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Siegecraft Williams drop target slider board help

By johnnycruzr

5 years ago


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#1 5 years ago

I purchased a set of Seigecrafts Williams drop target slider boards for my Blackout.
I installed the center (Condition Red) bank ones last night and my targets are not registering properly.
When the right 2 targets are down, it registers the entire bank and resets them.
I have double and triple checked my wiring as per the diagram (attached), and it is wired correctly.

Anybody else run into this with these boards or have any ideas?

TIA

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#2 5 years ago

I forgot to add that I do have the boards themselves in the correct order as well.

#3 5 years ago

Johnny;

Can you shoot a photo of that bank for me, how you have it wired? I wonder if there's something I missed when I came up with the schematic, many of them I only had access to the schematic manual and not an actual machine.

Does the other bank work ok?

-Hans

#4 5 years ago

Hans,

I will take a picture for you and upload it here.

I did not do the upper bank yet, so it still has original boards. Was wondering if this could be the issue.

#5 5 years ago

Hans,

Picture as requested, let me know if you need more.

Thanks!

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#6 5 years ago

Wiring looks as per the schematic. I'll double check the switch matrix to make sure I have it correct.

Only thing I can't see is there's one more jumper on the boards, will be on one of the two targets that has a single diode.
Right above the wiring connector. It should be on the end target, not the center target.

All the diodes have the stripes the same? Away from the connector?

-Hans

#7 5 years ago

I'd be willing to bet you found my issue Hans...

I never even noticed the difference in the 1 diode boards (jumper at the bottom of 1) until you responded and I looked at the schematics again.

I'd be willing to bet I have the jumper-ed board in the center, and not on the end.....I will let you know.

On a positive note, if it turns out to be this, I'm glad I spent the extra money for the connectors instead of soldering the wires direct to the board

#8 5 years ago

DOH!!

Fixed and working...

Thanks for the help Hans

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#9 5 years ago

Any news on the upgrade to replace these with sensors?

#10 5 years ago

I haven't had any contact with Steve in a while, unfortunately.

#11 5 years ago

Getting a few e-mails today about Blackout drop targets, so I did an update to the diagram to answer the most common question.

-Hans

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3 years later
#12 2 years ago
Quoted from johnnycruzr:

On a positive note, if it turns out to be this, I'm glad I spent the extra money for the connectors instead of soldering the wires direct to the board

Hey Johnny, Looking at these boards for a Williams Flash. Did you install the connectors or can the board be ordered somewhere with those already installed?

#13 2 years ago

I don't normally make them with the installed connectors, I don't know if the long term vibration will work the connectors loose or not. Just standard .156" headers, just like the ones one the CPU/Driver boards, except 8 pins instead of 9.

-Hans

8 months later
#14 1 year ago

HHaase

Is it possible to put in one of your replacement boards with the old boards? I tried but couldn't get it to work. I was getting continuity on all connections to the board where expected so I wanted to ask if it's possible to mix old with new before I do more troubleshooting. Thanks!

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#15 1 year ago

Sorry on the late reply. They can be mixed, yes, but probably need some wiring changes depending on the game/location.

Which game and target is that?

-Hans

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#16 1 year ago
Quoted from HHaase:

Sorry on the late reply. They can be mixed, yes, but probably need some wiring changes depending on the game/location.
Which game and target is that?
-Hans

It is williams flash and it is the fourth target starting from the flippers.

#17 1 year ago

Almost looks like it’s missing the diode and jumper on the bird, any chance you can get a clearer picture of the board without the wires in the way?

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from HHaase:

Almost looks like it’s missing the diode and jumper on the bird, any chance you can get a clearer picture of the board without the wires in the way?

Here’s a pic of board and set that I bought. Looks like I bought the wrong thing. Lol! Argh!

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#19 1 year ago

Was the box correctly marked? I’d hate to have wrongly packaged things

#20 1 year ago
Quoted from HHaase:

Was the box correctly marked? I’d hate to have wrongly packaged things

Yes. It was.

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