mine are gone now.

Here's a deal! Stuck "0" key?
hudsonvalley.craigslist.org link

Manuel is the guy who maintains and fixes the game. He's included in the deal. Now that's a bargain!

And, he will keep all your shrubbery pruned as well!

Now now!

Just clicked the link, but it's gone. What were they asking for the "Harbor Lites"? Pretty damn nice shape!

A guy from Portugal who I used to email occasionally won an eBay auction for a "Harbor Lites" many years ago. The game was located in Connecticut. He asked me if I could do him a favor and pick it up for him and store it until he had his "agent" get it from me to containerize it and send it to Portugal. I did, and had it in my garage for several weeks. FInally he had his guy contact me, but he wanted to come over that afternoon and get it. I told him that I was getting ready for work, and that no one would be home and I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving the game outside for him to get it. Anyway, we worked out a plan where I was to meet him at a shopping mall in NJ near where I was working. The only problem was that I only had my Nissan 200SX to get it there. That's when I discovered that yes indeed you could fit a woodrail in a small two door car! I subsequently discovered that if you got creative enough, you could even fit a wedgehead in that car. Transporting a "Diamond Jack" that way cost me a windshield, but hey, I got it home!

He's firm on the price, but in that condition it's not worth nearly that much. Maybe $650-700 tops, especially if he has to get it out of there.

Sometimes that's how it is with pins. The more you want a title, the harder it is to find. "Ice Revue" isn't a terrible tough one to come by unless of course you really want one. Same with "Sing Along". Several years ago all my collector friends, including myself and my brother were all craving a Gottlieb "Melody". They seemed to be very tough to come by and always seemed to elude us whenever we got a lead on one. Eventually they came around and everyone who wanted one, got one. I've owned three since then, but have just one now. It seems from time to time, certain titles "come out of the woodwork". Lately, to me anyway, that game is "Target Alpha". They're popping up everywhere! Go figure.

"Ice Show" is definitely a different experience. I like them both. If you know anyone who wants a pretty nice one, my brother has one for sale. He's in the Poughkeepsie, NY area not too far from PBR.

The only two SS games I own then would fall into this category. I have a SS "JP" as well, and a SS "Mata Hari".
Both are games I fondly remember playing, so I had to get them. The first "MH" I ever saw (on location, brand spankin' new) was an EM version. The reason I know this is that they also had a SS "Night Rider" which is the first SS game I ever saw. Other than the one at the Silverball Museum, I never saw an EM "Joker Poker" on location.

That's a one-ball bingo type gambling machine. An acquired taste for sure.

Look at the play meter. Just about to flip to 80,000!

That game is easily worth $100. They would probably take $50. I'd grab it if it were local to me.

Did you get it?

HUH? Turned down a free pinball machine after driving three hours because he couldn't get the bleepin' tilt light to come on! Was this guy a crackhead or something?
You should have gotten it for free too then.

This story is eerily similar to a "Dealer's Choice" I got for free in midtown Manhattan. There was no key for the backbox. As he was looking for a big screwdriver, I pulled out my keyring and tried all the small keys I had. The key to my truck's cap fit perfectly and opened the lock as if it was made for it!

I too brought the game down a narrow, winding flight of steps on a hand truck, one step at a time. That game is really heavy too. I made some nice gouges in the plaster of the stairwell in the process. The guy said, "ah, don't worry about it"! It was about 100 degrees out that day too, and I was totally spent after pushing the game about a block and a half on the handtruck after wrestling it down the stairwell. It was all I could do to muster the strength to lift the head up onto the tailgate and slide it into the bed. As I recall, the cabinet on that game was just about perfect. I sold it and I believe the guy that bought it still has it in his collection.

After a while, they just throw in the towel and give up. You could always use the "I could be hanging out in the bars" line.

Goes hand in hand.

Yeah, really. My brother bought a video camera like when they first came out. He was asking the salesguy if it had this or it had that. The saleman said in typical salesmanese, "it's got everything it comes with".

But that's the rare "Capt. America" version. A steal at that price!

This manufacturer is not listed on IPDB. It does look like a copy of "HTD"/"Neptune", et al.

OK, I stand corrected. I may be heading down that way tomorrow and I contacted the seller about possibly stopping by to take a look at the game. I'll report back if it does happen.

If I get to see it tomorrow and it has nudity, I'm buying it!

And I had a chance to buy an NOS playfield for that game once. It was in the original cardboard carton and everything. For some reason, I didn't pull the trigger but someone else behind me did.

quote< I may be heading down that way tomorrow and I contacted the seller about possibly stopping by to take a look at the game. I'll report back if it does happen.>

The guy never phoned me and I'm back home already so I didn't get to see that oddball Italian version of "Neptune".
Hey Chris, I was down your way. I passed by the Collingswood Diner. How far is this game from you? I noticed the ad was pulled. I wonder who got it.

I wanted to check the name of the town, but the ad is gone. Yeah, I saw that driving range. I guess they don't recover a large percentage of the balls! I'm going to scan a map and see if something jogs the memory. I know it was two words. I was really hoping the guy was going to call me while I was down that way, but he never did. I'm glad I got home though and outran most of the heavy rain.

I just scanned over a map of the area. I'm 99% sure the name of the town is RIdley Park (PA). It's just a bit west of the Philadelphia International Airport. You're a lot closer than I am, but it's a moot point. Someone must have grabbed that game.

This one's in my neck o' the woods. I think I know who owns it. She called me for service once, and a jukebox she had, but for some reason I never made it there.

I've always had a crazy idea of mounting skates on an "Ice Revue" and getting it out on a frozen lake. I'd video myself playing it while sliding along the ice, with Jethro Tull's "Skating Away" playing in the background! I'm gonna do it someday (in the winter, of course). If the ice was just right, it probably wouldn't need skates. I'd put a car battery and an inverter inside the cabinet to make it portable.

How did you know? I'm the guy who always brings the quarter pound "hebes" to the Allentown and York shows. They're the best! Didn't know you could get them on the left coast. I'm really looking forward to cooking them up in a couple of weeks. Gotta get the jumbo buns for them too. Chris, be sure to stop by for one.

Nathan's are too salty. Hebrew Nats are the best. We have Thumanns too which are pretty good. A guy in NJ gets his dogs from a butcher and he brings them to the shows. Two other guys from upstate NY bring their own local "coney dogs". The W Va guys bring the grill and brats. It's sausage heaven at the two PA shows! Damn, my mouth is watering!

They put bay leaves in the water. I should know. The last time I had one, the bay leaf was in the bun. Good thing I didn't eat it. They can perforate your stomach or intestines if you eat them.

Yeah, I like Sabretts too. What ever happened to "House O' Weenies" dogs? They were once popular, but have disappeared.
(PS- we're getting way off topic here; sorry for being a party to this.)

The purported birthplace of the hamburger is Louis Lunch in New Haven, Connecticut. The patties are flame grilled vertically in the original1800's vintage cast iron gas fired grills. They are served on toasted white bread; no buns. Ketchup is strictly forbidden!

Cabinet is a nice original; YAH!

Hmm, the ink must have flaked off on three of the chicks tops!

It looked like a worthy project. Similar to the one I have, but I think yours had a nicer cabinet.

With 3" flippers no less! They could be original. I've heard that some "Pop A Card", "Drop A Card", and now apparently "Card King" games were made with 3" flippers. I believe it was the last Gottlieb with short flippers.
Other than that, "Card King" is the same as "Pop A Card", except there is no 1-10 along the bottom edge of the backglass. For "Pop A Card", the pop bumper caps should have gold lettering on them. Don't know if these are correct for "Card King" or not.

It's possible that the flippers were retro fitted, but I had heard that some were made from the factory with 3" flippers. During the manufacturing of these games, Gottlieb had already produced games with 3" flippers. All subsequently produced models would have them.

One you don't see every day for sure.

Think of the "real estate" it would be taking up that could be used for a much better game. If I bought an "El Toro" for $50, it would sit on the front porch with a tarp on it until someone offered me at least $55 for it!

Yeah, that's the "good" "El Toro". The ugly one is a Bally game.

There ya go Chris! Not too too far away. Get 'boil' to paint it, and it'll be nice!

^^^ Hot game lately. I'm sure someone will jump on it. ^^^

Yeah, "Jive Time"/"Rock n Roll" are yet another in a long line of fugly Williams games that are actually pretty good players. Agreed that "Granada" and "Spanish Eyes" are way better looking than those two.

Welcome back brother! You missed one hell of a gathering last night in Sparta. My "Golden Arrow" has a nice new home. It's awesome!

Yeah, who got it? C'mon Chris it's right there! I hope you grabbed it.

Not too good if he knows anything, but one can hope. That's a smokin' deal!

I've never seen one with normal score reels, nor heard of an alternate version. My guess is that someone just didn't like the "digital" looking ones and simply replaced them with normal reels. I've had a notion to do this on my "Neptune", but I've grown accustomed to original ones.

She gone.

What a flick!

Way too much for that game in that condition. The backglass looks roached.

That looks like a nice P/B for a decent price. I don't know if I've ever seen one like that before.