Medieval Madness Masterpiece!

Looks like the dream MMR, an SLE, glad it got the MBrLE treatment! I hope everyone can get the upgrades, but wouldn't be surprised by some specific items like a special powdercoat, glass translite, and so on might distinguish it. It would be great if they did the lightning modification at the back.

Good that they raised their game. MBrLE really stood out as the best effort from CGC to date. I've owned all three and while MMr and AFMr I prefer, MBrLE is really something special. So the King will be back on top! But no dragon on the topper! Can't have it all.

How much for the topper? $2k more for the same thing as MBrLE is...interesting.

Shoulda been $8k classic, $8500 special, $9k sle. Disappointing for sure. CGC was leading the way in value and quality.

This is the part where hundreds of us rationalize it's not so bad...remember when MM was $15k? Or in my case, when I bought a couple for $4k...

Agree CGC is exceptional and great they are made at the original factory. No clear pooling, reliable out of the box most of the time. Great support, great products. But $10k is $. Where do I get in line?

Yeah, it's a bit steep.

Agree, $8k, $8.5k, $9k and more units will sell. Volume wins, unless truly limited. I was happy to see the Standard AFMr and MBr reduced in price. That seems healthier for the hobby long term than ever increasing prices.

MBRLE is looking more appealing at these prices, $2k less. And AFMR Standard, at $4k less.

Agree on that for me, although not everyone. I think Brian Eddy prefers AFM. The thing that is most annoying is that the cost to produce MBrLE was likely much higher in research and development, with MMr (King, LE, SLE...whatever it is called) simply building on that. It can't cost much more to produce than MBr. So is the price structure simply based on not pissing off previous LE owners? If so, then give them incentives to make their own SLE for an extra $1k and sell tons of these for $9k. Ok, enough. I love MM in all forms, owned 3 and one remake. But I hope CGC/PPS decides to price them differently.

Well, if it’s unlimited, that makes the HUO prices better down the line. Unless the pricing reduces the demand and volume, as well as profits for CGC.

King edition, then Dragon, Castle, Damsel, Troll, Merlin...$20k by 2030, and $7k HUO! Shoot, I may pass and see what Danesi and Eddy come up with in the near future. Too bad, as I bet there are hundreds of buyers at a better price.

Me too, I was in at $9k.

You’re missing the point here. CGC was leading the way in price and quality, in an era of increasing “irrational exuberance” over pinball machines. The equivalent optioned game was $8k in MBrLE, likely the same cost to produce. I’ve spent more, but on new games with ongoing code and development. I’m a fan of CGC, and expect there are enough people to buy so that it will be a nonissue, but there are amazing games out there for much less.

Ok, you convinced me. Whinging over.

That’s the system, you got it right. It’s a time honored tradition. I may still get one but lean towards a new game or MBrLE. Neil looks like he has the cash to spend, but even rich people like a good deal.

Maybe that’s the secret to how they got their cash!

Sara at PPS texted me that it is $9999 MMR "royal," $8999 special, and $7999 standard. Not sure what shipping adds, I assume a few hundred.

Not sure, I'll give her a call later today. I'd love one but man, that's a pile of cash. If it isn't truly limited, I'll probably just wait for the collector market. Not sure the "color bombing," as TheLaw calls it, works here, would love to see video.

So, get a used MMR and add the options might be a way to go. Or just add the topper and color, skip RGB if over the top. Anyhow, it's nice there are options.

I actually like the smaller color display, looks more like the original. The topper is where I'd put my money, as crazy expensive as it is. Maybe RGB if it looks even close to MBrLE.

Not sure. I'd have thought a new mainboard if the inserts are RGB but if only GI, perhaps it's just the bulbs and software.

$199 if you buy the GI without the topper, $99 GI with the topper, from PPS.

Didn’t get that information, sounds like they are working on it.

I’ve owned 4 starting in 2002. You showed up late to this thread, upset that your MMR is devalued, then became happy because you think it isn’t. Some resistance to increasing prices in the marketplace is good. I personally deserve nothing. When I buy a machine, especially one that isn’t limited and can be produced in the future, it devalues. Yours is worth less because I can buy a new one for the same price. As to being the best game and worth it, well I love MM obviously but don’t agree with you. There are many who prefer AFM or MBR, or newer games.

Well, he who gives (downvotes) shall receive! Look, I get CGC and PPS need to balance the wishes of prior owners with the new ones. This is probably a good solution for both parties to end up at a similar price point. If they had come in $1k less as many wanted, then the only way to keep old owners happy would be huge discounts on the upgrades. So overall, they will lose a few customers but still sell a ton of machines. I hope they return to the previous price structure with the next game.

Rick told me years ago TZ is too complicated and expensive to make, and too many out there. I’m hoping for BBBr!

Did that change since yesterday? I heard differently from PPS.

I'm waiting for the exploding castle topper for $15k. Or the real fire breathing dragon for $20k! Seriously, this looks awesome. I've just owned so many that I'm gonna sit out for now, having just bought a couple of new machines. I'd have been sorely tempted at another price point, but honestly this is the same price I paid years ago for an MMR Standard. It's all good. I wish it had been Standard + RGB $8k, plus $500 Special, + $500 Royal, but to quibble over $1k at the end of the day probably means I don't want it that much. Maybe I'll pick up one later as I think Standard runs will continue as long as there is demand.

MBrLE is the best deal in high end NIB games right now. Just a loaded game, and gorgeous. The RGB is beautifully implemented, the toys upgraded, great topper, excellent sound package, shaker, beautiful engraved plaque on the lockdown bar, mirror blades, perfect powder coat. Unless this MMr is equivalent, MBrLE is the best effort from CGC so far. With the exception of the topper, I'm not seeing the toy upgrades here, such as troll eyes, dragon breath/wing leds, merlin figure with crystal ball, catapult, etc. But these are fun mods to do.