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Some like it hot! The official 1964 Williams Heat Wave Club!


By EM-PINMAN

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

This title is gaining a lot of popularity lately so its time has come to recognize this great game. Shay is currently making a reproduction backglass for it and Pinball Rescue has playfield plastics in the works to be made as well. I even talked to Wade Krauss about possibly doing a reproduction playfield down the road which sparked his interest.

This thread is for folks who want one, have one, or have had one and you can talk about anything relating to this game and hopefully post lots of pictures.

Living in Texas makes this theme a must IMO with its great artwork, mechanical backglass, and great gameplay/ruleset.

I currently own a project one that I intend to get a new Shay backglass for, luckily my playfield plastics and pop bumper caps are in great shape. The playfield itself is in great shape and I plan to clear it and have the cabinet repainted as well. Keep in mind that these pictures are how I bought the machine, so I have not cleaned the playfield yet or done anything to it for that matter.

OK, here we go, I'll start first........................

#2 2 years ago

What we have two clubs now?! How popular can we get?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/heat-wave-club-blow-your-top

#3 2 years ago

My playfield is in nice shape! Just a few flipper wear spots that have been painted over. Backglass would be welcome.

I have experimented with making a new thermometer, but my spring steel at 0.005" was too thick. Need to go 0.003" or even 0.002", I'll get back to that project sometime soon.

What I could use is a new "Sun" drop target, I wonder if anyone's is in good enough shape to get the original artwork.

#4 2 years ago

Ha!

Didn't see that one.

Apparently it is a "very" popular title now.

#5 2 years ago

Where do you see that Pinball Rescue is making plastics for it? It's a Williams game, and they have no plastics for sale for Williams games.

#6 2 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Where do you see that Pinball Rescue is making plastics for it? It's a Williams game, and they have no plastics for sale for Williams games.

http://www.pinballrescue.net/Playfield_Plastics_Schedule.html

#7 2 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

What I could use is a new "Sun" drop target, I wonder if anyone's is in good enough shape to get the original artwork.

Interesting is that I have a different style target face on mine but it looks original. I wonder if the early and later production models had different target faces?

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#8 2 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Interesting is that I have a different style target face on mine but it looks original. I wonder if the early and later production models had different target faces?

This is just a substitute drop target someone used to replace the one that probably broke on your game at one time. It was used on a few Williams games... such as Teacher's Pet, Merry Widow and Eager Beaver.

Original should be the sun face.

#9 2 years ago

Interesting. I wouldn't count on it ever going into production, though. Too bad.

#10 2 years ago

Found a pretty good image of the original drop target here:

http://s96.photobucket.com/user/elcapitansammy/library/heat%20wave/

Let's see if anyone has a drop target with the missing artwork to fill in the blanks so to speak.

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Where do you see that Pinball Rescue is making plastics for it? It's a Williams game, and they have no plastics for sale for Williams games.

I think they have the plastics for Klondike for sale.

http://www.pinballrescue.net/Plastics_Klondike.html

#12 2 years ago

I have a Heat Wave that came with a broken backglass. Thanks to pinballprowess I now have a perfect reproduction done who knows when, by who knows who. But it is very nice! Thank you sir!

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from monsonb:

I think they have the plastics for Klondike for sale.
http://www.pinballrescue.net/Plastics_Klondike.html

Yes, they have Jungle available too. They seem to have Williams plastics in stock and some in production. I think there was an exclusion. They can produce stuff that doesn't say Williams on it or something?

#14 2 years ago

It does talk about ceasing sales of "Bally/Williams Trademarked" products -- which would not include plastic sets (which perhaps are protected by copyright still but not trademark).

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

They can produce stuff that doesn't say Williams on it or something?

That's what I was hoping. I want their Slot Reel Cover for my Full House project. Mine's pretty rough.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I have a Heat Wave that came with a broken backglass. Thanks to pinballprowess I now have a perfect reproduction done who knows when, by who knows who. But it is very nice! Thank you sir!

Hey... you're welcome, o-din.

Glad I could help out.

And I just 'knew' Marti Sperling did the glass... but that's not the case, as I just talked to Keith Sperling.

So after crossing Wade Krause off the list too, I don't know 'who' did it now. But maybe I'll see Greg Pruitt at one of the shows (hopefully the Alameda show in November) and can ask him, he's the guy that sold it to me at a Pin a Go Go show and was more than likely the one who had the glass done, way back when.

#17 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballprowess:

Hey... you're welcome, o-din.
Glad I could help out.
And I just 'knew' Marti Sperling did the glass... but that's not the case, as I just talked to Keith Sperling.
So after crossing Wade Krause off the list too, I don't know 'who' did it now. But maybe I'll see Greg Pruitt at one of the shows (hopefully the Alameda show in November) and can ask him, he's the guy that sold it to me at a Pin a Go Go show and was more than likely the one who had the glass done, way back when.

Does it have a black mask on the back side, and it's sandwiched between two pieces of glass? If so, might be Gary Conway.

#18 2 years ago

It's a very nice backglass whoever did it, and I am very happy to have it. I'd bet Steve at Mayfair might have an idea who and when it was done. He seems to know a lot about backglasses.

#19 2 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Does it have a black mask on the back side, and it's sandwiched between two pieces of glass?

No, it is screenprinted directly on the back of the glass just like the original.

I do know Williams re ran several of their vintage glasses in the mid 90s when business was booming, but not sure they did this title or not.

#20 2 years ago

Maybe Ron Webb? I wish he'd keep an archive of the glasses he's done. Once they are sold out they disappear from the list.

#21 2 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Maybe Ron Webb? I wish he'd keep an archive of the glasses he's done. Once they are sold out they disappear from the list.

See, that's the thing... if Ron did the glass, chances are he would have used Marti to do it.

Sure appears to be her work, as it is just amazing looking. Line art, colors... everything.

Wish all the repros looked like this.

Still surprised her or Wade DIDN'T do it.

At any rate, now o-din AND me have nice glasses for a truly great game.

Yaaay!

And will keep fingers crossed that Shay does do this glass, so that 'everyone' that needs it can have one too!!

#22 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I have a Heat Wave that came with a broken backglass. Thanks to pinballprowess I now have a perfect reproduction done who knows when, by who knows who. But it is very nice! Thank you sir!

I want pics !

#23 2 years ago
Quoted from gutz:

I want pics !

Maybe when I get home from work. Yes, I do work if you could call it that.

#24 2 years ago

Just sent an email to see if Lee at Pinball Rescue would be interested in doing a Drop Target Decal for this title.

Stay tuned.

#25 2 years ago

Some like it hot!

What a great fun film!

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#26 2 years ago

One of my favorite games. Definitely be interested in a back glass as mine is pretty flaky in the red lettering. One of the things I love the most about my game is that a previous owner took a playfield plastic to a Chicago show a number of years back and Steve Kordek signed it!

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While not original, I've always thought the "angry sun" image from the back glass would make a cool drop target decal!

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#27 2 years ago
Quoted from heatwave:

and Steve Kordek signed it

OMG! Totes Jelly as the kids today might say (Totally jealous.)
I am such a Steve Kordek fanboy. I have four of his, and I could really use a whole bunch more. Heat Wave included.

#28 2 years ago

Heat Wave seems to be one of those iconic games from the 60s that makes you feel a little bit lucky when you acquire one. And I'll admit I got very excited when I finally secured one for myself.

Everybody that comes over wants to play it. Over and over again.

It never gets old. At least the playfield doesn't, as it has that top quality top coat Williams was using in that era. The backglasses are another story as they can fade, peel, and have many past touchups . Or as is the case with mine, all of the above and a broken off corner to boot. But no more!

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#29 2 years ago

Lee and Gordon at Pinball Rescue are Awesome as usual.

Here is a reply from my email I sent Lee regarding making the Heat Wave Decal for the Drop Target:

"Good to hear from you and I am sure we can do something there leave it
with me for a couple of weeks."

Problem Solved!

Thanks to DR_NYBBLE for the lead to the "sun" pictures I sent them as well.

As a side note the Heat Wave Plastics are still in the Que for reproduction.

It's all good in the hood.............

Ken

#30 2 years ago

Probably one of the best games Williams has ever made. Top five anyway. Just a great package all around.
I had one of each of the backbox variations, but sold one of them.

#31 2 years ago

The drop target image is in a couple of the WMS parts catalogs. It looks hand drawn, so it may be a little inaccurate, but it's about as good as it gets. http://www.planetarypinball.com/reference/partsmanuals/WMS_Parts_1966/index.html#/43/zoomed#/43/zoomed

Jim

3 weeks later
#32 2 years ago

While not an official member of the club, I had the opportunity to repaint the cabinet of Drano's Heat Wave. This game had been repainted at one point in its 50-plus year life. Designs were added to the coin door area, silver spatter was used instead of the original black webbing, and, to top it off, it was shellacked. It had yellowed with age and gave the game a sickly, nicotine-stained look. Gel stripper made relatively fast work of the shellac and non-factory paint. From what I could see of the original finish, the game looked like it needed that first re-paint job. Drano shared the info that two different coulor schemes were used for the backbox face. He chose to stick with what was originally on the repainted machine, and I was able to confirm that the original paint underneath in fact matched what was repainted. I think the webbing dictates whether or not the game looks good...and I've taken the best advice I could find on Pinside and RGP to try and perfect my technique. I'm proud of how this one turned out!

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#33 2 years ago

Just finished the restore on my Heat Wave Playfield tonight. Last thing I had to do was to install the 7 White Playfield Inserts. Just need to fire it up tomorrow and work out the mechanical gremlins as I have never turned it on since I bought it over a year ago and it has now been fully gone through. Pretty happy with how it turned out, not perfect, but super nice IMO. New Shay Backglass installed so all it really needs now is the Cabinet painted.

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#34 2 years ago

Can anyone take a good picture/scan of your Heat Wave "replay/point adjustment jack/plug wire color chart" in the back of the Head? Mine is missing and need to create another one.

TIA.

Ken

#35 2 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Can anyone take a good picture/scan of your Heat Wave "replay/point adjustment jack/plug wire color chart" in the back of the Head? Mine is missing and need to create another one.
TIA.
Ken

One of these is a scan but couldn't scan the entire thing due to where the label is placed. The other is a pretty head-on photo. Between the two I think you can make a good reproduction.
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#36 2 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

The other is a pretty head-on photo. Between the two I think you can make a good reproduction.

Thanks dr_nybble, that should work just fine with the pic. My Heat Wave will be 100% by tomorrow once i get the replay score card and jacks set. Just finishing up yet another repaint of the temperature tape as I needed the red line to extend another 1/4 inch.

Game plays very fast with just a regular rebuild of flippers and pop bumpers.

Ken

#37 2 years ago

What kind of paint did you use for the tape?

I am finally getting spring steel shipped to recreate the tape.

If you need anything else for the replay card let me know.

#38 2 years ago

I used RUST-OLEUM "Gloss Cherry" Item #248568 available at Home Depot. Almost a perfect match in color.

So was your tape destroyed?

The tape on mine is fine but the paint keeps wanting to crack off in places even though I sanded. cleaned, and primed. Thinking if it does not hold to use a cherry nylon ribbon tape like you would use to wrap a gift, would most likely work great and just glue it to the metal tape, no more paint cracking when the tape bends. Most likely it should be good for a while so I will consider it maybe next time if the paint cracks off.

Just created a new Replay Card tonight from Card Stock, easy peesy, and I changed the scores to my liking of difficulty 2600, 3200, 3800, and 4200. If that gets too easy i'll change them again.

Ken

#39 2 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

The other is a pretty head-on photo.

I'm a bit confused with the color of the wires verses the jacks. Is your Heat Wave this way? THe chart only lists blue, red, green, yellow, and brown wires, and mine has various coloration's. see pic

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#40 2 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

I used RUST-OLEUM "Gloss Cherry" Item #248568 available at Home Depot. Almost a perfect match in color.
So was your tape destroyed?
The tape on mine is fine but the paint keeps wanting to crack off in places even though I sanded. cleaned, and primed. Thinking if it does not hold to use a cherry nylon ribbon tape like you would use to wrap a gift, would most likely work great and just glue it to the metal tape, no more paint cracking when the tape bends. Most likely it should be good for a while so I will consider it maybe next time if the paint cracks off.
Just created a new Replay Card tonight from Card Stock, easy peesy, and I changed the scores to my liking of difficulty 2600, 3200, 3800, and 4200. If that gets too easy i'll change them again.
Ken

I had to redo the temperature tape on my Heat Wave not that long ago... and the two items that work well for this particular application are PLASTI DIP by Performix... or FLEXiDIP by RUST-OLEUM.

I believe I liked the color match (and texture) of the RUST-OLEUM product the best and ended up using that because it was closest to the original.

These are the products to use because they can handle the constant bending and straightening the tape endures when in use. I have seen no evidence of flaking off or even cracking, at least of the particular one I chose.

#41 2 years ago

Bump for anyone who has a "replay/point adjustment jack/plug wire color chart" that matches the wiring colors in the picture on post #39 for Heat Wave.

The previous picture in post #35 is for a Five (5) wire "replay/point adjustment jack/plug wire color chart". I need the one for a six (6) wire as shown in post #39.

#42 2 years ago

My chart is for six colours, as I mentioned the scanner could not get the top of the chart due to the bezel.
I think some of the plugs have another wire daisy-chained off it. You can always do trial & error to see which is which!

My wires are faded worse than yours, I don't have anything that still looks blue.

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#43 2 years ago

Thanks again dr_nybble,

The full scan definitely helps. You look to have the same colored wires as me and that chart does not really clarify the plug wire colors at all. Not sure what Williams was thinking on this one but it is going to be a challenge to get the replay scores right, as you said, trial and error.

#44 2 years ago

Finally after some trial and error I figured out how to set the replay scores correctly that dr_nybble thankfully supplied. Williams did Not set this up intuitively. Williams should have just used the basic solid wire colors as they had done in previous years.

Just a note for folks trying to figure out how to set the plug jacks for the point score adjustment:

1) Only the end tail wires are the true colors to go by, so the last wire on the 2nd jack.

2) The end wires with the most (solid) color are the correct ones to go by, do not pay attention to the stripes on the wires as they mean absolutely nothing.

2 weeks later
#45 1 year ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Lee and Gordon at Pinball Rescue are Awesome as usual.
Here is a reply from my email I sent Lee regarding making the Heat Wave Decal for the Drop Target:
"Good to hear from you and I am sure we can do something there leave it
with me for a couple of weeks."
Problem Solved!
Thanks to DR_NYBBLE for the lead to the "sun" pictures I sent them as well.
As a side note the Heat Wave Plastics are still in the Que for reproduction.
It's all good in the hood.............
Ken

Any update on this? I checked the site this morning and nothing listed.

Gary

#46 1 year ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Any update on this? I checked the site this morning and nothing listed.
Gary

Just sent Lee a reminder of this as I was not on top of this as I got out of the hospital over 10 weeks ago from open heart surgery, so I apologize for not being able to follow up on this in a timely matter. I'll let you guys know when hear back from Lee at Pinball Rescue about the Heat Wave Target Decal.

#47 1 year ago

Got word back from Lee today at Pinball Rescue, here is what he had to say;

"I will have a look into that tomorrow (Target Decal) as we have done a special run of plastics for
Heat Wave but due to low demand we have not screen printed them but high
digital direct printing and they will be available in the coming weeks"

I'll post again when I hear back from Lee.

1 month later
#50 1 year ago

Tough game but the dynamics make it interesting to play.

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