Man, some of you WoZ guys are tolerant as hell... good for you though! I certainly am glad I stayed away from this WoZ debacle? (No too strong...) WoZ mess? (Yeah, that's better.)

How many here wish they would have kept their money in their pocket and stayed away and just waited to get their WoZ when they become available? I'm sure most won't admit that. I mean plenty here complain about Stern yet tolerate this? And don't kid yourself, your not saving any money. A $6500 WoZ over two years ago is the same as buying a $7500 WoZ today. And for many it will be a big disappointment. The hype will be hard (impossible?) to live up to at this point.

It looks like it will be going into 2014 for some of you... hope you guys love it!

Some will love it for sure. Some will force themselves to love it and the others will admit the whole thing was a mistake and move on without WoZ.

Which one will you be?

Hopefully JJP takes a lesson from Stern and starts making their future LE's with different artwork or at least something really unique... Standards can be made into LE's too easily.

If a pin ends up being a winner then most will always prefer the LE but with WoZ there just isn't much reason... yes, the true collectors will always desire the LE more but when you can take a Standard and make it 99% into an LE easily and pretty inexpensively that's just not good. JJP needs to do better next time IMO.

Your prices for the extras seem high here... and you say 1000 is 'limited run'? Better topper? Okay and signed apron? Darn...

Just saying hopefully JJP takes a lesson from Stern... they can both help each other make pins great in the future.

No problem dude... I understand! Your a WoZ head through and through. I'm pretty sure it could get delivered to you in 2021 on fire and you would still love it... LOL, its all good. Your going to love it so no worries for you...

You got something right for once Big Hurl...

Its possible but from day one I never liked the theme. I just thought since they were making 1000 and endless Standards I could be patient and wait. Play it when the code is complete and decide. I know they will always be available so no reason to buy now... I really doubt I will own one. I've played it several times and respect the quality but most everything else is rather blah to me.

naw, scalper/opportunist/profiteer... much more satisfying.

ABSOLUTELY!! To me and I think to a lot of people the different artwork is huge! Especially when its so much better looking than the others. Its the one thing that would be really hard, costly and time consuming to ever duplicate. It really separates the two more than anything. And the collectors gobble that up! Tron could have really been special with this difference... It would have helped WoZ dramatically as well but right now there are too many other things to worry about regarding WoZ...

No one should be worried about WoZ because of what I say. Its all pretty much personal opinion and the way I'm looking at things, that's all. MoPLE is great but has its own issues that we are hoping will get worked out. It has its positives but the negatives are there as well. Its the same with all pins. Hopefully they all get worked out and everyone is happy in the end but it never happens that way...

Why is it always about money with you? Love pinball for the hobby like me not the money!

Its had a two year head start!

Loser? Wow, sensitive are we? Can't take the good with the bad? Please tell me what I said that was so horrible? What did I say that made you cry?

Please give examples? Bashing? Example please... your outta control! You complain about bashing as you bash! LOL... never bashed anything if you pay attention.

Like I said, your definitely not paying attention but you sure know how to personally attack someone, thanks! You can't give any specifics of bashing like I thought. You totally missed my multiple posts regarding WoZ's quality, look and feel being unmatched. My comments regarding theme, number produced, etc. are my opinion and personal experience...

Because its WoZ... WoZ is a touchy subject. The WoZ heads are here to protect and serve JJP! They will bash Stern, will bash the Stern flippers that sell for a profit, will bash Stern quality, they bash Stern for incomplete code, etc, etc, etc... but when it comes to WoZ there are no rules. You can flip them for nice profit... all good. They always have an excuse for the issues regarding WoZ. Incomplete code? ... gotta be a good excuse for that one. It goes on and on and on. If your a WoZ head you'll do anything!

WOW, another Hobbit update... It has 3 pop bumpers! Where do I send my money!

Can we do a poll? Which is worse: kissing the mods a** or kissing Jack's?

sure, we can add that to the poll!

any pics? never hurts ask I hope...

Do you have to be a CEO to know this stuff?

I guess I better leave now, I only make $8.49 an hour...

All you have to do is look at who actually gave the thumbs up and you'll understand...