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    #251 6 years ago

    I have a united Skippy that I had to do that to. Every reel was sticking but surprisingly none of the steppers needed any work. Started at about 6 on a Saturday... fished about 2am on Sunday. Got all the way to the last set of reels before losing a clip. Wasted an hour probably looking for it. If I ever do that again I will make sure to have 3x the number of clips i could ever need to do the job on hand as to not waste time looking for them.

    #252 6 years ago

    Price check on a Skee Ball Too!
    I have been thinking about getting one locally.
    What is a reasonable decent condition fully working machine.
    I don’t want to low ball the guy, but I don’t want to over pay either.

    #253 6 years ago

    Delivered today.

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    #254 6 years ago

    Working on my 16ft Big Ball bowler right now. Just cleaned up and fixed the pin deck. Man this thing was dirty!

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    #255 6 years ago

    I want to clean up the alley what’s the best way? Once it’s cleaned up what do you guys use to protect it? Thanks..

    #256 6 years ago

    Nice job on the pin deck. On the formica, you could go with a cleaner and Magic Eraser, but that
    would take some time. I always went with Mean Green and Scotch Brite. Being formica, it holds
    up to the more aggressive Scotch Brite. As far as protecting, I never used anything. Just periodically
    clean it. I had C.C. Big Ball Bowlers out (20 footers), and some of the Fellas like putting a spin and
    curving the ball, and not applying anything enabled them to do that..
    What little formica wear was shown, was already there when I purchased the machines, mostly from
    old time Venders, but back in the 60s, people couldn't get enough bowling..

    #257 6 years ago

    Nice work on the pindeck. I will bet that took some time.
    Some day I will get a ball bowler.
    Had a 1959 bally monarch and now have a tic tac strike.
    I am looking to get the skeeball style puck game. Not sure what they are called. I missed one here in Boston a couple of years back

    #258 6 years ago

    I use 409 on the lane ,gutters, and balls. I highly recommend buying new balls through St. Louis Ball Bowlers. It makes a big difference.

    #259 6 years ago

    Thanks guys! Yeah I need to get some new balls for sure. I also want to get a lane extension to go from 16ft to 20ft. In the spring when the weather warms up I plan on sanding and stripping everything down to stain and repaint. Such a great game..

    For now it plays good and is fun for everyone. My kids would rather play this then pinball anyways.

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    #260 6 years ago
    Quoted from pacman11:

    I also want to get a lane extension to go from 16ft to 20ft.

    If you add a 4' extension, as you're bowling, you'd swear that it's 10' longer..
    Big difference and if the space is there, very well worth it..
    I have plenty of new different multi colored 4.5" balls that work fine on United,
    but when tried on a Big Ball Chicago Coin, unless they were like the original
    brown balls with the white swirls, at times the ball would get stuck. It's the only
    Big Ball C.C. on tried the non brown/swirled balls on, but I now make sure the C.C.
    Big Ball Bowlers that I have/had, gets played with only the brown white swirled balls..

    #261 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    If you add a 4' extension, as you're bowling, you'd swear that it's 10' longer..
    Big difference and if the space is there, very well worth it..
    I have plenty of new different multi colored 4.5" balls that work fine on United,
    but when tried on a Big Ball Chicago Coin, unless they were like the original
    brown balls with the white swirls, at times the ball would get stuck. It's the only
    Big Ball C.C. on tried the non brown/swirled balls on, but I now make sure the C.C.
    Big Ball Bowlers that I have/had, gets played with only the brown white swirled balls..

    Yeah the balls I have are those brown with white swirls and once in awhile they get stuck. I just measured them and I believe they are 4-1/2inches..

    How much should I expect to pay for a lane extension?

    #262 6 years ago
    Quoted from pacman11:

    How much should I expect to pay for a lane extension?

    For the MBA/Bowlarama Bowlers it's said that it's like $100/ft. Maybe could say
    that about the other Big Ball Bowlers, but really never see enough, if any, sold
    to really base a price on..
    St. Louis Ball Bowlers may have an extension, but if you or someone you know
    occasionally does some wood work, an extension can be made. It could also be
    made what ever length you'd like that fits the spot that the bowler is in, and also
    it would take away the possibility that the extension is a little to wide or narrow..
    I know. Getting the formica to match. But there's some alternatives for that..

    #263 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    For the MBA/Bowlarama Bowlers it's said that it's like $100/ft. Maybe could say
    that about the other Big Ball Bowlers, but really never see enough, if any, sold
    to really base a price on..
    St. Louis Ball Bowlers may have an extension, but if you or someone you know
    occasionally does some wood work, an extension can be made. It could also be
    made what ever length you'd like that fits the spot that the bowler is in, and also
    it would take away the possibility that the extension is a little to wide or narrow..
    I know. Getting the formica to match. But there's some alternatives for that..

    Okay that’s interesting, maybe I’ll build one but you are right the Formica probably won’t match and where could I get a plug too for that middle? That plug looks strange.. probably just have to rewire it..

    #264 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    For the MBA/Bowlarama Bowlers it's said that it's like $100/ft. Maybe could say
    that about the other Big Ball Bowlers, but really never see enough, if any, sold
    to really base a price on..
    St. Louis Ball Bowlers may have an extension, but if you or someone you know
    occasionally does some wood work, an extension can be made. It could also be
    made what ever length you'd like that fits the spot that the bowler is in, and also
    it would take away the possibility that the extension is a little to wide or narrow..
    I know. Getting the formica to match. But there's some alternatives for that..

    I think you are missing a zero on the end for a MBA or Bowl-A-Rama

    #265 6 years ago

    On the plug, what I have done is extend the harness (one wire at a time).
    It seems that I've always extended the harness that came from the front of the
    machine, but whatever end you can comfortably cut at least 6" from the female/
    male plug..
    On the formica. When extending the one that was put in a Friends bar (O'Leary's),
    I used white formica (of course it didn't exactly match), and then had a
    decal made (pretty cool decal) that said O'Leary's Bowling with this
    angry looking ball racing toward these scared looking 10 pins. That decal lasted a
    long time before it showed wear. If I did it again, I would put mylar over
    the extended section. Certainly you'd put Pacman11 or whatever. Not O'Leary's.
    It makes it appear there's a reason why the formica on that section has
    no lines, an actually add's a little something to the lane..
    If you choose that route, I should be able to have that decal made for you..
    When making the gutters, having a table saw blade (maybe the common 10")
    that pretty closely fits the gutters circular indent placed in the table saw, and then
    clamping a guide so that the board is sawing into the side of the blade
    will give 90% of the indent the gutter needs. Then 10% is a little sanding.
    I did the sanding with 60 grit wrapped around a 2.5" pipe coupling..
    Start the saw blade very low, and slowing increase with each pass..
    I've made an 8' extension for a 13' bowler, and a 5' for a 16 footer,
    and 21' is fine, but honestly, length to width, I think maybe 20' is close
    to the perfect ratio..

    #266 6 years ago
    Quoted from kidchrisso:

    I think you are missing a zero on the end for a MBA or Bowl-A-Rama

    Not $100/ft. $1,000/ft.?
    I'm not sure about $1,000/ft. but I can say years back I did trade an 8' Bowlarama extension for
    a nice Williams Line Drive and Gottlieb Rack-a-Ball..
    $22,000.00 all day, but I've heard that a Bowlerama did go for $36,000.00. Of course it was
    freshly redone..

    #267 6 years ago

    St. Louis Ball Bowlers sells both New and Used Lanes, www.stl-bb.com/ Facebook:St. Louis Ball Bowlers

    -1
    #268 6 years ago

    Is it easy to get the ticket dispenser working on these skee balls? Thought it would be funny to get some shitty prizes to cash in tickets for

    #269 6 years ago
    Quoted from gliebig:

    Is it easy to get the ticket dispenser working on these skee balls?

    I'm not sure about the newer models, but I went through quite a few for the old mechanicals, and just needed
    a little cleaning. The tickets for those are still available..

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    #270 6 years ago

    Does anyone know what I can use for the belt for the ball lift motor on a Chicago Coin Top Hat bowler?

    #271 6 years ago

    My Baytek Fireball

    Picked this up last month and decided it was to red for my liking. Redid the whole machine over a 5 day period to have it ready for my annual Christmas party. It’s now the most played game in my collection.
    Before and after pics was a lot of wood repair, paint work and swapping the fluorescent to LED but I think it looks much better black.

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    #272 6 years ago

    I will add that the Baytek head is HUGE but it comes apart very easy. Basically like ikea furniture that fits in knotches then held together with L-brackets. I was able to take my entire machine apart and reassemble in about 2hrs. If you have a tight opening this is a good option because disassembled it fits through doorways and stairs easily

    #273 6 years ago
    Quoted from Scar:

    Redid the whole machine over a 5 day

    Oh yes, looks much better! Well worth the 5 days..

    #274 6 years ago
    Quoted from Deez:

    Does anyone know what I can use for the belt for the ball lift motor on a Chicago Coin Top Hat bowler?

    Are you talking about the drive belt(s), (there's 2), for the pulleys?

    #275 6 years ago

    Anyone in this group know where I can can get a schematic for an ABC Deluxe shuffle bowler? I'm guessing it's 60's vintage based on the stories the owner told me.

    Thanks

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    #276 6 years ago

    Here is an ABC schematic from a 1957 machine:

    Bally ABC Bowler Schematic.pdfBally ABC Bowler Schematic.pdf

    #277 6 years ago
    Quoted from ramegoom:

    Here is an ABC schematic from a 1957 machine:

    Yup. The Deluxe is a 1957 also. Same schematic..

    #278 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    Are you talking about the drive belt(s), (there's 2), for the pulleys?

    Yes. I only saw one. It's about to give up the ghost.

    #279 6 years ago

    Ramegoom and Mopar - Thanks. The owners will be thrilled.

    #280 6 years ago

    Find some ABC information here:

    http://www.ramegoom.com/john/BallyABC-Bowler/

    Including a PDF of the schematic.

    Hope this helps.

    Bally ABC Bowler Schematic.pdfBally ABC Bowler Schematic.pdf

    #281 6 years ago
    Quoted from Deez:

    Yes. I only saw one. It's about to give up the ghost.

    Actually there's two belts. If I remember correctly, the pulley that has the
    belt coming from the motor's pulley has a small inside pulley attached that
    has a belt to drive the chain's ball lift. I believe they're the same size belt.
    I take and match the belts I need to replace to Napa Automotive. They
    carry heavy duty belts..
    Note: As you probably already noticed, both the motor and pulleys have
    tightening adjustments..

    #282 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    Actually there's two belts. If I remember correctly, the pulley that has the
    belt coming from the motor's pulley has a small inside pulley attached that
    has a belt to drive the chain's ball lift. I believe they're the same size belt.
    I take and match the belts I need to replace to Napa Automotive. They
    carry heavy duty belts..
    Note: As you probably already noticed, both the motor and pulleys have
    tightening adjustments..

    That's a good idea. I actually ended up just shooting an email to Chris at St Louis ball bowlers and bought one from him.

    #283 6 years ago

    I am pretty sure I got the owners manual and schematic from Jeff Wager in Andover MA for my Bally Monarch shuffle bowler 1959.
    Google him, he has a web site.
    The manual was handy as it had all of the switching explained on the steppers and stuff like that.
    Very reasonable prices and a nice guy to deal with.

    #284 6 years ago
    Quoted from PinballAir:

    I am pretty sure I got the owners manual and schematic from Jeff Wager in Andover MA for my Bally Monarch shuffle bowler 1959.
    Google him, he has a web site.
    The manual was handy as it had all of the switching explained on the steppers and stuff like that.
    Very reasonable prices and a nice guy to deal with.

    Jeff's list shows only the schematic available for the Monarch shuffle, but my list is about 5 years old. The manual might have been added since then.

    #285 6 years ago
    Quoted from Deez:

    Does anyone know what I can use for the belt for the ball lift motor on a Chicago Coin Top Hat bowler?

    Go to Tractor supply or an automotive store to get a belt

    #286 6 years ago
    Quoted from gliebig:

    Delivered today.

    Are the ticket mechs:
    Easy to find?
    Pricey?
    Easy to install and get working?

    #287 6 years ago
    Quoted from gliebig:

    Are the ticket mechs:
    Easy to find?
    Pricey?
    Easy to install and get working?

    There's a whole bunch of them on ebay right now.

    It's just basically a motor and a small circuit board, and matter of making sure everything lines up correctly so the tickets don't jam. Nothing too complicated.

    #288 6 years ago

    Anyone ever try and replace their formica lanes with a real bowling lane. Just saw these for sale online.

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    #289 6 years ago

    My buddy is looking for a skeeball in California. Shipping isn’t an issue, budget is up to $2,500 please message me with any leads.
    Thanks, Mike

    #290 6 years ago
    Quoted from jorge5240:

    My buddy is looking for a skeeball in California. Shipping isn’t an issue, budget is up to $2,500 please message me with any leads.
    Thanks, Mike

    Is your friend still looking for a lane?

    #291 6 years ago

    Fellow Pinsiders with Skee Ball,

    I've got a Kickstarter in the review process that should go live in the next couple of days for replacement score and ball count boards. My Skee had the mini-bulb displays... no longer! Now it has my new LED boards and they work great so I've decided to take them to market. Here's link where you can preview my Kickstarter campaign; I'll post an update when it gets approved and goes live!

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2111218102/662372168?ref=433344&token=89fb157b

    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

    #292 6 years ago
    Quoted from rkahr:

    Fellow Pinsiders with Skee Ball,
    I've got a Kickstarter in the review process that should go live in the next couple of days for replacement score and ball count boards. My Skee had the mini-bulb displays... no longer! Now it has my new LED boards and they work great so I've decided to take them to market. Here's link where you can preview my Kickstarter campaign; I'll post an update when it gets approved and goes live!
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2111218102/662372168?ref=433344&token=89fb157b
    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

    I like what you have done. But I also don't fully understand what you are fixing. It is impressive what you have done no doubt.

    #293 6 years ago

    Rob,

    A well thought out and executed solution to the issues you outlined in the kickstarter description. I read through the entire presentation as well as watch the video and look through the gallery, I would definitely be interested in a set to cure my fragile and ailing score displays. I did not, however, see a price indicated anywhere for the kick starter. Can you elaborate?

    #294 6 years ago
    Quoted from Rody:

    Rob,
    A well thought out and executed solution to the issues you outlined in the kickstarter description. I read through the entire presentation as well as watch the video and look through the gallery, I would definitely be interested in a set to cure my fragile and ailing score displays. I did not, however, see a price indicated anywhere for the kick starter. Can you elaborate?

    If you click through to the Kickstarter link the pricing is on the right-hand side of the page. Based on your pledge level there are different "rewards" which are the listed products.

    #295 6 years ago

    Thanks, the right side was not visible on my phone.

    So 165 bucks for a complete set.

    #296 6 years ago
    Quoted from Rody:

    A well thought out and executed solution to the issues you outlined in the kickstarter description. I read through the entire presentation as well as watch the video and look through the gallery, I would definitely be interested in a set to cure my fragile and ailing score displays. I did not, however, see a price indicated anywhere for the kick starter. Can you elaborate?

    Thank you Rody ! It's been a long time in the making and I'm really pleased with the result. Creating a video that will be entertaining enough for folks to actually watch is quite challenging for me - hopefully I've succeeded with this one.

    Quoted from Rody:

    Thanks, the right side was not visible on my phone.
    So 165 bucks for a complete set.

    Yes, except for the "Front of the line" sets that will be $155. Compares pretty favorably to the resale market on eBay:

    ebay.com link: NEW Skee Ball Mini Bulb Scoring Display Board Assembly For Model H Skee Ball

    or

    ebay.com link: NEW Skee Ball Mini Bulb Scoring Display Board Only Not Ball Count Board

    My campaign passed all the reviews at Kickstarter so I was able to turn it on tonight! Here's the link to the live project:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2111218102/skee-ball-display-pcbs-redesigned?ref=e36051

    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

    #297 6 years ago
    Quoted from rkahr:

    Fellow Pinsiders with Skee Ball,
    I've got a Kickstarter in the review process that should go live in the next couple of days for replacement score and ball count boards. My Skee had the mini-bulb displays... no longer! Now it has my new LED boards and they work great so I've decided to take them to market. Here's link where you can preview my Kickstarter campaign; I'll post an update when it gets approved and goes live!
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2111218102/662372168?ref=433344&token=89fb157b
    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

    These would be great, especially for location games. The bulbs don't seem to last very long, and the sockets are brittle and break often.

    An LED solution would be very welcome.

    #298 6 years ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    These would be great, especially for location games. The bulbs don't seem to last very long, and the sockets are brittle and break often.

    An LED solution would be very welcome.

    Glad you like my solution ForceFlow ... Certainly feel free to share the link with others who would be interested.

    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

    #299 6 years ago
    Quoted from rkahr:

    My campaign passed all the reviews at Kickstarter so I was able to turn it on tonight! Here's the link to the live project:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2111218102/skee-ball-display-pcbs-redesigned?ref=e36051

    I just updated the campaign with a stand-alone display that will run without a Skee Ball machine. Hopefully expands the appeal as a display piece in game rooms. Check it out at "update 2" in my campaign...

    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Williams system 3-7 sound board potentiometer solutions

    #300 6 years ago
    Quoted from rkahr:

    I just updated the campaign with a stand-alone display that will run without a Skee Ball machine. Hopefully expands the appeal as a display piece in game rooms. Check it out at "update 2" in my campaign...
    -Rob

    I like what you have done. But I still don't understand why you are going your route. Why not just do the 7 segment led display like the company made. Then you eliminate all the worry, hassle and extra parts.

    I have never had an issue with one.

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