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Similarities with Pinball Market & the 2008 Housing Crash


By alexanr1

55 days ago

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    “For any part of your pinball collection have you borrowed money to make your purchase?”

    • Yes, I have a loan or using a HELOC to purchase 5 votes
      2%
    • Yes, I paid with a credit card and make payments to my card provider 13 votes
      6%
    • Yes, I have financed through a supplier. 1 vote
    • No, I always pay cash. 198 votes
      91%

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    #1 55 days ago

    At my age I have seen a lot. I remember black Monday in 1987, I remember the dot com bubble of 2000 and of course I remember the housing crash in 2008. What all of these had in common was a highly over valued market and a bunch of consumers whose greed convinced them to overpay believing it will go up in value. As the ole adage goes “pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered”.

    This leads me to the current pinball market. I am seeing brand new pinball machines being purchased for X and being resold for up to 2x more.

    I am seeing A nice pin that is worth $3k at best, if it is like new, being listed for $12k. 1F65128B-8999-4469-AF3D-58C81A6BD027 (resized).jpeg
    - While this machine does not likely have the owner in large debt, they most likely have way more in it than it’s worth.

    My biggest concern is if people are taking out loans to buy very expensive pinball machines and when (not if) we have another recession, will there be a lot of people upside down on their pin investments and have to sell to a market that may not have the ability to absorb high priced pins? (In other words sell for far less than they have in them)

    I am interested in how much, if any, debt is tied to expensive pinball purchases. (See my poll)

    Thanks in advance for helping me better understand the debt tied to pinball ownership.

    #2 55 days ago

    There’s just more people in the hobby today than ever before. More people means more people with resources, more demand creates higher prices end of story. Think of it as the gentrification of pinball.

    #3 55 days ago

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    #4 55 days ago

    Oh boy! Another bubble thread

    Please let the bubble burst so i can buy more! LMAO

    #5 55 days ago

    What I see now is just another generation of collectors, causing hot sellers market. Money being printed by Uncle Sam is helping pinflation. Trend starts with high end collectibles, then trickles to basics.

    Inflation is coming, maybe not eighties hard, but it’s coming.

    #6 55 days ago

    Always cash on the glass for new or used

    #7 55 days ago
    Quoted from underlord:

    Inflation is coming, maybe not eighties hard, but it’s coming.

    It is already here and going to get worse.

    #8 55 days ago
    Quoted from alexanr1:

    I am seeing A nice pin that is worth $3k at best, if it is like new, being listed for $12k. [quoted image]
    - While this machine does not likely have the owner in large debt, they most likely have way more in it than it’s worth.

    This guy is notorious for doing mid-level restores on games and asking insane prices. He is what I call a idiot who is hoping some other idiot or uninformed buyer takes the bait. most of his stuff sits on ebay for years going unsold.

    #9 55 days ago
    Quoted from alexanr1:

    At my age I have seen a lot. I remember black Monday in 1987, I remember the dot com bubble of 2000 and of course I remember the housing crash in 2008. What all of these had in common was a highly over valued market and a bunch of consumers whose greed convinced them to overpay believing it will go up in value. As the ole adage goes “pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered”.
    This leads me to the current pinball market. I am seeing brand new pinball machines being purchased for X and being resold for up to 2x more.
    I am seeing A nice pin that is worth $3k at best, if it is like new, being listed for $12k. [quoted image]
    - While this machine does not likely have the owner in large debt, they most likely have way more in it than it’s worth.
    My biggest concern is if people are taking out loans to buy very expensive pinball machines and when (not if) we have another recession, will there be a lot of people upside down on their pin investments and have to sell to a market that may not have the ability to absorb high priced pins? (In other words sell for far less than they have in them)
    I am interested in how much, if any, debt is tied to expensive pinball purchases. (See my poll)
    Thanks in advance for helping me better understand the debt tied to pinball ownership.

    Quit looking at the overpriced ebay pins. Those are not good examples, and those games have been listed and relisted for years. They aren't selling (at least the majority are not).

    Yes you can find a few decent actual auction pins on ebay, but for the most part, no.

    #10 55 days ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    Oh boy! Another bubble thread
    Please let the bubble burst so i can buy more! LMAO

    I looked and when I searched the last bubble thread was quite a while ago....
    My intent is to understand how leveraged buyers are. Economics 101.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/are-we-in-a-pinball-bubble (4 years ago)

    #11 55 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    Quit looking at the overpriced ebay pins. Those are not good examples, and those games have been listed and relisted for years. They aren't selling (at least the majority are not).
    Yes you can find a few decent actual auction pins on ebay, but for the most part, no.

    Don’t have to look on eBay, the Pinside market has them too as well as Facebook marketplace. It was JUST an example.

    Do I have to list a bunch on Pinside to make my point?
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/110076 strange world EM $10k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/109805 POTC $19.5k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111564 GNR $21K
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111448 JP $12k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111339 TBL $15k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/85387 Beatles $17k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/109953 Elvira’s HOH $17.5k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111791 IM premium/LE $11k (#57! how does that make it worth more?)

    I got tired of cutting and pasting ads. Could have done this for 30 minutes and not shown them all.

    #12 55 days ago
    Quoted from alexanr1:

    I looked and when I searched the last bubble thread was quite a while ago....
    My intent is to understand how leveraged buyers are. Economics 101.
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/are-we-in-a-pinball-bubble (4 years ago)

    There is a new bubble thread about once a month or so. This is generally a rich persons hobby, so don’t expect much leverage. Carry on

    #13 55 days ago

    The inflated prices for pins will crash, along with other Collectable Markets when assets need to be liquidated to pay the bills.
    That has not happened yet.
    I do see Ems and early SS reaching commodity status, they will consistently command a set price if in good working order with good cosmetics.
    When SHTF I see everything for sale if the price is right.

    #14 55 days ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    There is a new bubble thread about once a month or so.

    Well it didn’t show up in my search. I would also disagree it is a rich person’s hobby, but that’s the purpose of my poll question.

    I also have yet to see one that is trying to understand if people are leveraged with their purchases. It’s not emotional it’s just a data point. The market prices are an indicator, if buyers are doing with cash it’s not a bubble, if buyers are borrowing to purchase machines that they won’t be able to sell and break even if they are in need of cash, then it’s a big red flag.

    Based on he couple people who go straight to the negative side of my question, i am guessing those people are leveraged and additionally will not likely tell the truth in the poll due to their ego and pride.

    #15 55 days ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    The inflated prices for pins will crash, along with other Collectable Markets when assets need to be liquidated to pay the bills.
    That has not happened yet.
    I do see Ems and early SS reaching commodity status, they will consistently command a set price if in good working order with good cosmetics.
    When SHTF I see everything for sale if the price is right.

    Thanks for the intellectual feedback.

    #16 55 days ago

    We are just simply in the middle of a "pindemic".

    #17 55 days ago

    That ehoh was a signature edition which sold near that new, and is very limited and in demand.

    Quoted from alexanr1:

    Don’t have to look on eBay, the Pinside market has them too as well as Facebook marketplace. It was JUST an example.
    Do I have to list a bunch on Pinside to make my point?
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/110076 strange world EM $10k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/109805 POTC $19.5k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111564 GNR $21K
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111448 JP $12k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111339 TBL $15k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/85387 Beatles $17k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/109953 Elvira’s HOH $17.5k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111791 IM premium/LE $11k (#57! how does that make it worth more?)
    I got tired of cutting and pasting ads. Could have done this for 30 minutes and not shown them all.

    #18 55 days ago
    Quoted from alexanr1:

    Based on the couple people who go straight to the negative side of my question, i am guessing those people are leveraged and additionally will not likely tell the truth in the poll due to their ego and pride.

    #19 55 days ago

    My suggestion. Don't buy pins.

    #20 55 days ago

    The poll results make a great deal of sense. A few charging on a credit card, then paying it off. The majority using cash on hand. Speculators are much more likely to be into NFTs or Gamestonk or Bitcoin/Dogecoin or Pokemon boxes. Pinballs are large heavy objects difficult to sell quickly. Bubbles usually happen with items that have little intrinsic value or have "never gone down so you can borrow infinite to sell later at a profit". Pinballs don't really fit either very well.

    #21 55 days ago
    Quoted from renvhoek:

    The poll results make a great deal of sense. A few charging on a credit card, then paying it off. The majority using cash on hand. Speculators are much more likely to be into NFTs or Gamestonk or Bitcoin/Dogecoin or Pokemon boxes. Pinballs are large heavy objects difficult to sell quickly. Bubbles usually happen with items that have little intrinsic value or have "never gone down so you can borrow infinite to sell later at a profit". Pinballs don't really fit either very well.

    Agree so far, however I don’t believe the sample size is large enough to be conclusive.

    #22 55 days ago

    The Pinside bubble could pop any day now....

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    #23 55 days ago

    not a good comparison
    the housing market was billions of dollars of loans made out to people who could not afford to take out the loan in the beginning
    other than the house, these people owned nothing of value
    banks borrowed money from other financial institutions, who borrowed from other financial institutions, it was a big ponzi scheme just waiting for someone to sneeze

    I doubt that many pinball machines are bought on finance, and those have done so, also own cars, motorbikes, TVs and other stuff a foreclosing bank can sell off
    and even if the pinball market collapsed tomorrow, the finance companies total pinball liability would be less then $1 mill

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    #24 55 days ago

    Yeah this thread is st00pid

    #25 55 days ago

    Used =cash .New =southwest visa use the points for airfare pay off end of month .All in all would never buy a pin unless it’s covered that day .You know like how the dollar used to be backed by gold

    #26 55 days ago

    From what I've seen, many pinsiders (that post) are on the upper tier of the money. Others, with tons of games, bought many of them long before they went crazy in prices.

    I will say I did think Corona was going to mark the beginning of fire sales, but the opposite happened.

    I don't buy pins as investments, so I really don't care what prices do. I have limits in what I will spend, but...even that gets broken on occasion.

    On the plus side I've only taken out my 3rd mortgage and maxed out 17 credit cards to buy pinballs. Yeah, I did sell my grandmother to a sweat shop, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Hobbies don't pay for themselves.

    #27 55 days ago

    Bump to get some Sunday pinsider’s poll data.

    #28 55 days ago

    If you are borrowing money to buy pinball machines please seek help.

    #29 55 days ago

    I personally think the current real estate market more resembles the 2008 situation (at least with price escalation in my region), but don't want to derail your thread/poll with that rathole. I find the results so far interesting (and kind of expected) - 90% pay cash.

    -Rob
    -visit https://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that help fix WPC pinball resets or my pinball 2000 H+V Video Sync Combiner kit

    #30 55 days ago
    Quoted from jackd104:

    If you are borrowing money to buy pinball machines please seek help.

    Yea, this is a dangerous move

    #31 55 days ago

    These threads... There is no value in your data. Pinball prices have more to do with the rise of new parts and repair guides and the internet than anything. When demand diminishes, games won't go back to $0. Alot of games were paperweights and now they are easily repairable.

    The only debate is how much money will be cut off the top on flipping games.

    90% of people pay cash, 9% use credit cards and pay them off for the points, 1% sell their smelly ass bodies on the side.

    #32 55 days ago

    Honestly, what is not a "bubble" at this point?

    Take a pick:
    Student loans
    Auto loans
    Housing
    Stocks

    #33 55 days ago

    This is just a guess of course but I think a vast majority of pinball buyers are not made using a loan / credit card to purchase games. I could be wrong as many distributors now accept a credit card and apply a fee to the total cost. I would say 90% of buyers pay in cash / immediately pay off their credit cards while the other 10% are on credit / personal loans.

    As for the $12,000 high speed game that's just unrealistic crazy Ebay pricing and it has been going on for 10+ years. The same thing occurs on Ebay with other collectible items.

    #34 55 days ago

    Here we go with the "world financial system is just a giant ponzi scheme" conspiracy theories

    #35 55 days ago

    Well can someone just pop the bubble so I can buy my next pin

    Quoted from Coz:

    The Pinside bubble could pop any day now....
    [quoted image]

    #36 55 days ago

    Why have any concern? If someone overleveraged that was their decision.

    Pinball a hobby not a government protected retirment investment plan .

    Shane

    #37 55 days ago
    Quoted from woody76:

    It is already here and going to get worse.

    Exactly. I don't need Jerome Powell to lie to me about the nonexistence of inflation to know that is in fact here. It's all around. Everything is up.

    #38 55 days ago
    Quoted from bepositive:

    Why have any concern? If someone overleveraged that was their decision.

    Exactly! Lots of people have CC debt whose to say they overspend on pins or a boat. It happens all the time unfortunately. It used to be, you borrow money, you pay it back. Now it’s, you borrow money, remain irresponsible and blame someone else.

    #39 55 days ago

    From a price perspective our first (and more realistic) wish is for prices to level off which will happen before they go back down. If they go back down. Somewhere out there someone is paying these prices. Until that stops that’s what the market will take.

    I like to point out the raw materials and labor that went into making an EM. If they were to make some EMs today they’d probably be just as expensive as the new stuff. I’ll bet it would cost a lot more to build and wire up a 4 player EM than drop an LCD in. By these standards that will keep EM prices competitive into the future.

    #40 55 days ago

    I am personally hoping for a really nice deals to pop up in real estate, not pinball.
    24 months. That is my potential window.

    #41 55 days ago

    I always buy with cash. If I can't afford it, then I can't have it, so simple. Loaning for pinballs is rather stupid imo.

    #42 55 days ago
    Quoted from Lhyrgoif:

    I always buy with cash. If I can't afford it, then I can't have it, so simple. Loaning for pinballs is rather stupid imo.

    Then, according to your avatar, you must not be drinking too much coffee!

    #43 55 days ago
    Quoted from alexanr1:

    Don’t have to look on eBay, the Pinside market has them too as well as Facebook marketplace. It was JUST an example.
    Do I have to list a bunch on Pinside to make my point?
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/110076 strange world EM $10k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/109805 POTC $19.5k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111564 GNR $21K
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111448 JP $12k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111339 TBL $15k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/85387 Beatles $17k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/109953 Elvira’s HOH $17.5k
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/111791 IM premium/LE $11k (#57! how does that make it worth more?)
    I got tired of cutting and pasting ads. Could have done this for 30 minutes and not shown them all.

    Prices on just about everything are over inflated right now, there is so much money floating around in the economy right now! As long as the Fed keeps printing and rates stay at or near zero that’s the way it will be. It’s not just Pinball prices that are inflated, try buying a used pick up truck.

    #44 55 days ago

    Just stop. You are using life experiences and comparing them to a collectible niche hobby. All we know is that you are middle aged and you think pinball prices are too high. Just go play some pinball and calm down. Why does it matter? You are the only person that can determine if something is not priced right. Commenting on the price something is listed for or that the market is due to crash is not something anyone has control over. If it happens, it happens. You are just annoying people, you are not helping anyone here. For everyone else in this boat, let it go!

    It’s just like saying in 200 years, no one will collect pinball machines. Who cares? Let it go man. This is all understood stuff in our hobby, we don’t need another thread about it.

    #45 55 days ago
    Quoted from snyper2099:

    It’s just like saying in 200 years, no one will collect pinball machines. Who cares? Let it go man. This is all understood, we don’t need another thread about it.

    It's ok. He did a "search" which revealed there hasn't been a price bubble thread in 4 years, and that there has always been a dire shortage of moronic price speculation speculation threads. Not sure how he missed these though, must have slipped through the cracks of his Sherlock-like investigation:

    2000:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/gzU8ZAOxvUE/qII_fx4klQ0J

    2001:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20decrease%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/3XZf_itbXjY/QI04T4Qr9UkJ

    2002:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20price$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/8CDhldb5kyw/JxQRQPIGmQwJ

    2003:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20market$20price$20fall%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/clAO0zIHHfQ/CbExiOZrldIJ

    2004:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20decrease%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/pXZDb-2V6Yk/GSPWq06-nWsJ

    2005:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/ACTs0HpQktA/x-C5LZAF180J

    2006:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20price$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/dBrqPnk7mkk/nQYyh65_fewJ

    2007:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20prices$20fall%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/femnxuH8a1k/oeXzsItDbOQJ

    2008:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/44iMVjwb68o/wXb8-3F9vOIJ

    2009:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20market%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/JsgTrS05pCc/8pB5t9oUqTAJ

    2010:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20market%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/hNRZGnOAZ-Y/bs8Js1M7sUAJ

    2011:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/DlcZoruS0Bo/VO_cueyPCEQJ

    2012:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-price-bubble-think-it-cant-happen-think-again

    2013:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-price-bubble-will-pop

    2014:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/this-is-not-a-rebirth-of-pinball-its-a-bubble

    2015:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/we-all-want-the-ass-to-drop-out-of-pinball

    2016:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/when-will-the-stern-bubble-burst

    2017:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/are-we-in-a-pinball-bubble

    2018:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/why-i-feel-pinball-prices-are-going-to-plummet

    2019:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/will-pinball-prices-come-down-

    2020:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/prices-dropping-

    2021:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-pricing-bubble-due-to-covid-one-nine

    #46 55 days ago
    Quoted from jackd104:

    If you are borrowing money to buy pinball machines please seek help.

    I have never bought a game on credit, but I know a lot of people that have bought a boat, motor home, dirt bike, motorcycle, etc. on credit and never felt the need to tell them to seek help.

    Spend your money however you want and get whatever brings you joy.

    #47 55 days ago

    Here’s a personal story full of facts you all will ignore

    In 2002 I was 19 and got a FHA loan for my first house in Akron OH.

    2008 happened because of people like me.

    I had 0 credit and was making 350 a week at a pet store and my girlfriend was making less working 25 hours a week at the Akron library.

    Banks were pressured to give out more loans in low income neighborhoods which is were my house was. Some say it was to help get the numbers up to show minorities getting loans but basically people could get loans with no problem. I owned that house until last year. But a 19 year old making 350 a week in 2002 with no credit history got a FHA mortgage for a HUD home for 75k with no problem.

    I do not see companies like Stern creating credit departments and giving loans for pinball machines for people in low income areas with no credit history or income ratio perimeters.

    You can’t compare pinball sales to the 2008 crash.

    #48 55 days ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    Yeah this thread is st00pid

    After my short rant above. I agree with you.

    #49 55 days ago

    Cash. Less personal debt bubbles today unlike 07/08. Many first/newer pin buyers have the money to burn regardless driving up prices during covid. Supply line snags and raw good prices are contributing as well.

    #50 55 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    It's ok. He did a "search" which revealed there hasn't been a price bubble thread in 4 years, and that there has always been a dire shortage of moronic price speculation speculation threads. Not sure how he missed these though, must have slipped through the cracks of his Sherlock-like investigation:
    2000:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/gzU8ZAOxvUE/qII_fx4klQ0J
    2001:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20decrease%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/3XZf_itbXjY/QI04T4Qr9UkJ
    2002:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20price$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/8CDhldb5kyw/JxQRQPIGmQwJ
    2003:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20market$20price$20fall%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/clAO0zIHHfQ/CbExiOZrldIJ
    2004:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20decrease%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/pXZDb-2V6Yk/GSPWq06-nWsJ
    2005:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/ACTs0HpQktA/x-C5LZAF180J
    2006:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20price$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/dBrqPnk7mkk/nQYyh65_fewJ
    2007:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20prices$20fall%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/femnxuH8a1k/oeXzsItDbOQJ
    2008:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/44iMVjwb68o/wXb8-3F9vOIJ
    2009:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20market%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/JsgTrS05pCc/8pB5t9oUqTAJ
    2010:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20market%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/hNRZGnOAZ-Y/bs8Js1M7sUAJ
    2011:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/DlcZoruS0Bo/VO_cueyPCEQJ
    2012:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-price-bubble-think-it-cant-happen-think-again
    2013:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-price-bubble-will-pop
    2014:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/this-is-not-a-rebirth-of-pinball-its-a-bubble
    2015:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/we-all-want-the-ass-to-drop-out-of-pinball
    2016:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/when-will-the-stern-bubble-burst
    2017:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/are-we-in-a-pinball-bubble
    2018:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/why-i-feel-pinball-prices-are-going-to-plummet
    2019:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/will-pinball-prices-come-down-
    2020:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/prices-dropping-
    2021:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-pricing-bubble-due-to-covid-one-nine

    Ah, Levi, you did not let me down. I was watching for that post.

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