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Sodering iron


By Gunnut40

9 months ago



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    #1 9 months ago

    I am looking for a good setup to do some board work. Something that you use with shaky hands and around 500 dollars. Any advice would help.

    #2 9 months ago
    Quoted from Gunnut40:

    I am looking for a good setup to do some board work. Something that you use with shaky hands and around 500 dollars. Any advice would help.

    Seriously. If you have shaky hands, spend your $500 hiring someone else to do your board work.

    If you were just kidding, look into some Hakko stuff. We just started with some of the top of the line multi-port Hakko stuff last year. We have forever been using Pace products. The price on those tips have gone up, and with our extremely high daily usage I wanted to give Hakko a try. Very happy with the performance and those tips seem to last much longer.

    #3 9 months ago

    I totally agree with wayout440. Suggest looking at the Hakko FX-100.
    https://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fx100.html

    #4 9 months ago

    What's up Gunnut? Met you with Who-Dey at Pincinnati this year. Two of the best threads on here about tools and technique that will help you are: Best Soldering irons, and Terry B's guide to soldering. Can't go wrong with either.

    Quoted from wayout440:

    Seriously. If you have shaky hands, spend your $500 hiring someone else to do your board work.

    This could be very good advice if you shake a lot, extra hand holders will only help the hand not holding the iron. Chris Hibler does good board work and also Marks Pinball which is somewhat local for you.

    See you next year at Pincinnati???

    #5 9 months ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    What's up Gunnut? Met you with Who-Dey at Pincinnati this year. Two of the best threads on here about tools and technique that will help you are: Best Soldering irons, and Terry B's guide to soldering. Can't go wrong with either.

    This could be very good advice if you shake a lot, extra hand holders will only help the hand not holding the iron. Chris Hibler does good board work and also Marks Pinball which is somewhat local for you.
    See you next year at Pincinnati???

    What's up man! I will for sure be at pincinnati! I need to get some payback for who-dey kicking my ass last year. See you at the show!

    #6 9 months ago

    My hands only shake a little bit. Thanks for all the advice.

    #7 9 months ago

    I bought one of these setups off ebay over 5 years ago and it works great. I've put several hundred hours on it with no issues.
    ebay.com link » 2in1 Smd Soldering Rework Station Esd Iron Welder Gun Hot Air Gun 5 Nozzles

    #8 9 months ago

    One piece of equipment you don't want to skimp on is your de-soldering gun buy a hakko.

    #9 9 months ago
    Quoted from mario_1_up:

    One piece of equipment you don't want to skimp on is your de-soldering gun buy a hakko.

    I don't disagree, but the Hakko price was a bit much for me, given I don't use it every day. Went with the BlackJack from CircuitSpecialists.com and I'm thoroughly impressed. Probably a 1000 joints cleanly desoldered and going strong. Never used the included iron since I have some Wellers. I think it was on sale closer to $100ish when I bought it. I should add I've soldered for likely 35 years, so no learning curve on my end.

    https://www.circuitspecialists.com/blackjack-solderwerks-bk3090-suction-gun-soldering-iron-combo.html

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    The OP's original comment about shaky hands - that's a tough issue regardless of the brand. Like your other post Mario, I wondered too if a hot air pencil might help the soldering aspect?
    Maybe something like this with a holder?
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    #10 9 months ago

    It's funny you say that, I do have shakiness, it is greatly lessened with a good magnification inspection light.

    #11 8 months ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    It's funny you say that, I do have shakiness, it is greatly lessened with a good magnification inspection light.

    That sound good do you use a board holder also?

    #12 8 months ago

    I do have one but seldom use it. Panavice? It works fairly well but I would not buy at the MSRP. I got mine super cheap on a close out deal.

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    #13 73 days ago

    Yeah I finally figured out which iron I wanted. I got the FX-951 cause it had everything I wanted. You put this iron in your hand feels like a pencil. This one will sense when temp is getting low and sends more power! The cons are well..you can look them up. I gots me a old man eye ball light also. Time to destroy some boards!

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    #14 73 days ago

    Congrats gunnut40. Hakko makes great stuff. I have their FX-100 induction soldering iron. It’s maybe overkill for Pinball machines, but I use it mainly for assembling audiophile grade amps and preamps.

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    #15 72 days ago

    I dont know anything about them but it looks like a nice one and it looks expensive. Has your wife filed for divorce yet over it?
    Gunnut40

    #16 72 days ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    I dont know anything about them but it looks like a nice one and it looks expensive. Has your wife filed for divorce yet over it?
    Gunnut40

    It’s wasn’t that bad 340 with 5 tips. The old man light was 120. I think cottonm4 recommend it to someone on another thread. My wife just punched me in nuts cassie cage style. I plan on buying a desoldering gun like Mario suggested. I just have to wait till the swelling in my balls to go down.

    #17 72 days ago
    Quoted from Gunnut40:

    It’s wasn’t that bad 340 with 5 tips. The old man light was 120. I think cottonm4 recommend it to someone on another thread. My wife just punched me in nuts cassie cage style. I plan on buying a desoldering gun like Mario suggested. I just have to wait till the swelling in my balls to go down.

    Lol....that's pretty funny!

    #18 72 days ago
    Quoted from Toucanf16:

    Congrats gunnut40. Hakko makes great stuff. I have their FX-100 induction soldering iron. It’s maybe overkill for Pinball machines, but I use it mainly for assembling audiophile grade amps and preamps.
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    Thanks dude. Yeah mine is overkill for sure. I can’t blame the iron if I mess up on a board now.

    #19 72 days ago

    For years, I used the Weller WLC100. Recently bought the Hakko FX888 and wish I had made that move a long time ago. The Hakko makes the Weller look like junk.

    amazon.com link »

    #20 72 days ago

    You cannot do a fair comparison between an WLC100 to FX888.
    For a fair comparison - you need to compare the WESD51 or WE1010NA to the FX888.
    But even those two Wellers cost far less than the FX888.

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    #21 40 days ago

    The TS100 is the best soldering iron I have ever used. There are various sellers. Just get one that has the tips you want (or all the tips).
    amazon.com link »

    #22 40 days ago

    I’m still using
    My Walmart $10 bastard.

    Ol’ trusty.

    #23 40 days ago
    Quoted from xamindar:

    The TS100 is the best soldering iron I have ever used. There are various sellers. Just get one that has the tips you want (or all the tips).
    amazon.com link »

    Yeah, the TS100 is pretty darn amazing for what it is. There is open-source firmware that add a few features (like low-temp mode if you put it down for a bit), and loads of people seem to run it off 18v tool batteries. I haven't gotten around to that kind of setup, but it would make soldering in the field even easier.

    #24 40 days ago
    Quoted from xamindar:

    The TS100 is the best soldering iron I have ever used. There are various sellers. Just get one that has the tips you want (or all the tips).
    amazon.com link »

    It sure looks convenient. Must be nice to operate cordless. How many solders will it make? How long to recharge? Do you need more than one.

    #25 40 days ago
    Quoted from Toucanf16:

    It sure looks convenient. Must be nice to operate cordless. How many solders will it make? How long to recharge? Do you need more than one.

    It's not cordless, it uses a wall wart power adapter. But lots of people also use it with batteries so they can repair their RC planes in the field, etc. The battery you use would determine what you ask. But the default use is with a 12-24v wall plug.

    #26 40 days ago

    While you guys are talking soldering irons...

    How do you get solder to stick to things? I have repaired quite a few things but my technique must be off. It ususally takes 2 or 3 tries to get a wire to stick to a solenoid when I do it.

    Any tips?

    #27 39 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    While you guys are talking soldering irons...
    How do you get solder to stick to things? I have repaired quite a few things but my technique must be off. It usually takes 2 or 3 tries to get a wire to stick to a solenoid when I do it.
    Any tips?

    First you need to have a decent mechanical connection as well. Make sure to wrap the wire around the coil lug first. That will help. If you can for whatever reason, you can use alligator clips to hold a wire onto the lug so its in place while you solder it. Just try to keep the metal alligator clip away from lug when soldering. It'll displace heat and you don't want IT soldered on as well.

    But go with the former idea first.

    #28 39 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    How do you get solder to stick to things?

    Flux...... That's the whole point of the stuff.

    Also, you need to get the items you are soldering hot enough, so a good clean iron helps with that. Solder wont stick to any cold surfaces.

    #29 39 days ago
    Quoted from xamindar:

    Flux...... That's the whole point of the stuff.
    Also, you need to get the items you are soldering hot enough, so a good clean iron helps with that. Solder wont stick to any cold surfaces.

    Been solderin stuff in my pins 2 years now... Never heard of this. Is this the right stuff?

    amazon.com link »

    Also looking at amazon, does anybody use any of the clips to hold things? Any recommendations?

    #30 39 days ago

    Looks like the stuff. I'll let someone else recommend a good brand. (I, myself have been using the same container of flux I bought like 20 years ago from Frys, and it kinda sucks because it conducts).

    #31 39 days ago

    Flux is an amazing thing, but it is not a panacia of success (and can make a huge mess if not used sparingly). To use it correctly, the wire must be clean and shiny visibly, and the coil lugs or pins should be cleaned before attempting this. Wire tends to oxidize in old machines, even under the vinyl jacket. This oxidizes the copper strands and will make a poor connection unless you clean fully and use flux and a good amount of heat. The issue with soldering is it is very hard to tell the success of the connection just by seeing things 'stick' together. So many poor joints cause problems, either day-1 or day-100. Cold solder joints look good but cause resistance, and things that draw lots of current hate resistance in the flow. Poorly soldered wiring that sticks one day-1 can also unstick on day-100 due to vibration. If all is good, you will see the solder 'flow' across wire and lugs or pins and the solder will stay fairly shiny after it has cooled.

    Suggestion: Practice a bit. Flux is pretty amazing, but it doesn't solve core soldering technique issues.

    #32 39 days ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    While you guys are talking soldering irons...
    How do you get solder to stick to things? I have repaired quite a few things but my technique must be off. It ususally takes 2 or 3 tries to get a wire to stick to a solenoid when I do it.
    Any tips?

    There’s a lot of good info here:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/terrybs-soldering-guide-part-1

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