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Smaller balls for more varied and intricate playfields?

By westofrome

6 years ago


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    #2 6 years ago

    Speed increases way too fast when you go smaller. That's the only problem. It would probably work with a very open layout with far away ramps and nothing too close by, but otherwise it doesn't lend to more interesting design choices. I think the current size really allows the optimal footprint vs speed. Larger, and there would be no way to move it around (Hercules).

    I actually tried messing around with 3/4 size bearings on a piece of MDF with some flipper assemblies attached while entertaining the idea of an arduino based pitch and batt. Needless to say, it didn't work well at that size, and I abandoned it shortly after that initial test, since the entire PF was built around the concept of that size ball.

    But I hear you on sameness. No real innovation going on. But that is what people like and what sells. We won't see further innovation in pinball PF layouts/size probably because these aren't 99% in arcades generating large profits anymore where innovation could put a leg up on the competition for quarters.

    #6 6 years ago
    Quoted from westofrome:

    Interesting, but isn't speed also primarily a function of weight? If you had 3/4 balls with the same weight as a standard, would that make it more tenable?

    Good question. It would definitely make for more destruction though having that more concentrated mass.

    Crazy part would be that every standardized part we know of in pinball would have to be tweaked with a ball size change. There would be so much retooling to do and customized tweaks to parts that I think it would instantly blow the budget of any company trying to produce mass quantities. But I am talking out my ass here because I don't run a pinball factory.

    #7 6 years ago
    Quoted from BobLangelius:

    a 3/4" ball would have to be made from a material 4x the density of steel to keep the same weight as a 1.062" ball.
    Not sure what that material would be....

    Tungsten would probably be the closest actually obtainable thing, but even it is only like 2.5x the density of steel.

    Other denser of the metals would be Gold, Platinum, Iridium, Osmium, Platinum, Rhenium. Either not possible or too damn expensive. Just looking at periodic table here.

    https://www.amazon.com/Tungsten-Carbide-Bearing-Ball-Balls/dp/B00QFMTC8I/ref=sr_1_7

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