I'm having a hard time with this; not sure what to think. The people who say that "anything that doesn't result in a tilt is not cheating" are not looking at this objectively in my opinion. By that logic, shoplifting is not shoplifting if you don't get caught. Seems to me it's still shoplifting. There can only be so many mechanical checks in place to ensure that cheating is not happening but if there is not a mechanic that can detect that the machine has smoothly slid an inch or two, that does not mean that it's not cheating and the designers of the games would condone it as a legitimate strategy. Personally, I'll do a slap save but I don't believe that physically moving the game during play is something that any pin designer would consider as legitimate, if it's detected or not.

I do love pinball either way!

Your handle is "TheLaw" but you don't think a reference pertaining to crime and punishment is valid? Okay.

You want a sporting event. If a foul is committed but the referee/umpire does not see it, is it still a foul?

C'mon. That's a far better analogy than a cargument.

Then please quote someone who said that nudging is cheating. I said that the machine "slid an inch or two". That is not not the same as nudging. Thanks.

So is everyone's tilt "set up right"? This goes back to my original post.

"There can only be so many mechanical checks in place to ensure that cheating is not happening but if there is not a mechanic that can detect that the machine has smoothly slid an inch or two, that does not mean that it's not cheating and the designers of the games would condone it as a legitimate strategy."

If the cabinet can be slid several inches or lifted off the floor without the tilt mechanism being tripped, is it set up right?" Or is it not robust enough to detect these movements?

Your definition of nudging includes sliding the pinball machine across the floor a few inches? I would disagree.

The most obvious is the glass over the playfield.

Ditto. What's your point?

Then please state your objective.