Edit: I am purposely leaving out my impressions of the game and put that into a separate thread here: http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-woz-experience-first-impressions-and-lighting

Yep, it's just as the topic says. Local distributor has them sitting in stock. Simply went in and bought them. I paid $7100, no shipping for standard edition. Game is now sitting in my gameroom, second game is being traded for a pretty cool deal.

The local distributor, whom I would rather not name at this point, says he called up and wanted to be a distributor. A couple weeks ago, he ordered 10 and the first 5 arrived Monday. 5 more are due in a few couple weeks. When I heard all this, I assumed it must be a lie. I mean certainly JJP would fulfill the pending orders from those (including me) that paid 2-3 years ago and have been waiting for our game, right? Edit: turns out the local distributor actually ordered LE models day 1 so was in front of the line and asked to swap some of his LE for regular versions. There was no line jumping here. I got lucky

Pictures or it didn't happen, right?

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Note: I don't have any inside information into the internal workings at JJP. My statements above are my personal interpretations of the events based on what I was told (hearsay) and the fact that I have my game(s).

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I didnt want to clutter up the two threads, so I started one on just my impressions of the game and the other on the crappy way I was able to get my game. The other thread is here: http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-woz-experience-first-impressions-and-lighting

If you go look at the previous thread, I even said "the distributor claims" and admitted I considered that he may be lying. However, in my mind, it does not excuse the fact that Jack stopped building 5 LE's that were paid for in 2010/2011 and instead built 5 regulars to ship to this guy to sell.

If only 10 customers of 1500 outstanding preorders demand a refund because of this along with several hobbit cancelations, then yea it was a poor business decision to boot. I canceled my hobbit preorder today due to this

Already at the powder coating shop. If I'm lucky the parts will be done by Friday

Very interesting take. I have no evidence that this wasn't the case. All I can tell you is, many of us paid for WoZ years ago, yet I was able to walk up and buy a couple yesterday "in stock".

My powder job won't be the same as on the LE, or probably even as good. The LE is definitely a better deal price wise. If I buy invisiglass ($300), powder coat ($200), shaker motor ($250?), I'll be in for $7850 at that point and still won't have the better topper, signed apron, or limited run. But I didnt care about any of that. I just wanted the game now since it was available.

Sorry. I went to sleep. Just getting caught up.

Jack, thank you so much for coming into this thread and clarifying what happened. It's not upsetting that a distributor that bought and paid for a bunch of LE models on day 1 was put in line first. It makes sense that he then just swapped his order for 10 LE. I heard the story second hand that he called a few weeks ago and just became a distributor. That's the big difference here. And thats what was so upsetting. I got lucky to get my woz. It's a great product so far. Ill edit my original post to show the new data I have learned. I'm going to withdraw my hobbit cancelation and pay up current today.

I'm not a news reporter and this isn't a news site. This is a public forum. People vent all day. I stated in my original post as well as in the other threads that I was reporting what people "said" and that much of it may not be true. But receiving the game seemed to back the facts I was given at the time.

It's actually good that jack had to address this. It clarified why standard editions are getting out. A lot of people thought there was line jumping going on for it (based on the number of PM I received). If it weren't for this post, we wouldn't have learned the truth.

I'll tell you about it when I see you next

You're welcome to come play it

So, I did not send my buddy out to pick up a game knowing anything. I don't know you. How would I even know that these WoZ exist in town in order to "send my buddy"? The person that sent me those pictures acted alone. He was there because he knows you. I guess that makes him *your* buddy. So, *your* buddy snapped some pictures and sent them to me as proof that these machines were there. How did *your* buddy know to even come there? Because *you* called him and invited him over.

Being that you didn't advertise these, how would I know to call you up and buy one? You were the one that blabbed to these people and let them know you called up and ordered them. You know who these people are. You know what they told me.

And what does it change whether or not I drove there myself to pick up a couple woz machines vs someone else drove there, picked them up, and brought to me? It's just a simple detail that is irrelevant like saying that I put my socks on that morning - irrelevant.

I absolutely did not tell you that I know more than you in my 3.5 years of collecting than you do in 40 years. That's not at all what I told you. You tried to make some ridiculous claim that by having games on route before they are in the hands of collectors, it would find the games bugs faster, and improve the product. I told you that's not at all true because collectors pay close attention to every detail, every rule, and know the game inside and out from a game-play perspective much more than most route operators. Route operators tend to spend their time setting the game up and keeping it running. Not playing it. I pointed out that collectors take every software update, the day it comes out and test it thoroughly where route operators tend to just stick games out on route and leave them be, unupdated.

The best part of this was when I then used an example of a poorly maintained AC/DC Premium out on route that is still running 8 month old software where there is no VIP pass, no color changing inserts implemented, etc. Low and behold, that turned out to be *your* machine and I had no idea when I cited it as an example.

And finally, once more on this. After the fact, I did get your number, and I did call you this morning. I had only one purpose to call you. To apologize if I negatively impacted your business and offer to help to smooth things over. I needed nothing from you and had nothing to gain to offer to help or to call you. I simply wanted to help. See, I never publicized you or anything about you. Sounds like JJP released that information on their forum. Anyway, so I called you. Unfortunately, you were extremely rude on that phone call. A guy calling you asking for nothing but how he can help you, and you're a jerk. Really? Even so, I still left off the conversation saying to let me know if there's anything I can do to help you here.

Finally, you were complaining that "because of my post" you are flooded with phone calls of people wanting to order products. Wow, what a horrible mess that must be for a distributor to all the sudden become known and have people trying to do business with him.

Thank you. I actually forgot about that. But even so, if the vendor did nothing wrong, and I never said he did, then why does he feel the need to come here and write his life story to defend himself? A distributor's job is to order games and sell them to the public. So a distributor ordered some games and sold them - doing his job. Why is he the one defending himself? The only question in this thread was always to JJP.