Not a big deal to me personally on a players level machine. I don't drop quarters into my machines.

I think what he means is "if you replaced the coin mech, it would work fine with quarters. But why do you want to do that?"

I don't know that particular machine, but it's common from that era to not have a "free play" option. Easy work around if you want, so it's not a big deal.

But just to clarify, there should be a "start" button on the front of the machine. If that is missing somehow, you need to see why. But if we are just talking about adding credits to the machine - the lack of a coin mech wouldn't be a make/break decision in my mind.

Well don't mention the fact that gorgar should have a free play option to him! Maybe he doesn't know - You're getting $50 off to get a coin mech

you are correct then.

(for reference, if no free play option - you just open the door, add a bunch of credits to the machine, close the door and hit start. Lots of people will set the "free game replay" level very low so you always win a free game no matter how much you suck. That way, for every game you play, you win a free play and the issue of adding credits becomes moot. There's other ways - like a switch - but that's one way)

So, either the owner doesn't know about the free play option - or the battery is shot and the machine isn't holding it's settings. I guess you'll need to make that determination.

If it's not holding settings in memory, it could be a very easy fix(change the batteries) or it could be the start of something very bad (mpu corrosion).

Hopefully his video will include footage from power up through gameplay. During attract mode, check the high score tables. If they are showing round #'s (like 500,000), I'd suspect battery issues. If they are showing what looks like real scores, most likely the battery memory is working.

or maybe he just doesn't know how to set it to free play. Seems unlikely though.....

In the mean time the seller is reading this entire thread giggling his ass off!

most likely!

Blackbeard, if the coin door is just missing the mechanical inserts to accept and direct coins and you really want one I have a whole coin box full of them and you are welcome to have one. I don't have any use for them and when I sell Pins most people don't want them or the coin boxes so they just start to pile up here. Anyway, just let me know.

bad assumption BB. If there are battery issues, you will not be able to keep the machine in free play mode.

You will be able to go into the settings and put it into free play - but as soon as you turn the machine off, those settings will be lost.

And maybe this is all starting to make sense....when he talks about going into the inside of the coin door and pushing some buttons to get it started.

If he actually has to go inside the door to push some buttons to get the machine to start - it probably means it's booting to audit mode. And this likely means you've got RAM or battery problems.

Try to see a video from power up to game start. The machine should boot directly to attract mode. If it doesn't - I'd be extremely cautious even at $550.

I'd sure check. Battery corrosion is the #1 problem with these early SS pins. It's not something that sometimes happens - it's something that usually happens.

Well, you've got a few things to think about. If he sends you a video, post it up for us to look at.

And just remember, as a seller, "acting dumb" can be a pretty effective sales strategy........

basically the game settings and other stuff that is adjustable using the buttons inside the coin door. Settings for things like free play mode (!), free game levels, difficulty settings, etc. etc.

You access "audit mode" by pushing some buttons inside the door - different things show up on the screen to indicate what setting you are currently tinkering with or reviewing.

So to review, a battery damaged MPU may cause the machine to boot into audit mode instead of attract mode. That would be a bad thing.

Ha! me too. no wonder our economy is in such a mess.

good luck, let us know.

Yeah, it looks like you Gotta Go play It. And after you start the machine, you should be able to close the coin door. There's no reason to leave it open!...right guys?

BB post pics of the button you're pressing for ball release. The group here should be able to help get it running properly.

Do ALL the displays not work properly...or just one? Yeah, let's see some pix!

Sounds like a great 1st pin
now i'm having second thoughts about selling mine
Gorgar Speaks

I'm pretty new as well, but if it's the same problem on all the displays, doesn't that mean it's something else? .......

New Pinscore displays will set you back 2 hundy. If it's a problem with all the displays I'd try reseating all the connectors from the displays to the display board and then the display board to the cpu before dropping any cash.

Sweet sweet Gorgar. Looks awesome.

check that the backglass is all the way in the channel and there's nothing *in* the channel.. which would make the glass sit higher up. Simple things first, right?

If that isn't it, check if the hinge on the door can be adjusted up/down and if so, just move it up.

Glad you snatched it up, what a great find! Do you realize how difficult it is to find a backglass in that type of condition? Cheers to your first machine! I know it's a crash course for you but it's also a stellar start to your collection!

Did anyone notice that Gorgar, a pin with the devil and hellfire, is placed right next to the firewood?

I've played the Future Pinball version of Gorgar, it's a great pin and a great first purchase.
Good Job Blackbeard!

Are you in NC?

I've seen 2 Gorgar's recently on CL that near my area in NC.

That sounds like it was a great deal Blackbeard! Congrats. Even if there is only minor hardware issues to deal with (agree on checking the backglass is in the channel) starting from a known working condition goes along way early on. From here its just maintenance (btw, you can polish too much), troubleshooting what comes up, and upgrading what you want and can afford (bulbs, plastics) - or start hunting for the next.

Glad it worked out for you, it looks real nice. I think you got a good deal.

Good move to get the old batteries out of there. Inspect the holder carefully for any of that blue-green haze. It looks like a nice machine - you don't want the cpu to corrode away. If there is *any* evidence of haze/corrosion, you really should clean it up. It will continue to eat away at the battery holder and other components even though you have replaced the batteries.

The pop bumper light - possibly the associated transistor on the board is shorted closed (assuming it's not just normal lighting function).

Congrats!

congrats on a great pick up...enjoy it.

Yeah! It looks great! The displays look fine. The way they seem to be cut off like that...it looks like you just need to move the glass. You should be good!