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So I cut some wires and now I don't know where they go...

By ypurchn

6 years ago



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#1 6 years ago

OK to make a long story short, I was trying to repair a board hack on my BTTF power supply board where the previous owner had removed the molex connector, hard-soldered the wires to the board and shoved in butt splices about 6" from the board. When I was cutting the wires out, I realized that there were a few wires that were the same colors, so I wrapped black tape around 1 of each wire (orange and white). Took my boards to the electronic repair shop and told him to make sure that the wires ended up back in the same spot. I didn't take any pictures of the wires at this point (shame on ME!, after taking 20+ pictures of the wires BEFORE I put on the tape). To make a long story short, 4 weeks later I picked up my boards and I was handed a pile of wires that were not connected to the board. The repair shop had not taken any pictures so I was SOL.

The orange wires tie back into the same connector so those are good.

The white wires come off of connector CN1 (pins 4 and 9) on the power supply board and snake their way down to the 12 pin connector (pins 2 and 3) downstream of the transformer. Coming off one end the transformer 1 wire is white/red and the other end of the transformer is a white/yellow wire and they both become white. Assuming 1 end of the transformer is hot and the other is neutral. I can't find a good description in any DE manual (DE simp, POTO, BTTF, etc) to actually tell me which white/yellow(red) is hot or neutral so I can't fix this.

IMO the easiest thing to do is do a quick continuity check between CN1 pin 4 or 9 and the 12 pin connector downstream of the transformer and check pins 2 and 3. If someone could do this it would be AWESOME. If someone has a better approach, please let me know.

PLEASE HELP!

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#2 6 years ago

Look at your schematic.

#3 6 years ago
Quoted from ypurchn:

The white wires come off of connector CN1 (pins 4 and 9) on the power supply board and snake their way down to the 12 pin connector (pins 2 and 3) downstream of the transformer.

The BttF over here has 2 white wires on pin 1+2 at the 12pin transformer connector, the same as the manual describes.
There is 90Vac across the 2 pins for display power.
They are going to CN1 pin 4+9 on the powersupply board.

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If you have different wiring connection, don't put the power on the machine.

#4 6 years ago
Quoted from dasvis:

Look at your schematic.

Quoted from ypurchn:

I can't find a good description in any DE manual (DE simp, POTO, BTTF, etc) to actually tell me which white/yellow(red) is hot or neutral so I can't fix this.

#5 6 years ago
Quoted from zaza:

The BttF over here has 2 white wires on pin 1+2 at the 12pin transformer connector, the same as the manual describes.
There is 90Vac across the 2 pins for display power.
They are going to CN1 pin 4+9 on the powersupply board.

If you have different wiring connection, don't put the power on the machine.

Thanks zaza. It probably is pins 1 and 2 on mine because I remember thinking it was weird that the male(non standard) was on pin 3.

The issue I’ve run into is I don’t know if pins 1 and 2 run to pin 4 or pin 9 on CN1. Or are you saying it doesn’t matter?

#6 6 years ago
Quoted from ypurchn:

I don’t know if pins 1 and 2 run to pin 4 or pin 9 on CN1.

It doesn't matter. This is a single winding from the transformer.
Here X-former pin1 goes to CN1-9 and is put to GND on PS-board
and X-former pin2 goes to CN1-4 and is rectified.

#7 6 years ago
Quoted from zaza:

It doesn't matter. This is a single winding from the transformer.
Here X-former pin1 goes to CN1-9 and is put to GND on PS-board
and X-former pin2 goes to CN1-4 and is rectified.

Got it! Thanks for the quick help!

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