That's a pretty big chunk of art missing in the lower right corner of the Hot Shot Backglass. That often indicates a lot of it may be about to fall off in large chunks (not always). Still looks like it might make a good upgrade game for someone with an all around thrashed one (or none at all).

Good price for a parts game. Problem is, no one needs the parts..........

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Hope the guy has that missing #10 insert. Buccaneer is actually a pretty fun Spin-and-spot game. And its very rewarding to shoot the special lanes. Not sure how different Ship ahoy is as an add a ball?

Wow! Cheapest Wedge head I have ever seen. And probably one of the most desirable ones too. Is that a rat's nest in between the flippers?

Not a bad player but some don't find the layout to be very fun. Just a good simple fun layout for beginner players.

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Ugg! Me Caveman!

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=475&picno=11623

Never saw the Sing Along BG listed but he Listed the Playfield and it went really fast with a $175 Buy it now.

Obviously, far less love for Sing Along than for Kings and Queens!

Better than many. Not sure if he tried cleaning it already:

ebay.com link: Gottlieb Sing Along Pinball Machine Playfield

People have been paying him some crazy money for his hardware lots when he parts a machine. So, I guess he will keep doing it.

Too bad.

At that price, it would make a good starter EM for someone wanting to get their feet wet on EMs. Someone buy it before Mikeincali gets it and parts it out!!!!

As long as the Cabinet isn't in bad shape, its should be a good buy (wonder what the "ton of parts" is?). Easy flip at Captains Auction for $500 or more.

I would say a base game (rough condition) would set you back $400-$800. Depending on the level of restoration, that could cost you another 3 grand from some (even more at times). So, to some the $1900 might be a bit steep, but for someone looking for a good condition game that's been gone through and has a cabinet repaint (God that baby blue is ugly!!!) then it might be just about right.

Cool! Complete with Signed playfield!

Shuffle bowlers are just too easy for the most part. Of course, in the Bar setting, you had both friendly gambling as well as drunkenness to add to the fun. Flash Bowling is probably the best game (at least to me) since it adds timing to the accuracy part which is pretty darn easy after a while.

A long ball bowler will always challenge you as long as you aren't one to heave the ball down the lane. If you are accurate enough, a fast ball will typically stay on course. But a normal roll can actually roam off course if not properly released.

Ball Bowlers are fun but they do eat a lot of space. They are also crowd pleasers and will usually keep the attention of guest hands down over pinballs. But resist the temptation to buy a shortened one to fit the room as you will find they are far too easy to play and master (but loved by the younger players).

It was also used in the movie Rollercoaster as well as seen in Wally World (National Lampoon's Vacation).

Nothing beats you up more than "Flashback" did. Glad its gone. Of course, a few rides on Coney Island's Cyclone will knock your filling loose.

Beer flavored Ice Cream??

The titles seem to be "average" in my opinion. Game like Swinger, Funfest, Gulf Stream, Big Indian, Eight Ball, Pro Football, 2X Sky Kings, 2X Space Mission, Surfers, 300, Jet Spin, CC Hollywood, Rancho.

Most of those games are $300-$600 fully shopped. A few command a bit more if in really good shape. Based only on the value of the machines, If you were to take the whole lot at once, I would say no more than $200 per complete machine. But that's +$6000 which may be excessive for the whole lot unless you have means to store and restore them. Even though it adds up to less per machine, I would think a $5000 offer to take the whole lot would be attractive to the seller to just be done with it all in one transaction. But I still don't know if that is a good $5000 investment on the buyer's part? Others can chime in here.

Not sure if NM is the same but any machines we ever got out of AZ typically had perfect backglasses due to the Dry environment. Sad to say but many of these machines might be worth more for just the backglass then the entire game due to need and shipping costs.

But definitely NOT a meal you would eat every day.

Well, that doesn't tell us much.

My favorite quote from the typical Ebay ad: Looks good for its age.

Or redraw them yourself before selling them.

Couldn't find a video of the Archie Bunker / Meat Head scene about Mustard on a Pretzel........ Just about as great as the Sock and a Shoe bit.

Technically, its in my backyard. However, I am up in Tacoma this weekend for the show. Probably a good thing since I would be really tempted at that price.

Even at Costco, the price of Beef has really gone up. And, it is supposed to go up about 7-10% more due to the droughts everywhere.

Yes, most of the stuff this time is from Crater Music in Medford, OR. The "Good" stuff was sent down while Super Auctions, via onlineinternetauctions.com is handling the left overs.

It is interesting to see what a 50+ year operator saved or collected over the years. Must have had a soft spot for those flash slots (what they are calling console slots). The EMs that came in are: Fireball, Captain Fantastic, Grand Prix, Space Mission. There are some early SS too: 2X Playboy, Evel Ken. Stellar Wars. Time Warp, World Cup and others.

Wish I could attend just to see what this stuff goes for.

Unlike other artist, it seemed that Christian Marche could produce distinctly different styles of art. From his "pointy people on 60's Ballys and early 70's Williams and then to do things like Williams Dealer's Choice or Straight Flush and Bally Bow and Arrow, Delta Queen or even Aladdin's Castle. Certainly a versatile and prolific Artist: http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=christian+marche&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick

Any chance it was King of Diamonds? Not drop targets but Drop down cards in the backglass and a revolving Roto unit in the middle. No girl on the left but there is a Bar Tender holding up his arm (with a tray of beers). Not a Riverboat but a Saloon

http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=king+of+diamonds&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick#1372

Based on much of your description, you are describing Gottlieb Showboat at least as far as the lady goes.

There was a 'lady' in the left side of the back glass and I think she filled about 1/4th of the panel.

No, that's not it. Where that man is standing is where the 'lady' was . . . in the same size perspective. She had an arm up in the air, I think.

My brain is stumbling trying to remember, but I THINK there was a steamboat in the center and maybe a man with a cowboy hat playing cards.

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2130&picno=2020

Well, nobody's perfect!

I was never a fan of that funky roll over feature in the center. I agree that it is way over priced even for Calif. I would pass if you haven't been specifically looking for one.

I am not a fan of "Bright White" cabinet restorations. They just don't look right to me. Like you said, they certainly look out of place next to other "aged" games. I now use "satin heirloom white". It is clean but not too white, and it is also a satin finish so its not too shinny either.

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1604&picno=26990

Not a lot of love for the game among even wedge head collectors (they would prefer Buckaroo for the 1 through 7 sequence ruleset).

Unless its super duper nice all around, its probably only a $600 game, even here in So Cal.

I would think by now, Mikeincali would have already snatched it up to part it out.

Sad.... 2 Bally Turf Kings gave up their lives to become a work bench?

Someone got real creative on that Formica countertop Lockdown Bar replacement.

That BG is just butt ugly. And People say Spanish Eyes is bad......

Soccer / Super Soccer and 300/ Top Score also use it for mystery score delay.

Actually, looking at the playfield, I think every thing else is the same including how the skill shot special worked. The only difference is the layout and how many Adv. Bonus rollovers/targets exist.

Certainly seems that way although recently, I have been seeing Sheriff pop up more than in the past.

Additionally, being in and from Southern Calfornia, it seems there were mostly the 2 Player Lawman out here. Both when I was playing it as a kid, and during the collecting years too. I wonder if the Distributor ordered a semi trailer of all Lawmans?

But another thing I have noticed through all my years of watching Ebay (prior to craiglist existing), certain titles seem to have their "season" when they start popping up for sale in quantity when prior, they seemed scarce. As if its a fairly consistent time line from when games found their way into homes for family entertainment, and then the kids have all grown up, moved out, no one plays it any more and the Parents (or even the now-grown-kids) finally decide to sell it off.

A while back, it seemed to be Fast Draw/Quick Draw. More recently, it seems to be Abra Ca Dabra.

Both of my games are (were) in better than average "original" condition, no hot coils, no high tap. Just properly working flippers, and a good coat of wax. And, in playing a decent example of Jack in the Box, and a very good example of Pin up at a recent show, I can say I had the same exact experience as on my own games.

Its always interesting that same titles of games can play completely differently. I found this out back in the day when there were Jungles and Wild Lifes in just about every arcade I went to. None played alike.

There is obviously a great variance in how the upper flippers can be set on King Pin. Mine are set like this which I believe to be factory and also how they appear on the flyer. And often require ricochet shots off the side rebounds or double flipper hits to directly hit a target. Or, an assist from the lower flipper to the upper.

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1374&picno=42974

But, if they were set like this, I would expect the DTs would be far to easy to hit.

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1374&picno=38405

If anyone here gets it, please take a good high res. photo and submit it to IPDB.

I actually think the proto looks better than the Go-Go Girls playing cards.

I recently sold one at Auction with a repainted playfield, VERY faded Backglass, nice cabinet, hammer-tone gray painted legs and coin door and chutes, but fully functional. It sold for $500 so with tax and tip, that was $615 out the door.

I let it go due to all the flaws indicated above and I had owned it for going on 20 years. It was at the in-laws house for most of that time and the Kids tended to love the game. I kind of miss it since as a Kid, I probably logged more games on Jungles and Wild Lifes than any other game in my life (well, other than 8 Ball Deluxe!).

So, if your friend's is in better shape (many are except for the backglass flaking), I would say $400 to $800. But it would have to be pretty damn perfect to get $800 as there is little love for the Gott. Jungles out there. Its kind of like Jubilee/Darling as to popularity.

Probably about $100-$200 too high on each one maybe even more. But that gives the seller some wiggle room for dealing.

The Groovy appears to have an excellent backglass so that can bring up the value. Argosy doesn't show up all that often but I have never played one so I don't know if its worth pursuing.

French Toast please.......

Better yet, 2 eggs over easy. Hash browns, well done. Sour dough Toast with butter. And a nice slab of ham.

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Okay, I named my Son Micah. I would never have named him Festus (although he was much better at that role than Chester Good). I like the fact that he showed up a number of times in different roles on Gunsmoke before he landed the part of Deputy.

Have you ever met someone named Festus?

I like the line up feature of the backglass and the unusual free ball kicking out from between the flippers. How can you go wrong with 5 Digit Scoring and a Beam-O-Meter!!!

Big Ben is a good source for:

Lock Down Bar, Coin Door assy, Score Motor, Drop Targets, Odd Jet Bumper Caps.

Otherwise, there is not much value in one as a whole.

Pretty Backglass but oh!, what a Toad of a game.

I think one of the problems that WMS had in the 70s was the fact that Steve Kordek could rarely get past the need to always design a symmetrical playfield. It may have worked for him in the early years but at some point, you have to change things up a bit. However, I do like Honey/Superstar and Triple action from that era. But, it seemed that Norm Clark did a better job of thinking outside the box at Williams. For Steve, he finally hit it really big with Space Mission which was only a few games in that he did not go purely symmetrical in layout. Obviously, the guys at Gottlieb also did more than their fair share of Symmetrical designs but they usually followed them up with much better rules to compensate for it.

Interesting to see that during that period, it was only Steve and Norm doing the design work at WMS.

I actually like what Williams did with single player games during the early to mid 70s. They are often overlooked by the must-have-Gottlieb collectors. But, I see that almost all of them I really like, were Norm Clark Designs.

For some of us, the 2" flipper WMS games of the 60's are just not good enough to justify hunting them down. One I know that stands out for me is Seven Up. Not sure why I like it but always find it fun whenever one appears at a show. Of course, I think I like Magic City too but that just may be from the memories of it sitting forever in the tiny burger joint across from the local drive in theater.

This is what I remember finding on route around 73 and later. Not necessarily listed based on when they appeared on route.

Champ, Air Aces - loved them both.

Galahad - What can I say? It was there, we played it. Not much of a game. I think it being slower than the other two games at this location made us "learn" on it.

Op Pop Pop - Interestingly weird. It was one of two games at the Roller Rink so we played it.

Sky Rocket, Expressway, Firecracker, 4 Million BC - All got my attention at a dime a play. 4 million probably wins out as best.

Sky Kings - Same layout as Champ, much better artwork. Love them both.

Amigo - love the artwork. Simple game play, attracted me back to it at the time.

Ditto for Flip Flop. Bottom drains are a bit of a tease. Requires fresh rubber and good nudging skills.

Delta Queen - Replaced a Crescendo. Definite improvement. Art is so so. Game play was fun.

Space Time/Time Zone - seemed to be everywhere and we played it. Can't stand the game any longer.

Ro Go - interesting layout using a lot of Space Time or Monte Carlo. Fun to risk the turn around look for 5000/5 Adv and special when its lit. After all, its right there in your face, How can you miss???

Fireball - I have heard it is a good game?

Odds and Evens / Monte Carlo - Both great games and art. Monte wins out for better rule set. Which is odd that the single player is less attractive in that way.

Old Chicago - Absolutely love it.

Bow and Arrow - Great Game!

Wizard and Capt. Fantastic. Yes, we played them a lot. Probably a tad overrated these days. Certainly true for Capt. Fan.

Hocus Pokus, Aladdin's Castle - Both Fun layouts. Great Artwork.

And Later came games like Night Rider and Freedom in EM form. Good offerings but they paled once their SS counterparts began to appear.

As you can see, I had very little exposure to the earlier 60's games where and when I grew up. I'm not sure if it was related to the Los Angeles Pinball law (I did not actually live in the city of LA) or if the locations were just too valuable to let the older games take up space. When I started playing, the oldest games on location around were: Op Pop Pop (69), Galahad (70), Funland (68), Mibs (69), Mini Cycle (70), Crescendo (70), Aquarius (70), 2001 (71), Hayburners II (68), Gridiron (Pitch and Bat - 69), Straight Flush (70), Jive Time (70), Doodle Bug (71) Klondike (71).

Other than the wonderful backglass art, one of the best features of Flying Carpet is the GI lamp animation tied into the Score motor. So..... that's not saying much for the game play!

I agree with Stashboy. As I recall, it also sucks to shoot the 4 lower targets as they direct the ball to the side drains. It just wasn't as fun as I remember it being in my yute.

Hard to tell from those CL photos. It "Could" be in the ball park for value depending on condition. It also "Could" be in need of a lot of love and new parts which might make the asking price a bit high. But, if its in your neck of the woods, and a title you are really looking for, it would be worth a look. After all, what's a few hundred dollars one way or the other? Based on what the photos show, I would say more like $800. But an in-person inspection could make it a $500 game too.

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