$199 if you buy the GI without the topper, $99 GI with the topper, from PPS.

Any word about when it will be released ?

Didn’t get that information, sounds like they are working on it.

I’m not the original owner of my mmr le does anyone know if am I going to be able to get the discount on the topper and screen upgrade?

Oh that’s interesting.

I was kinda wondering if it was with the XL panel (because of the speaker lights) that would make the difference.

To be fair, they started charging more before AFMR and MBR even existed so it’s less gouging and more a beneficial reduction on later releases.

Probably because they figure they can make way more money this way. Let's say the costs are the same to make the MMR Standard as the other two CEs. They are probably making 80% more profit per unit sold and that might be conservative. Combine this with a strong demand for the title and it starts to make a lot of sense. Sure they'd sell more at 6K, but they'd have to sell almost twice as many to make up the lost profits and that leads to twice as many machines to support, etc. . So as long as they can sell at least half as many at the 8K it seems like a no brainer to me. Especially when they already sold out their last batch with this pricing scheme already.

I'd love to get a MMr standard for 6K. I'm priced out at 8K, but I can't blame them for trying to make the same money for a whole lot less work (and this is assuming they only sell half as many).

It’s been $8k. It’s always been $8k since release. I don’t get why people EXPECTED a price drop. Would it be nice? Sure. But demand is high and they sell them as fast as they make them.

I actually did kinda think MMR would get a “Classic” edition with a price drop myself, lol.

To be honest tho, I’d be thanking CGC for selling MBR and AFMR (although AFM also didn’t sell for MM/MB money) for less (or at least having a cheaper option) rather than blasting them for keeping MMR at its price point. Yeah it’s expensive, but it’s the best.

It’s literally “hooking up a new TV”. Pull cable, pull out old panel. Put in new panel, reattach cable. Easy peasy.

Anyone get details on how to order upgrades? I’d like to get that placed. I’m in on all three.

I hear they are just selling the Royal Edition for now and it will ship in December, so if I had to guess, you won’t be able to get anything else until next year.

Yeah I spoke to Ryan and he confirmed all three. Which is excellent news although installing the GI Kit will be fun!

Really Good news and priced so that original buyers pay the same as the royal edition I think CGC have got this spot on.

Thank you. Will it retro fit with the existing speakers? The other question is will this new panel come with the speaker light kit and new speakers with the panel? That would probably all be enough to get me to pull the trigger.

Do we have details yet on what is required to install the RGB’s? That is the one upgrade I’m primarily considering but would prefer an easy install and not a big project.

I’d love the display and topper as well but already have a the color display & a topper (pictured - a much cheaper but admittedly no where near as cool of one). Can’t really justify the topper but am on the fence if it the display upgrade is worth it...

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There isn’t a discount for original owners on any of the kits. The only discounts are if you already have the color chip and if you are buying the GI and also buying the topper.

Maybe a stupid question. Could I just pull a speaker panel XL from an AFM and slap it into an MM?

Nope!! Won’t work. People have tried it.

Must include a software update. I bet it would work once this update comes out. Would help people sell games later if someone doesn't want to pay a big screen price.

Are those of you that downvoted my post here those that think be cause you bought another CGC remake for less you are now entitled to an MMr at the same price?

MMr is a higher demand game. You'll pay the same prices current owners did and like it...

Tbh I don’t think anyone feels entitled to anything at any price point. Would it have been nice to get one for the lower price? Of course it would of been. I also see why they have kept the price on mmr as is. A lot of people bought them and continued to buy them. Would of been a pretty crappy thing to do to existing customers.

So am I correct in assuming I could in theory buy a MMR on the secondary market and then purchase the XL display and the RGB GI to install?

100% agree which is why I called out a few posters who downvoted me for basically saying the same thing earlier here.

Sounds like it. At a similar price, a NIB with all the upgrade work already done would be nice, though.

It sounds like the royal editions are priced at 10k because that is essentially the cost of buying a now CE model and paying to upgrade everything.

Hopefully will get a feature matrix soon and see exactly what’s included.

I’ve owned 4 starting in 2002. You showed up late to this thread, upset that your MMR is devalued, then became happy because you think it isn’t. Some resistance to increasing prices in the marketplace is good. I personally deserve nothing. When I buy a machine, especially one that isn’t limited and can be produced in the future, it devalues. Yours is worth less because I can buy a new one for the same price. As to being the best game and worth it, well I love MM obviously but don’t agree with you. There are many who prefer AFM or MBR, or newer games.

Yeah, I didn't understand how CGC was handling the changes and making retrofiitting at a similar price point possible in my initial post this morning. I should have read through the beginning of the thread before commenting but I still dont think that warranted being crapped on with a bunch of downvotes.

Of course, that isn't the post I was referencing in calling a few people here out. New MMr buyers may want to pay less (don't we all) but even if you don't care about the value of the games many of us bought previously taking a dump, I think you're missing the point.

CGC has had no problem selling MMr's in the past at the same starter price point they are now. Why should they lower the price to the level some paid for a AFMr or MBr when they don't have to? They are trying to make money and maximize profits.

By pricing and handling this they way they did, they will make $$ and sell more MMr's & upgrade kits without upsetting current and future customers. Makes sense to me.

Well, he who gives (downvotes) shall receive! Look, I get CGC and PPS need to balance the wishes of prior owners with the new ones. This is probably a good solution for both parties to end up at a similar price point. If they had come in $1k less as many wanted, then the only way to keep old owners happy would be huge discounts on the upgrades. So overall, they will lose a few customers but still sell a ton of machines. I hope they return to the previous price structure with the next game.

MM is one of my favorite games of all time but i wouldn't buy one for 10k. Compared to the price of MBR and AFMR Le It seems like a major rip off. I know why it's priced the way it is but still.

I think I am in on the topper and GI. I am on the fence about the larger screen and might pass. The larger screens do look nice but I don't mind how the smaller one looks.

Just curious... does this mean I can upgrade the gi in my afm? The software wouldn’t support it?

That last part we can agree upon. Hopefully future games will remain at the lower price point. I personally would be in for a TZ remake but anticipate if that were to somehow happen, it might be a bit more since it is a wide body with a lot of stuff.

Rick told me years ago TZ is too complicated and expensive to make, and too many out there. I’m hoping for BBBr!

Im hearing topper only available for the King Delux version. Similar to the JJPPOTCCE.

Why would it?
Competition doesn’t.
I may not like it, but price points are being tested and the market is supporting new 10k+ games.
Good for CGC.

Not surprised since you cannot buy it separately for AFM or MB.

Did that change since yesterday? I heard differently from PPS.

I think there is a lot of stuff floating around now. I would say contact pps or CGC. Hopefully we get some official details here very soon.

I hope topper is available for current owners if not that would be sad
Are there even holes on top of the current models for topper to go in ? And a hole for wiring ?

Fuck it, I’m in on the Royal. My LE is up for sale

Care to state why you chose to get the Royal over upgrading your LE?
One of the guys I caretake for his games was going to do this also but I convinced him to just update his game so curious why you chose to buy new.

3 reasons:
1) in addition to the 3 upgrades you also get black mirror blades and black sparkle armor
2) Brand new, again, vs my game with roughly 1000 plays on it
3) I’m crazy

Will do....I said no NIB for awhile...have a feeling I've lied (to myself) yet again.....

I like the #3.
Yeah don't think his game has more then 500. There might be other changes not mentioned yet so we'll have to wait and see.

So I can get all 3 upgrades to my MMr SE?

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That’s the word on the street

CGC, if you’re watching this, I just want an MMR for $6k. No fancy screen, no colorbombing, no topper. Just my favorite game at a slightly-more-than-Stern-pro price.

Don’t hold your breath.

10k+ new games ...Bc they are new pins with big screens, all rgb, deep code and usually offer more for home use than the older pins. Don't get me wrong i love me some b/w pins (some the best ever)but in home use they don't hold up as well for us compared to newer stuff. You can add all the lighting and bling you want but the game remains the same as 20-30 years ago. For the most part they still are great but i really like what the new stuff offers in home use compared to the 90s pins.