It's because you started a thread attacking another individual as opposed to using PM to contact a mod.

Just curious. How do you know you got two ban votes?

Grow up and move on. No need to start another thread about this nonsense.

Sorry to hear that, AkumaZeto. Your contributions to this site are many and appreciated.

Not sure what's up with the mods. The minute people like you start getting banned is the beginning of the end of this community, IMHO. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

I think you should just realize this is Pinside and nobody from the real world gives a shit !!

I don't normally chime in on things like this but I hate bigoted morons. I don't think akumas original thread wasn't meant to "attack" a fellow pinsider but to call out something he noticed as being wrong after contacting mods. If I remember the original thread it wasn't an attack by him other than calling him a racist which isn't false.

No need for ban votes.

I'm not sure starting this thread is gonna help matters.

I have one that is bigger than a 310 .

Classic !

Nothing like punishing a whistle blower!

No

It seems obvious to me that some of the mods here are taking this "personal attack" thing too far, and are interpreting that term very broadly. Too broadly, as shown in this thread.

Seriously, I'm curious. I've looked it up on Pinside and can't find the answer. Do you get notified via email?

This should calm everyone down

It's already gone this far I guess they aren't watching right now.

I remember that Robin has made it clear that ALL ban votes from Mods are supposed to come with a pm/email telling you exactly which post earned you the vote and what the violation was. It would be hard to correct ones ways if you are not told how you offended.

I agree that Ben does not deserve any ban votes on this issue and mods should probably take a step back from the cliff and reevaluate Ben's thread. He was bringing to the attention of the mods that there was a member spouting VERY offensive and racist comments publicly (it appears that member has currently gotten a 1 week suspension). I did not read his thread as being a personal attack so much as a call to the attention of the mods.

Hmmmm... Now you're losing me.

The guy was a toolbag, a homophobe, a braggart, and quasi racist, but I didn't read anything from him indicating he was violent. He didn't make threats or use racial slurs.

Granted, I'm not defending him. If it was up to me, the perma ban hammer would have been used on him. Still, no one's going to anyone's home to beat anyone up. I agree that you shouldn't have gotten the ban votes and I voted accordingly on your poll.

I don't think this thread will end well.

sorry akuma... maybe if i hadn't responded to his first post he just would have gone away...

Exactly.

And the fact that the member in question (WISE_GUY) was actually banned confirms what Ben was saying was correct.

Think about if every issue you had was turned into a public thread. Especially when it comes to calling someone out. It's a terrible way to manage a site. You've gotta use proper channels. I'm guessing no mods even saw his racist crap prior to your thread, they're not super powered beings who see all posts. Someone needs to give them a heads up.

I happen to agree with you 100% about the disgusting comments you were calling out. I'd throw a guest out of my home for spouting off like that, and IMHO it doesn't belong on Pinside.

That said, there are proper ways to deal with it, and a public thread is probably the least helpful. You jam the mods into a hard place when you do that.

I have a ban vote myself, and I didn't get an essay about it, but I know what it was for. Agree or disagree I'm abiding by it. Moderating is a thankless job, I have a ton of experience with it, and you're not really helping yourself here. I say this as someone on your side with the base issue too.

I think the hypothetical is what gets you in trouble.

I agree with you, wise guy and his point of view has no place in a pinball forum. I said so in the original thread when I called him xenophobic. But I think instead of creating a whole thread about him, finding and showing photos of his address (I know this was not you) only fuels his fire and makes things worse. The classy thing to do is tell him without personal attack that he is a racist and his point of view is not welcome, and the either put him on ignore or pm a moderator and let them know.

Face it, we are not going to change anyone's mind on an internet forum about race relations, religion, government, etc. Its fine to voice your opinion and tell them how reprehensible they are but keeping it classy will always make you look like the better person.

Problem Jim?

Nothing against you AkumaZeto but your thread was only stirring shit. No need for it here on Pinside. That kind of stuff was exactly why I left RGP.

Pappy

Is there an easy way for mods to audit thumbs down and try to use that as a "red flag" to help weed out idiots? Obviously not all people getting thumbs down deserve a ban, but when someone has a bunch of em, they might need to be moderated.

This site needs some serious work in the moderator department. Has for a while

just curious>> do ban votes expire over time?

I don't think your allowed to use all capital letters on your post.
I got in trouble over that. Better edit post title.

Something seriously needs to be done about policy around here. Either change the ban system or refresh the mods.

wow! So get 3 votes and you get a 1 week suspension, but ban votes stay for 2 months? seems it would push many to just try for the third ban vote I would think?

Time out. Everyone go play pinball now.
Hug someone you love and if possible.give your spouse,partner a pickle tickle. We will all feel better.

Let me clarify something, the information I posted was based on data from the picture wise_guy posted of "his" house. I used the data from the picture to locate "his" house on google maps (something any tech could do) and it does appear to be the same house. But he insinuated he took the picture last night when the picture was taken 8 months ago. Draw your own conclusions from that data.

Second point is if you want to be an internet "tough guy" and spout racist comments and hate anonymously you're fair game for being identified. Wise_guy deserves no protection from spreading hatred. I personally don't think it is his house and probably should have posted that in the original thread. I would have this morning but it was locked.

There's a loophole in the system right there ... good spot.

Hey! Where'd you get the pic of the breezeway at my house? That shot is 6 months old and the floor has since been replaced with teakwood, I've also added a few more pinballs too.

Should I be ashamed that I noticed the machine isn't plugged in and she's operating the flipper buttons with her pinkies? That's sad that my brain even had a chance to see that.

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Or Gofers

What machine?

I would be stunned if this thread didn't get locked as well. I'm not saying it deserves it, I'm just saying I think it will accompany your third vacation vote.