Here's my recent dilemma with LED's. And I'm glad this thread was started. I am 50/50 with Led. Sometimes they're awful and sometimes they're desperately needed. When I did my LOTR I wanted to keep the warm feel and give it my own look. I think LOTR is done well, but for some reason I just feel the mode/palantir/destroy ring shouldn't be white. Especially with the fellowship right below. It's also very hard to enjoy the lighting playing in the daytime. I felt orange/yellow would be the right angle. Unless my order was messed up CT orange and yellow are the exact same color. At least with frosted bulbs (I didn;t want my game too bright). I also wanted to make the game "good vs evil) red towards the right upper area and green towards the shire. It was almost working. No matter which way I go with LED's or incandescent bulbs it's either monotonous or a friggen bag of skittles. I think warm white is definitely the way to go in situations like this but I have a box of cool white bulbs and I don't want to spend $50 on another "test".

On the other side of the story. When I did WPT it made me feel like I didn't even play the game before. It's not only an improvement but seemed necessary. I think we should start a LED swap thread so we can trade colors and types when our "experiments" go wrong. Anyone want cool super brights for warm .

Basically in a newb type fo way I am finding out through experience that I agree exactly with what Frax said. On my STTNG there's white frosted cool bulbs in the GI and they pop into your peripheral and take away from the game.

There are a few areas where the plastics are high where the subway delivers the ball to the cannons and it peeks through the open space. I do agree, maybe the plastics on the machine I'm babysitting are not installed the best. The more I try the more I agree about leaving LOTR factory. I just mostly play in the daytime. Maybe it's time for better shades/curtains.

I have a few of the 2-led premiums that have the flat-topped caps. They almost sit flush with the PF I think that's probably better than the frosted.

Can we stop and just admit it. It's just plain old fun putting in bulbs. No matter how long you have a machine you want to make it your own. Then you want to switch it back to see if you like it better. After a while you stop. After some time goes by you feel like you neglected the your bulb addiction.... rinse and repeat!

In a nutshell they both have pros and cons and it's a personal choice as to what's better. The real debate imho is if ghosting and strobing make the game harder. If the game becomes harder and more distracting that could be a good or a bad thing. If I have a game a long time adding more distracting lights could make it more challenging again and give you a new rush with your old machine! anyway....... recovering from Sandy..... Trying to keep busy and I'm pissed the clocks turned back!

Again, not a business man and still a newb. You're right. If you can get the list of the bulbs through e-mail from coin taker then a convenience fee is pointless. I guess it's make the extra money where you can and in this economy I don't blame them.

I guess you'll have to re-read it a few times. Maybe it'll come to you eventually "master".

I was agreeing with you. If you were looking for a better explanation just ask. I found your post passive aggressive. If I was wrong it happens every day. No reason to put me on ignore.

It's all good Frax. I was just stating that I was a newb (4 years playing and almost a year learning the details about how pins work) and not educated in business. Meaning that I could be wrong but wanted to contribute to the conversation. I was also trying to show you respect since you have obviously earned some.

Like I said I agree with your post. Maybe being without power for almost a week and having many people around me still without power for potentially 2 more weeks(according to cbs radio) might have made me trigger happy. Things are rough here and I wanted to talk to take my mind off Sandy. I wasn't expecting that kind of reply. If I WAS trigger happy then I apologize. If not these misunderstandings happen every day on the internet. I hope that we can get back on topic, especially since we agree on our points. If I saw a "Cheers" smiley I'd put one here

I bought my first pin less than 2 months ago but my brother has been an addict. I just played when I made visits. heh. Glad we could work it out!

Here's a quick video (sorry for shaking... iPhone) of extra color changers that I didn't like on my game. Obviously I would never purchase just for this use but when you pay $4 a bulb you want to use them.

I have some random stuff if you want to trade individuals to test. 555 color changers (slow) 44 supers 2 led premiums .... 1 blue frosted 2 LED etc....

Cool!