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Smaller packages are coming. Again.

By cottonm4

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    #151 84 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    In 2008 I could buy a 20 lb. bag of cat food. Then the economy went into the shitter. Eventually, the cat food went to a 16 lb bag but the price stayed the same. Running the math showed the resizing amounted to a 30% price increase.

    Your math is inflated, too! I come up with that being a 25% increase. A 14 lb bag would have been 30%.

    Not that it affects your argument, I just can't ignore a glaring math mistake is all. It's a curse.

    Percentages are tricky, though. That 25% price increase means you get 20% less food for the same price. (As 0.8 x 1.25 = 1)

    #152 84 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    Taco Bell's long overdue price increases have arrived. For the people in my area the $1 items are now $1.29, a 29% rate of inflation. The $2 ones are now $2.49, a 25% inflation rate. Corporate does not have these new prices on the website however which is interesting. So maybe discretionary per franchise store.

    I like the Taco Bell inflation index. I’m sure they will use that on all the financial reports.

    #153 84 days ago
    Quoted from TomN:

    I like the Taco Bell inflation index. I’m sure they will use that on all the financial reports.

    Like the Waffle House Index?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index

    #154 84 days ago

    Unfortunately prices increase and stay high while product size get smaller and never go back to the original size.

    And then when we get used to all that...they'll tell us that inflation has gone down even though prices are still high.

    #155 84 days ago

    Thanks to your government printing 40% of America's money supply in a single year. Pinball has been an amazing inflation hedge!

    #156 83 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    Taco Bell's long overdue price increases have arrived. For the people in my area the $1 items are now $1.29, a 29% rate of inflation. The $2 ones are now $2.49, a 25% inflation rate. Corporate does not have these new prices on the website however which is interesting. So maybe discretionary per franchise store.

    Their value menu really sucks though. Their promo deals are usually still good, but instead of $5 now like $7. Still lowest money per calorie.

    #157 83 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    Thanks to your government printing 40% of America's money supply in a single year. Pinball has been an amazing inflation hedge!

    Agreed. But I find myself wondering how stiff pin prices will be in an era of rising interest rates?

    #158 83 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    Agreed. But I find myself wondering how stiff pin prices will be in an era of rising interest rates?

    Well if all buyers on the used market are paying cash, they may not be affected. New games though, I agree may be impacted by the higher rates.

    #159 83 days ago
    Quoted from RyanStl:

    Their value menu really sucks though. Their promo deals are usually still good, but instead of $5 now like $7. Still lowest money per calorie.

    I don't drink sodas so I would nornally agree their $5 classic combo would be a better value. I can just get more food for $5 if I don't get the combo. Looking at the value menu the $1 bean and rice burrito is a better value per calorie than the other options. Those are good to put in the freezer for emergencies like winter weather.

    #160 83 days ago
    Quoted from rkahr:

    Semi-related: Remember when gas broke $1 for the first time? Many of the pumps at the time could only handle pricing up to 99 cents so stations started listing their price per 1/2 gallon. I drove up to PA for some AT hiking earlier this week and it occurred to me stations today have a $9.99 price problem in the future - both the pumps and the electronic signs only have 3 digits. I don't buy premium or diesel but those would experience it first. Regular was pushing $5.5 per gallon up in PA (high gas tax up there I think) - any of us reside in an area that is pushing closer to this line?
    -Rob
    -visit https://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or my replacement type 1 sound board for classic Williams games

    Quoted from Atari_Daze:

    Keeping with our shrinkflation / hyperinflation, they could price it per 1/2 gallon.

    I remember back when I got my first drivers license back in 1979, and there was the OPEC embargo that pushed up gas prices to the 1$ and up range.
    Many stations had pumps that could dispense and count off the cost of gas by the Liter (I'm assuming that maybe those pumps were designed for the U.S. and Canada).
    It wasn't uncommon to see stations selling gas at 27-31 cents per liter instead of 99.9 cents a gallon.

    #161 83 days ago
    Quoted from DanQverymuch:

    Your math is inflated, too! I come up with that being a 25% increase. A 14 lb bag would have been 30%.
    Not that it affects your argument, I just can't ignore a glaring math mistake is all. It's a curse.
    Percentages are tricky, though. That 25% price increase means you get 20% less food for the same price. (As 0.8 x 1.25 = 1)

    Snake Jazz doesn't care about your math or about prices. She just want's her Fancy Feast!
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    Seriously though, Cat food has gone way up, and for a while it was hard to find much of it in the stores. At least I can say I've found some bargains again at Dollar Tree and at one Grocery Outlet in the last few weeks.

    #162 83 days ago
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    #163 83 days ago

    Just noticed getting ready for the NYE party that my 20lb bag of ice is now 16lbs and went from $4 to $4.95. Now that is a cold slap in the face...
    Al

    #164 83 days ago

    I remember when party size was regular size. Also remember when gas hit a dollar per gallon and also when it doubled overnight from $1.50 to $3.00. That hurt since I had an hour commute to work to Cleveland. It is worse now than it has ever been. But Hot Wheels are still $0.99. Go figure.

    #165 82 days ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    Many stations had pumps that could dispense and count off the cost of gas by the Liter (I'm assuming that maybe those pumps were designed for the U.S. and Canada).
    It wasn't uncommon to see stations selling gas at 27-31 cents per liter instead of 99.9 cents a gallon.

    I never saw gas pumps that could measure in both liters and gallons. But in the early 70s there was a big push for the U.S. to swap our Imperial system of measurement and move to the Metric system. Both sides of the argument were calling the other side idiots. Eventually, someone asked how much it was going to cost to replace all the speed limit signs and mileage/distance signs and the matter died on the vine.

    But not before we had 3 or 4 years worth of some Detroit automobiles with dual measurements on the speedometer. I'm guessing these metric pumps had something to do with the U.S. attempting to move to the metric system.

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    Anyway, the U.S. never made the switch but we have a bastardized measuring system to jack with.

    For instance,

    1) in today's environment, every mechanic has to have a set of Metric wrenches and a set of American Standard wrenches in his toolbox. And also two sets of socket wrenches. Winners: The tool makers such as Snap-On and Mac Tools. And not just for the extra sales of tools. More tools meant that tool boxes had to get bigger. Today's gas station mechanic needs a tool box as big as commercial top load freezer.

    2) If I want a set of metric socket wrenches, I need to decide if I want 1/4" drive, 3/8" drive, or 1/2" drive metric sockets. Ah...yeah, I need a 13 mm socket with 1/2" drive.

    3) I worked for Beechcraft building airplanes. There were only American Standard nuts and bolts for a product that is exported all over the world.

    Since the U.S. never made the hump to metric system, the online authors, who are writing for a wide audience have to quote something in both Metric measurements and Imperial measurements so we can figure out what the size is.

    Our Canadian neighbors must be shaking their heads about the idiots south of the border who don't know what a liter is. Although, I do believe they also have to contend with metric socket sets that come in 3/8" drive.

    #166 82 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    But not before we had 3 or 4 years worth of some Detroit automobiles with dual measurements on the speedometer.

    All speedometers in Canada have the dual measurements but the km/h is the bigger number on the outside. It’s been this way as long as I can remember.

    #167 82 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    All speedometers in Canada have the dual measurements but the km/h is the bigger number on the outside. It’s been this way as long as I can remember.

    Yeah, I didn't like that when they brought a co. car down from Canada for us to use. If I'm in the US, show me MPH, dammit.

    #168 82 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    All speedometers in Canada have the dual measurements but the km/h is the bigger number on the outside. It’s been this way as long as I can remember.

    How old are you? Do you know if the dual reading speedometer was around before 1973?

    #169 82 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    How old are you? Do you know if the dual reading speedometer was around before 1973?

    Born in 78

    #170 82 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    All speedometers in Canada have the dual measurements but the km/h is the bigger number on the outside. It’s been this way as long as I can remember.

    Every car I've had except my first one (1976 Toyota Corolla DX) has had a dual speedometer.
    And my 2003 Suzuki Areo SX didn't have a dial. It was a digital display that could be switched between the two.
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    #171 82 days ago

    When I was a kid in the 90s I remember my mom said she could fill up the van for only $20. I think in our state gas was exactly $1.00 per gallon.

    #172 82 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    When I was a kid in the 90s I remember my mom said she could fill up the van for only $20. I think in our state gas was exactly $1.00 per gallon.

    Gasoline pretty much settled in around $1.20 per gallon for a long time. In late 80s and early 90s I drove a Lincoln Mark V with a gas guzzling 460 ci engine. A round trip to see family in Dallas cost me around $100.00 per trip. In 1995, I bought a Honda Civic with its 4 cylinder 1500 CC engine. Now a RT to Dallas was only costing me about $30.00 as I recall. I learned to like small cars with this mileage/cost difference.

    $20.00 to fill up a van sounds about right. That Honda was costing only $9.00 to fill up.

    #173 82 days ago

    It irks me, and it should irk you too, how the oil companies are guaranteed a profit of a fixed percentage of the price of gasoline, so that when the price goes up, so does their profits!

    #174 81 days ago

    Last year I bought my wife the same car she had in college when we met 20 years ago. An ‘88 Nissan pulsar nx, she went to put gas in it for the first time and put in $20. I laughed at her. 20 years ago, $20 would be enough gas to last the week, now it barely moved the needle by comparison.

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    #175 38 days ago

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    #176 38 days ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    So just caught this one today:[quoted image]

    And via the magic of creative packaging the smaller 8 oz. container on the right looks larger than the larger one on the left.

    #177 38 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    And via the magic of creative packaging the smaller 8 oz. container on the right looks larger than the larger one on the left.

    Bottle probably has one of those big indentations formed into the bottom, too.

    Even when I use a 2-for-1 mailer coupon for a couple of burgers or burritos at Del Taco, it STILL seems kinda expensive to me.

    #178 38 days ago

    Waffle House is great when you feel like fighting.

    #179 38 days ago

    Anybody bought a cheeseball lately?! FFS

    #180 38 days ago
    Quoted from Gryszzz:

    Anybody bought a cheeseball lately?! FFS

    ALL junk food is thru the roof....pretty much doubled in price and 1/2 the quantity. Probably not a bad thing if it stops people from eating that shit....

    #181 38 days ago
    Quoted from Gryszzz:

    Anybody bought a cheeseball lately?! FFS

    There's a store called Winco in Long Beach that carries Kakuna Club Chese balls and spreads, and they're a lot cheaper than any of the other local stores, except for the spread is cheaper per ounce if I go to Smart and Final and get a larger container there. But it's still not quite as cheap as it was about a year ago. Same goes for crackers.

    #182 38 days ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    So just caught this one today:[quoted image]

    There is a "yo mamma" joke in there somewhere.

    #183 38 days ago
    Quoted from CubeSnake:

    ALL junk food is thru the roof....pretty much doubled in price and 1/2 the quantity. Probably not a bad thing if it stops people from eating that shit....

    You know those candy bars high school bands sell for a dollar? They are still a dollar, but they look like a Hershey bar that has been split 4 ways. Long and flat.

    This pic will give you an idea.

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    #184 38 days ago

    And then there is the Toblerone chocolate bars.

    Toblerone made the move to smaller size a few years ago. But the triangular box did not change. I don't know how it is handling the price/size equation today.

    6 years ago.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/08/toblerone-gets-more-gappy-but-its-fans-are-not-happy

    #185 38 days ago

    I don't buy much dry food anymore from retail stores as the prices have gotten way out of hand. I literally saw a container of peanuts for THIRTEEN DOLLARS the other day. Bargain Hunt is my secret weapon. Lots of food on clearance and they will sometimes just mark down your ticket for the heck of it. I also found Velveeta macaroni and cheese shells for 40 cents once, literally 1970s prices. They usually go for about $5. And 32oz containers of organic roasted tomato soup for 50 cents each, normally $3.50. Here's one of my receipts, nearly $35 worth of food for $8. 3 sacks of stuff for less than a trip to the fast food drive through.

    See if you can find a similar place in your town and just check out what they have. Lots of people not paying retail prices for food and that overstock has to go somewhere. Just be wary the packages aren't dented, damaged, or expired. Also see if you can find a farmer or produce market for good prices on better quality fruits and vegetables. I'm blessed to know someone who raises chickens and he often gives me some of his extra eggs.

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    #186 38 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    I don't buy much dry food anymore from retail stores as the prices have gotten way out of hand. I literally saw a container of peanuts for THIRTEEN DOLLARS the other day. Bargain Hunt is my secret weapon. Lots of food on clearance and they will sometimes just mark down your ticket for the heck of it. I also found Velveeta macaroni and cheese shells for 40 cents once, literally 1970s prices. They usually go for about $5. And 32oz containers of organic roasted tomato soup for 50 cents each, normally $3.50. Here's one of my receipts, nearly $35 worth of food for $8. 3 sacks of stuff for less than a trip to the fast food drive through.
    See if you can find a similar place in your town and just check out what they have. Lots of people not paying retail prices for food and that overstock has to go somewhere. Just be wary the packages aren't dented, damaged, or expired. Also see if you can find a farmer or produce market for good prices on better quality fruits and vegetables. I'm blessed to know someone who raises chickens and he often gives me some of his extra eggs.
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    Looks like Bargain Hunt is concentrated down in the southeast. I don't know if there is something similar around here.

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    #187 38 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    Looks like Bargain Hunt is concentrated down in the southeast. I don't know if there is something similar around here.
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    Wow I didn't know there were that many locations.

    #188 38 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    And via the magic of creative packaging the smaller 8 oz. container on the right looks larger than the larger one on the left.

    Actually, the bottles are the same size. I think between the lighting, taking the picture really close up and the asymmetrical shape of the bottle it makes the one on the right look wider.

    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    Bottle probably has one of those big indentations formed into the bottom, too.

    I didn't check for that, but I will later.

    #189 38 days ago

    What matters is that no one says why inflation has happened. If you do that... well, you can canned, comrade.

    #190 38 days ago
    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    Bottle probably has one of those big indentations formed into the bottom, too.
    Even when I use a 2-for-1 mailer coupon for a couple of burgers or burritos at Del Taco, it STILL seems kinda expensive to me.

    Actually some containers with indentations are for structural reasons, but that's generally on larger containers, say like a half gallon or more or aluminum cans.
    But on many like milk jugs they're on the side, not the bottom.

    #191 38 days ago
    Quoted from GregCon:

    What matters is that no one says why inflation has happened. If you do that... well, you can canned, comrade.

    Yes, people should keep their opinions on that stuff to themselves as this is a pinball forum.

    Your friends and relatives on Facebook however find all of your political opinions endlessly fascinating so you should share them over there.

    #192 38 days ago
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    #193 38 days ago

    I will put this out there as simply as possible and will challenge you in a nice way to read and understand how things “may” work.

    The national debt is really our “money supply”. In order to get investment in innovative products, have enough money to develope and then purchase the innovative products “along” with “still” having money to buy basic everyday items like “food” we need to add money to the money supply or National debt. This has rose over the years.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEBTN

    Over the last 40 years we “absolutely could not” have had enough money out there to pay for all of our basic goods, housing etc and “also” have had enough money in the money supply to have almost every home in the US have a personal computer, 1 smart phone for every member living there and all of our other cool gadgets we have like new pinball machines and $50,000 cars that go 0-60 in 3.2 seconds sitting in the garage. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There would “have not been enough money” to even try to invest to come up with the innovation like this. Innovation that makes life “better for everyone”. The richest person in the world had a blackberry 20 years ago and Low income folks have an IPhone today which is 100 times better. Amazballs!

    Innovation is also “deflationary” and makes our time “more productive” and both have had huge impacts on our lives. Anyone “cut the cord of their phone land lines or cable lately or saved time and gas getting from point A to B with a driving App?

    The national debt or “money supply” is rising yes! but “asset” value is rising also. Our homes, stocks, gold, pinball machines, 1952 Topps Mantle rookies are rising up also. This is out running the debt and is “A LOT” higher than the money supply or debt which is out there. If one has owned any asset that has rose in value it is “partially” due to the rise of the money supply. But once again “the value of the assets we own do not have a dollar backing the value of them”, meaning if everyone sold all their Stocks and houses next month there would be no demand to buy the assets for sale and no where near enough money in the “money supply anyway” to do so. Assets which could be homes or GDZ LE’s are highly leveraged and recent price for the whole group is “based on the last few sales” only. The sold all stocks or houses was extreme but anyone who disagrees with me let’s see what happens if 10% of all the homes and stocks in the US go up for sale next week. Do you think the sale prices would “only” got down 10%??? No a lot more then that.

    Look at lower left on US debt clock for “asset value” which no one looks at. Upper left is debt or money supply. This is an ok gauge to see the leverage.

    Ok inflation!! Downside of adding to the money is “yes a lot of added money to the money supply can and does cause inflation”. We “pay a little more for food, utilities etc” YES but look at the upside with cool innovative “even deflationary like with chip productivity” products we own and use each day and also our assets the have increased in value. Food increase is not that bad compared to the whole picture.

    You don’t have to like the increased costs of food but we can’t have it all. We can’t have it all but “we have it pretty darn good”! Anyone who says no could go back in time 10,20,40 years ago and live that way again and can have the lower pricing that came with it. You have to leave your IPhone before you get in the time machine though.

    Trying to explain things as simple as possible. If anyone disagrees I am open totally open to hearing it.

    Thanks
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    #194 37 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Yes, people should keep their opinions on that stuff to themselves as this is a pinball forum.
    Your friends and relatives on Facebook however find all of your political opinions endlessly fascinating so you should share them over there.

    It's a thread about "packaging " in the off topic section.

    #195 37 days ago
    Quoted from poppapin:

    It's a thread about "packaging " in the off topic section.

    Still don't see why somebody would spend 2 years whining about how they can't post about politics here. It doesn't matter what section it is we all know the rules.

    Every post greg ever makes is a variation on "You know WHO'S fault this is but god forbid I point it out I'll get in trouble!"

    No shit! Go somewhere else where that IS allowed and dazzle everybody there with your awesome opinions instead of bitching about it endlessly here. It'll be better for everybody.

    #196 37 days ago
    Quoted from Gryszzz:

    Waffle House is great when you feel like fighting.

    Or waffling to the guy sitting next to you about how your eggs and potato plate is now $13. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    #197 37 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    Or waffling to the guy sitting next to you about how your eggs and potato plate is now $13. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    I don't know where you live but around here Amazon is putting the squeeze on many businesses when it started its $15.00 minimum wage. Other employers, including Walmart, have had to raise their wages to match. And they had to jack their menu prices to pay for the wage increase.

    Boy, we are gonna miss the cheap labor.

    #198 37 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    I don't know where you live but around here Amazon is putting the squeeze on many businesses when it started its $15.00 minimum wage. Other employers, including Walmart, have had to raise their wages to match. And they had to jack their menu prices to pay for the wage increase.
    Boy, we are gonna miss the cheap labor.

    Sounds good to me. Wages have been way too low for way too long.

    Some people want to keep wages at poverty levels.

    I’d say more about it, but if I do, I’ll get in trouble!!!

    You know what I mean.

    Cause I might get in trouble if I said more about my opinions on this!

    So you’ll never know what I’m really thinking!!!

    #199 37 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    And then there is the Toblerone chocolate bars.
    Toblerone made the move to smaller size a few years ago. But the triangular box did not change. I don't know how it is handling the price/size equation today.
    6 years ago.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/08/toblerone-gets-more-gappy-but-its-fans-are-not-happy

    I get a big toblerone for Christmas each year, and the one year had huge gaps between pieces, but customer backlash made them change it. Now the gaps are wider then they used to be, but not as ridiculous as they were.

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    #200 37 days ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    Taco bell has been expensive here for a while now. I really haven't been going there any more since the prices started creeping up, and since they removed a few of my go-to menu items.

    Get the $2 Beefy Melt Burrito as its the same size as thier regular ones. BARGAIN!!!

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