Get a JP2 premium instead

I'll wait and see what JJP do with GnR......
Here's hoping they pull it off......

I would wait too if I were him because he’s on the fence

Don’t make the mistake of thinking you are gonna get a huge discount 6 months from now

I would bet EVERY single pinball game will be selling at a discount 6 months after its delivery some a bit more than others

This is a great theme and could pick up steam when code develops. Ops are reporting their pros are top earners

Had a pro and sold my pro. Had some fun with it for a month but there is some funky zones in the design.

I also had an LE on hold but I am going to hold off for a bit and see how things unfold.

Love the show not as impressed with what Stern brought to the table on this one so far.

No need to rush on this one there will be plenty to go around.

Okay then - adult up. It's evident from your posts that you already know what you should do. Go with your gut.

That is unless you've got money to burn. If that's the case - go for it!

is another poll coming for R@M too?

PLaying on location and owning one is completely different for me. Where I play an occasional game on location on a beat up machine is a whole different experience as diving deep into in my machines at home. Yeah, you can get a good feeling on how a machine plays and how well the theme is executed but the call outs, music are always different on location as they are at home. A whole different experience.

And then there is sustainability, when buying a LE machine I assume you don't want to flip it in a few months. Will the machine live up to your expectations?

Personally I am a PRO guy, but only when a PRO is sufficient. Star wars PRO just isn't sufficient, Black Night PRO just isn't sufficient. Therefor both titles will never enter my gameroom. The Munsters PRO misses the mini playfield but that wasn't a show stopper, Aerosmith misses the elevator and mini playfield and that's no issue (I modified lighting so I matches the PREM/LE though), GOTG PRO misses the arm and 2 magnets of which I find the arms very annoying and this Stranger Things misses the projector and the kinetic lock ball... so what?

Hope this helps you.

I think you should cancel the order until
- Stern makes it clear how they are going to provide playfields which don’t fill up with ugly pockmarks
- Stern tells us how we are going to get replacement node boards 10+ years fron now.

I had a Munsters LE i was having second thoughts about and wish i kept to my gut feeling i will loose out reselling it. Its not Awful its just not great. I had and Iron Maiden LE i had on order and my gut said yes every day and i love it, Same with other machines go with your gut if your having second thoughts then its for a reason. I wish i followed my gut with Munsters. This looks like a bigger Turd to be honest.

You should buy a pin based on what it is NOW, for the most part, not what you think it will be in X months time.

All you can be sure of in terms of what you’re going to get for your money is what you pay for on the day you buy it. That’s what is being sold. That’s all you’re entitled to.

“Investing” in the anticipated future awesomeness of a pin seems like a risky strategy to me. Even if you assumed Lyman had a desire to beef up these pins to a standard worthy of the money - he might not be able to, either due to time constraints working on other pins, or he might simply not care about it as much as you think he does. You’re betting a lot of money on a belief that he’ll have some kind of BM66/TWD epiphany and desire to revolutionise every pin he touches.

Obviously things are a bit muddy with everyone releasing things with half finished code, so you can be sure of a reasonable amount of polish after you’ve bought it, but when it comes to wholesale changes you’re very much in the lap of the Gods. In my opinion you’d be nuts to drop money on Stranger Things if you’re not satisfied with it “as is” because you think “in a year or more this will have amazing depth, just wait and see”.

Sooooo what’s your decision op?

Yes are ya still buying it?

Lol! You guys way overthink everything. It’s a pinball machine, not a major life choice. If it is a major life choice, the. You shouldn’t be buying nib pinballs. If you are buying these counting on no depreciation when you sell it, you are in the wrong hobby. Go buy expensive cars instead...oops, happens there, too.

I’d be willing to bet all the prognosticators on here put less thought and debate into their marriage than they do into the doom and gloom they cast upon new pinballs they have never even played.

Marriage? Which one...the 1st, 2nd or 3rd marriage are you referring too?

I played 4 games on a stranger things on location Saturday, It didn't do it for me. I also bought a Munster Premium simply from watching the release videos. I regret that...

Do what you want...Buy what you want....If you like something that others don't...Fantastic. Wear it as a badge of honor. You're a free thinker. Some of my favorite pins are ones that most on this forum would consider Dog S*&%.

Played the Pro alone two consecutive days 30 mins each. Only takeaway was the music. There isn't much in terms of ball interactivity and what is there is half baked and wonky. I like games that have multiple Multiball lock progressions via different shots and interactivity. My thoughts kept feeling what was available on the PF wasn't interesting and/or didn't work great, and what I have seen other models, it suffer from the same. I also bought a Munsters Prem and didn't cancel because it shot great and had features I assumed would be utilized differently via code progression. I have since moved on from Munsters and have no desire for stranger things in the present or future. Just feels cheap and broken design wise.

This is a pro that I have been playing. Stern is still having playfield issues. The overall quality is just poor. The playfields are just terrible. I am so disappointed. They need to get their act together and quick!

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I seriously am concerned about PFs. I hope Stern doesn't do a pin that I am interested in any time soon because they have got to get their play field process worked out.

Really amazing to see how bad they are screwing the play fields up the last 2 years, because they had excellent ones 10 years ago. SMH

Dude, grow a set would you.

I’m not sure what we are looking at there...maybe just a goober? ‍♂️

Might be the edge of some mylar put there?

Could you please let me know what we are looking for,?

I think he's showing the clear separating by the lower sling post...you can see the opaque white area in the black circle surrounding the removed art around the post...If it were me..I would make sure the post wasn't too tight, hit it with a heat gun, and maybe put a small drop of water thin super glue to prevent chipping and rebond the clear to the playfield then cover it with a circular mylar disc. Then check the other posts on the playfield to make sure they aren't too tight either