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SkyLine issues, lights up, nothing else yet


By northerndude

8 days ago



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#1 8 days ago

Hey all, first EM, I’ve got a few things going and repaired, but still haven’t got it to “fire up”
I’m going to add a couple pics, then head to laptop to add more typing.

1. Stepper coil in head was cooked, melted sleeve in.
2. Wire off said coil
3. Relay 115v - spring missing.
4. The switches with the yellow pusher tabs are lined up,but don't know how they are supposed to be pushed on.

I can plug it in, nothing. If I push the 115v relay coil, it will power up. Then I cannot do anything else yet. Don't quite know where to head going forward now. Can't add a credit, cant start a game. Don't know if all balls need to be in trough to start a game or not? I bet i'm real close here, just need a nudge

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#2 8 days ago

If the Replay button doesn't activate the Start (S) relay on the 12 bank, Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features
Be careful because this circuit runs on 120 volts

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#3 5 days ago

Well, progress.
Trying to follow that schematic, can’t seem to find my starting points I made a long alligator clip jumper to use.

#4 5 days ago

If I toss a coin in, it directly resets everything and opens the ball gate coil.

If I manually add credits on the wheel. I can hit the start button and the same happens as if I pushed 1 coin in if there is no credits. Still haven’t got a scoring or flipper action. Must be missing something.

#5 4 days ago
Quoted from northerndude:

If I toss a coin in, it directly resets everything and opens the ball gate coil.
If I manually add credits on the wheel. I can hit the start button and the same happens as if I pushed 1 coin in if there is no credits. Still haven’t got a scoring or flipper action. Must be missing something.

Check all the switches on the game over relay.

#6 4 days ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Check all the switches on the game over relay.

Check all the switches that are stacked with a relay? Dang, i'm sure i've been through them all, but, i'll look through all again for sure.
Like all of these?

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#7 4 days ago

If you'd like to try a phone call, send me your cell phone # in a private message and I'll text you back.

#8 4 days ago

To add to above... and apologies if you know this but hard to tell... you have circled the switch blades where they connect to wires that run between switches/relays/etc. what you need to do is look at the other end of those brass switch blades. The relay has a white plastic part that moves as the coil engagaes. You can use your fingers to accuate it. Check if switch blade contacts are making firm contact when closed (watch fixed blade and see that it ever so slightly deflects in response to a switch closure). You also need to be sure that when open the contacts actually break connection.

Also- there are other potential causes... but decent place to look first!

One troubleshooting technique that is often of some use is- while machine is on, accuate the relay in question with your hand being certain to fully operate the mech. See if it ends up resetting. It would be criminal if I did not post script this comment with a warning. Live machine equals electricity equals potential for at minimum blowing fuses or worse shock. Be careful and judge your skill and knoweldge before you ever work on a plugged in machine.

#9 4 days ago

Thx, yeah, i'm pretty good with all this stuff. It's just my first EM, that's all. I had just circle the block switches that were attached/located with a relay
I have adjusted every switch so far I think (using a handy dandy switch adjuster tool, thank goodness I pre-bought it no even knowing I would grab an EM) Of 100% of the switches, I bet 40-60% were out in some capacity, some that were supposed to be normally closed were open and vice versa. Many of them were too far gapped, I've been watching Nic Schell closely, watching a bit of his techniques, applying most of what i've seen. I've read some EM website stuff, steppers I need to learn and get a handle on.

That's the point i'm at now, trying to find out that one spot that's getting me (THANKS for the phone call offer Howard, i'll probably take you up on that soon..... i'm at work today, i an maybe arrange a time that's good for you one day or evening here, it's so cool you offered)

#10 4 days ago

I work in the telecom industry in the central offices and etc. I’m wiring some fuse panels for some fibre equipment up to our brand new bdfb today, look at these big M.F. DC power cables!!! The crimp connectors are massive!!!

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#11 4 days ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Check all the switches on the game over relay.

OOOOOHHHHH, the "game over" relay, holy shit i'm dense, not being facetious here either, I was trying to figure out what area was "over relay"

#12 4 days ago

Should have put it in quotes. I usually do, but was lazy this time.
Always tighten the small screws which hold the switch stacks together before cleaning and adjusting. Sometimes the fiber wafers shrink and the stacks get really loose. They won't stay adjusted well if they're loose.

#13 4 days ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Should have put it in quotes. I usually do, but was lazy this time.
Always tighten the small screws which hold the switch stacks together, before cleaning and adjusting. Sometimes the fiber wafers shrink, and the stacks get really loose. They won't stay adjusted well if they're loose.

Great call, thanks. I'll make sure I do that.

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