Quoted from benheck:

It is possible that the unique nature of our moon greatly helped with life on Earth. Still, the universe is too vast for that to not have happened, statistically, elsewhere.

Quoted from kvan99:

That Tic Tac UFO could be a bug or other foreign material inside the lens of the optical equipment....again grainy videos don't make the case for Aliens. People please....use your own judgement...do your really think there are green little men flying around in saucers? If the proof is questionable or inconclusive that alone tells you something.....7.5 billion people on the planet and about 3 billion of them have smart phones yet nothing except a BW video from 2004 is all is needed to be a true believer....doesn't anything about the scale of things I said register? No life detected all around us for at least a 100 yrs of space travel is not proof but a drop of dew in front of the lens is a show stopper? Lol...oh Geez, ok you guys roll with that.

Quoted from kvan99:

And by that you mean we've never had eyewitnesses claiming they saw aliens or were abducted that turned out to be bogus?
Both pilots did not say it was aliens only that it was "something" and better than our airplanes.

Quoted from John_I:

On the other hand we are not being visited.

Quoted from kvan99:

See there is difference, the difference is you "think" or you "Feel" that's not proof....none of you have solid proof of aliens, yet there is ample scientific data that is dismissed (SETI) in favor of what some pilot thought he saw on his radar. Besides why jump to conclusions and call UFOs alien visitors? It could be one of the many secret project the military is working on. Science is beautiful thing.....facts are even prettier, but in short supply in this forum....I mean now you're discussing ghosts?

Quoted from kvan99:

But here you are saying " I have no clue", " I have no proof" multiple times yet making arguments for the alien hypothesis. Which is it? Is secret military tech or aliens?. To reply with "They've seen it with their own eyes" is not enough, what did they see? No one knows.... There are over 100,000 flights a day over the US alone, so the fact you only got a few UFO sightings is itself pretty hard to ignore. Also, one minor correction the article I posted clearly shows one of the pilot say he did not see it with his own eyes.....optical equipment only.

Quoted from kvan99:

If you and the rest of the believers listen...not to me but to the experts in this field, they're the ones telling it's not plausible. I roll with the evidence, I say grainy video and eyewitnesses don't make for good proof!
You sound like you might be open to believing the experts, right? Here's what experts in the field have to say about it:
1. Fermi's Paradox.....a classic argument, still valid, This theory made me realize how wrong I was.....I was certain life exists elsewhere and then he put the scale of things in perspective
2. SETI Real scientists, real wanna be believers no dice! https://www.seti.org/search-space-aliens-comes-empty-extraterrestrial-life-could-still-be-out-there
3. MOP and SETI https://www.livescience.com/65745-extraterrestrial-intelligence-has-not-phoned-home.html
4. Elon Musk weighs in....this guy loves space and aliens....and he's in our camp!
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374167754404630528?s=20
Life is vey unique phenomenon in the universe, even if it happens elsewhere the tech and the distances involved for first contact makes it very, very, very, very unlikely. Even Avi Loeb the Harvard Astronomer who called Omuamua an alien visitor says that the chance of finding alien life is very unlikely

Quoted from kvan99:

I do "believe" the pilots did see some object...yes, but it's likely explainable. I posted a DARPA glider than can do Mach 20....an F-15 or F-16 can do about Mach 3 to 3.5....min weapons and with afterburners. A missile typically does Mach 6 to 8. This thing can easily do twice that, so I'm sure they saw something. It's also good to note that they made the sighting in restricted military airspace around VA beach.

Quoted from kvan99:

That part is still debatable....again no solid proof.
https://phys.org/news/2011-08-darpa-video-htv-hypersonic-glider.html

Quoted from JMcDonald:

My Hypothesis: We're worth their time. First, if they've managed to evolve intellectually beyond our current state they likely do put value on intelligent life (even one so far behind their own intellect) and would not want to see us destroy such a valuable commodity (a rocky planet capable of sustaining life). So I propose they would have a need or a desire for a symbiotic relationship with us. First, they need us to maintain this planet as habitable so they can visit when need be. Second, I'm willing to bet Earth wouldn't be just an endpoint for them. It's likely just a rest stop to them traveling to even further solar systems. Perhaps they may need facilities here to work on their "ships". Repairs or otherwise. They likely wouldn't be able to transport mass quantities of certain materials and machinery needed and if they could just tell us "we need a sheet of titanium cut into these dimensions of this thickness" or "create us a facility of this size with these specifications" (lame examples, I know) and we could in turn provide that for some know-how and technological advances from them.

Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

Well clicking that McClandish link was quite a rabbit hole. Good lord!
To summarize this article: Recent Tic-Tac UAPs are US Military classified above Top Secret. We back-engineered it from captured alien craft in the 60s. Stored in underground facilities with vast sophisticated tunnel systems. Then the USG invented teleportation & time travel in the 70s. They went to the future & saw Earth as a lifeless charred cinder, the result of an alien invasion. So the USG began an Earth defense project in the 70s to prepare for the invasion. We sent humans back in time 65 million years to a lush planet Mars, to prepare weapon technology for the defense, ready to bring them back to the future on invasion day. These humans eventually developed telekinesis & multi-dimensional travel in their UAPs. These overlapping dimensions result in ghost sightings. The USG continues this program today, and performs abductions on its citizens. Government agents teleported to North Korea in 1990s & gave Kin Jong Il a heart attack. The USG has a time bridge building that goes to the year 1600. There are portal guard aliens in Miami wearing human biosuits.......on & on.
This McClandish guy has it ALL FIGURED OUT huh? Haha. Too bad he's dead.
All Bob Lazar said was that he worked on UFOs and experimented with Element-115. I'll buy that.... but not the insanity mentioned above.

Quoted from JMcDonald:

If a higher intelligence developed FTL why would they have to be from a point of origin close to us? Presumably, if you can achieve FTL distance and time become less relevant, no?.

Quoted from razorsedge:

I'd say all humans are intelligent.

Quoted from Vyzer2:

I read that many (who saw it first hand) believed it to be a large plastic bag.

Quoted from phil-lee:

Beginning to doubt the Classic "ET".
Look closely at the Planets/ Comets/Moons we have photographed.
No Trees, Weeds, Grass/ Kiss my ass..
Sorry about that,working on a Song. Anyway, there is nothing growing.
No Lichen Moss, nothing. Just another rock outpost, hot or cold.
Why?
There should be SOMETHING crawling around or infesting flora/fauna.
Organisms have been found on Earth in the hottest/coldest environments.
In this most perfect Spacial environment for life there should be leftovers,maybe Mars, Venus, or Saturn as well as the Moon.
Maybe primitive crawly things or bio-sludge. Nothing, just rocks and dust.

Quoted from pinzrfun:

Ricky Gervais is an atheist, and when he appears on The Late Show w Stephen Colbert, who is a devout Catholic, they like to banter back and forth about whether or not there is a God, heaven, etc.
Ricky said this to him once - "Let's say you were to erase all of mankind's history today. A thousand years from now, we'd pretty much be right back where we are. Electricity would be discovered again, metallurgy, medicines, the sciences - it would all be the same. Everything except religion."
And Stephen was quiet for a few seconds, and said ".....I don't have an answer to that........"

Quoted from DCP:

But the truth is that the government does not have any idea what the UFOs are.

Quoted from fuseholder:

Someone just sent me this link today. I’m not certain if this was posted already. If so…

Quoted from RonSS:

I haven't watched the video yet, but im pretty certain other countries wouldn't give a damn about patents to create a FTL saucer et al. Or other civilization changing device.

Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Money, and human Mindset that seems to "Need" the supernatural, or the Conspiracy view have driven it to new
highs in the media.

Quoted from Vyzer2:

When will humans accept the changes that will happen?

Quoted from Yipykya:

The Debrief: Inside the World’s Most Exclusive (and Strange) Anti-Gravity Club.
https://thedebrief.org/inside-the-worlds-most-exclusive-and-strange-anti-gravity-club/
https://www.altpropulsion.com/
https://www.altpropulsion.com/events/apec-9-11-jack-sarfatti-uap-warp-drive/

Quoted from JMcDonald:

Interesting!
https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/30/lockheed-martin-skunk-works-chief-skunk-jeff-babione-national-defence-air/?fbclid=IwAR0FLNcrzUmlD3PfLjugRSNb82p3L3AY6tWc4PbcOT2IVHS88AHfxqvVHu4

Quoted from benheck:

Why would beings who can travel across galaxies/dimensions gives a flying toss about a big bomb?

Quoted from phil-lee:

Its obvious they are not organic since they defy all scientific Laws.

Quoted from Julius:

The ones referred to as ancient aliens are absolutely the fallen angels trying to set themselves up as gods.

Quoted from phil-lee:

They hope to destroy the conversation, like a child interrupting their Parents, because they feed off attention.

Quoted from JMcDonald:

New video. Very legit from doorbell camera.

Quoted from RonSS:

How much history and "science " has been kept from us?

Quoted from Azmodeus:

Contrails of some sort spotted over Alaska.
https://www.bradenton.com/news/nation-world/national/article260230970.html
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Quoted from Azmodeus:

But it sure does show something…

Quoted from Azmodeus:

I did not follow streiber after this, but he had apparently had more strange encounters of one type or another. And wrote about them. But I think by this time I had come to think his true story communion was not exactly true at all. Anyone else read streiber?

Quoted from JimB:

Assuming they are 'good' that would make perfect sense. You would hope if we make it that far into the future our species would turn out 'good' also and do the same if we were to find life elsewhere.

Quoted from thekiyote:

If an alien species was TOO cooperation focused, they probably would never reach the point where they could work on how to develop space travel, they would have been picked off well before they got to that point. It'd be like trying to make friends with a hungry tiger, it's not going to work and you're going to end up eaten.

Quoted from Azmodeus:

Perry Farrell mentions crop circles at Woodstock. I think I was under the impression that crop circles were debunked. Maybe not the case.

Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

if any of this is true, how will this change things with our justice system?

Quoted from embryonjohn:

What does it say about alien technology that they fly through space at light speed, shoot in and out of black holes, apparently need no fuel and literally bend the fuck outta time and space…only to accidentally crash in some shitty desert in Nevada.
C’mon man…

Quoted from PinFever:

What if I was to tell you UFO’s are actually coming from the outer space of earth . Meaning beyond the 60th parallel.
60 degrees south of the earths equatorial plane! Which it is why you me and anyone not govt can not go.
Countries at war all agreed to make that law . Conspiracy! I think not .

Quoted from PinFever:

Pictures or it didn’t happen!