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should I be nervous with ebay/paypal payment for my game?


By rcbrown316

6 years ago



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    #1 6 years ago

    OH SHIT NOW i'M NERVOUS. I TOOK A PAYPAL PAYMENT VIA EBAY WHICH IS PENDING FOR 7 DAYS. THE MACHINE IS BEING PICKED UP BY sti//navl/MICHELLE BIANCHI Tomorrow morning. The buyer set up the shipping though so he must have paid them. That makes me more comfortable about releasing the machine but i figured i'd post the question to be safe and found vids thread on how not to get ripped off. The buyer has little to no feedback on ebay and hasn't been pressing me or responding to my status updates. What should I do? i have time to back out but not much.

    #2 6 years ago

    Don't do it...tell STI to wait. They will

    #3 6 years ago

    Hmm.. I usually keep the game until payment clears but I understand your perdicament. The buyer pays NAVL when the game is delivered.. not when scheduling delivery so you are not out of the weeds yet. I would ask for a phone number of the buyer and have a phone conversation about your concerns and maybe push back the pick-up time. Paypal/eBay loves to side with the buyers so you need to cover yourself!

    #4 6 years ago

    I use paypal for small payments or deposits but nothing over $500… Paypal is great for buyers but sucks for sellers… IMO

    #5 6 years ago

    Ask for references - either directly or on here.

    #6 6 years ago
    Quoted from Monster_Bash:

    Don't do it...tell STI to wait. They will

    wtf man. i thought PP was bullet proof. i am going to heed the advice of all of you . I'd rather piss someone off and have them back out than get f_cked.

    #7 6 years ago

    Wait for payment to clear.

    #8 6 years ago

    Have them send a check. That's what I do or get done.

    #9 6 years ago

    Yeah, that payment needs to clear. Do NOT send the game until the money is in your hands.

    Also, be careful because PayPal nearly ALWAYS settles with the buyer...Take LOTS of pictures and make sure everything matches your description.

    #10 6 years ago
    Quoted from MiamiRedSkin:

    Hmm.. I usually keep the game until payment clears but I understand your perdicament. The buyer pays NAVL when the game is delivered.. not when scheduling delivery so you are not out of the weeds yet. I would ask for a phone number of the buyer and have a phone conversation about your concerns and maybe push back the pick-up time. Paypal/eBay loves to side with the buyers so you need to cover yourself!

    Look at this. I sent this a few minutes ago. "Kevin you there? I need to verify shipping with you"

    Response (to another older message): "Hey Rob

    The address Is

    _______________ Drive
    Florissant, MO 63031

    P.S. send me something good"

    There's no reference to the game and there never was. There really were never any bids until this one and he didnt ask questions until after he won and the question was about shipping. WTF was I thinking?

    #11 6 years ago

    i ran into this awhile back.

    iirc, paypal/ebay wants to hold back your payment, until the buyer is happy with item as received.

    i talked with the buyer for a bit on the phone, and told her the money was being held, and she was surprised.

    so, she proceeded to process a satisfied response in ebay, and her action released the funds.

    -1
    #12 6 years ago

    I know there is a big time collector/retailer in Florissant MO. If you PM me the name I can see if your ok with him.

    #13 6 years ago
    Quoted from dantebean:

    I know there is a big time collector/retailer in Florissant MO. If you PM me the name I can see if your ok with him.

    thanks man I just sent it to you

    #14 6 years ago
    Quoted from scott_freeman:

    i ran into this awhile back.
    iirc, paypal/ebay wants to hold back your payment, until the buyer is happy with item as received.
    i talked with the buyer for a bit on the phone, and told her the money was being held, and she was surprised.
    so, she proceeded to process a satisfied response in ebay, and her action released the funds.

    The obvious question is: What if she hadn't posted the positive feedback? What if she posted negative feedback? Where would you be then?

    #15 6 years ago

    The buyer has 0 feedback on ebay. Danger !

    #16 6 years ago

    Did you google map the address? If its not a home address there's a possible red flag. Try and get the buyers phone number and see what you can gauge through a phone call.

    #17 6 years ago
    Quoted from Spitfiren8:

    Did you google map the address? If its not a home address there's a possible red flag. Try and get the buyers phone number and see what you can gauge through a phone call.

    Also, make certain that the home is not currently for sale.

    #18 6 years ago

    One would have to be crazy to let anyone take a machine without the cash in hand....it's a no brainer.....if you let it go a I'm a victim thread will soon follow.... .............Joey

    #19 6 years ago
    Quoted from Breaking_Dad:

    One would have to be crazy to let anyone take a machine without the cash in hand....it's a no brainer.....if you let it go a I'm a victim thread will soon follow.... .............Joey

    I agree wholeheartedly man. Thanks to you guys I didn't do something naive. It was my first ebay transaction on the selling side. I was pretty jacked to get rid of the game so I had the newbie, excitable-pinhead glasses on. I have cancelled the pickup tomorrow. I think I'll go downstairs and cuddle with my F-14 now. Again I can't thank all of you guys enough. I think this is a dirty deal and you saved my ss.

    #20 6 years ago
    Quoted from rcbrown316:

    I agree wholeheartedly man. Thanks to you guys I didn't do something naive. It was my first ebay transaction on the selling side. I was pretty jacked to get rid of the game so I had the newbie, excitable-pinhead glasses on. I have cancelled the pickup tomorrow. I think I'll go downstairs and cuddle with my F-14 now. Again I can't thank all of you guys enough. I think this is a dirty deal and you saved my ss.

    Good thinking....Sad thing is the scams will only get worse!

    #21 6 years ago

    When the buyer has less than (x) amount of transactions through Paypal they will hold the funds for so many days.

    Since this is through ebay / paypal I would feel comfortable you will get paid. I do think you made the right move though. Always wait until funds are fully cleared and in your Paypal account, your account will say "okay to ship."

    #22 6 years ago
    Quoted from Toasterdog:

    When the buyer has less than (x) amount of transactions through Paypal they will hold the funds for so many days.
    Since this is through ebay / paypal I would feel comfortable you will get paid. I do think you made the right move though. Always wait until funds are fully cleared and in your Paypal account, your account will say "okay to ship."

    Sorry, this is VERY bad advice. Google it, search Pinside or RGP. Ebay and PP have tilted the playing field 100% in favor of buyers. When the buyer gets the game and says it is broken, not as described, or isn't even the same game he bought, you are done for. A well know guy sent a NIB BK to a buyer and the buyer put a beat up BK in the box, took pics and the seller lost the whole deal.

    I had 1000+ feedbacks, 100% on ebay, over a 12 year period. I sold an item to a 5 feedback guy, he paid with pp and i shipped it. I got the tracking back, he signed for it. Then he disputes with ebay and pp, said he got an empty box. My tracking showed it weighed 6.5 pounds when it left here. They sided with him, refunded his money. He has the goods, he has the money, and I'm not on ebay anymore.

    #23 6 years ago
    Quoted from JoeGrenuk:

    Sorry, this is VERY bad advice. Google it, search Pinside or RGP. Ebay and PP have tilted the playing field 100% in favor of buyers. When the buyer gets the game and says it is broken, not as described, or isn't even the same game he bought, you are done for. A well know guy sent a NIB BK to a buyer and the buyer put a beat up BK in the box, took pics and the seller lost the whole deal.
    I had 1000+ feedbacks, 100% on ebay, over a 12 year period. I sold an item to a 5 feedback guy, he paid with pp and i shipped it. I got the tracking back, he signed for it. Then he disputes with ebay and pp, said he got an empty box. My tracking showed it weighed 6.5 pounds when it left here. They sided with him, refunded his money. He has the goods, he has the money, and I'm not on ebay anymore.

    Wow. I did cancel the pickup. Again thanks to you guys I didnt lose a 1900 machine. When I go to one of the events and finally meet, you drinks are on me...

    #24 6 years ago

    never ship a game until payment clears or you have cash in hand.

    when I mean clear, wire clears / check clears etc.

    understand now a days, paypal is honestly a crapshoot.

    a case can be opened anytime, most people are legit, and feedback helps, just understand there is always a risk.

    #25 6 years ago

    also paypal sometimes holds big payments 1000 plus to personally review them before they process it.

    it usually is removed within 24 hours. I have seen that too before. totally normal but I would not be doing a thing until smoke clears.

    EDIT ONE MORE THING

    might want to try to sell on here many good people with good reps here.

    #26 6 years ago

    You should have known it was a scam when someone agreed to pay $1900 for an F-14. Was it new in the box?

    #27 6 years ago
    Quoted from maddog14:

    Have them send a check. That's what I do or get done.

    checks take a long time to really "clear"

    #28 6 years ago

    Has anyone ever tried direct deposit to your bank account from the buyer? And is this a safe route?

    #29 6 years ago

    Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing a deal without cash in hand, ever. Unless someone is giving you counterfeit bills, you can't go wrong with cash.

    If a long-distance buyer really wants a machine, I would look into getting a wire transfer or money order.

    #30 6 years ago
    Quoted from pinbum:

    Has anyone ever tried direct deposit to your bank account from the buyer? And is this a safe route?

    Do you mean wire transfer? If so, I've paid for an arcade game that way once. Based on what I learned, it wouldn't have been possible to reverse as the buyer (except possibly in case of fraud.)

    #31 6 years ago

    What i mean is, if buyer has the same bank in there area as the bank you use, seller can give them the routeing number and buyer deposits the price of machine with cash directly into your account. Is this a safe way?

    #32 6 years ago

    I just got an announcement email from PayPal today about a policy change. The dispute window for buyers has now been increased from 45 days to 180 days.

    #33 6 years ago
    Quoted from pinbum:

    What i mean is, if buyer has the same bank in there area as the bank you use, seller can give them the routeing number and buyer deposits the price of machine with cash directly into your account. Is this a safe way?

    Not for the buyer

    #34 6 years ago
    Quoted from t2:

    You should have known it was a scam when someone agreed to pay $1900 for an F-14. Was it new in the box?

    Well I told him it was new in the box but it really wasn't

    1900.00 is what I payed for it because I was new and impatient. The auction was won at 1525.00 though.

    #35 6 years ago
    Quoted from rcbrown316:

    Wow. I did cancel the pickup. Again thanks to you guys I didnt lose a 1900 machine.

    Do you owe fleabay now for the closing fees?

    #36 6 years ago
    Quoted from scott_freeman:

    Do you owe fleabay now for the closing fees?

    no I refunded the guy the pending payment and they didn't charge me anything.

    #37 6 years ago

    I would go on Ebay and go to the site map and check your account balance...

    Just sending a refund does not wipe out the ebay fees, usually the buyer and seller BOTH have to agree the transaction was canceled..

    Personally, I think the end of Ebay is near... all these rule changes to attract more buyers, is just bringing out the scumbags and scammers..

    #38 6 years ago
    Quoted from balboarules:

    I would go on Ebay and go to the site map and check your account balance...
    Just sending a refund does not Wipe Out the ebay fees, usually the buyer and seller BOTH have to agree the transaction was canceled..
    Personally, I think the end of Ebay is near... all these rule changes to attract more buyers, is just bringing out the scumbags and scammers..

    I talked to ebay on the phone during this process. We walked through and confirmed the refund. I also got verbal confirmation that my account would not be charged. Everything is documented in a case with a number. No more ebay for selling machines.

    -3
    #39 6 years ago

    "Well I told him it was new in the box but it really wasn't "

    You might also consider to quit lying about the condition/shape of the machine. Karma happens.

    #40 6 years ago
    Quoted from Out-West:

    You might also consider to quit lying about the condition/shape of the machine. Karma happens.

    Are you kidding? I think your sarcasm-meter is busted or something.

    #41 6 years ago

    Even if the money had cleared your PayPal account and you shipped the machine, the buyer could claim he never received it and obtain a refund through PayPal (which results in a chargeback to you). PayPal requires delivery through one of their approved vendors (USPS, UPS, or FedEx) and a signature if the item is over $250. They will not accept a document from STI/NAVL.

    The best thing to do is list the machine for a higher "Buy It Now" price on eBay in order to get the exposure. Allow buyers to submit a "Best Offer". Work with the buyer to buy the item for cash or money order, outside of eBay. This way you don't pay the 10% eBay fees and you have your money in hand before the game ships.

    #42 6 years ago
    Quoted from tim_sanderson:

    Are you kidding? I think your sarcasm-meter is busted or something.

    Let's give Tim a pass on this one

    #43 6 years ago

    I'm selling a CC to a guy in Australia who was looking for one on here, does this 180 days apply to Paypal transactions outside of ebay?

    #44 6 years ago

    It's big money and I would hate for something bad to happen such as unhappy with god knows what, damaged in shipping, something doesn't work ect?

    #45 6 years ago
    Quoted from patrickvc:

    I'm selling a CC to a guy in Australia who was looking for one on here, does this 180 days apply to Paypal transactions outside of ebay?

    Internet escrow service

    #46 6 years ago
    Quoted from patrickvc:

    I'm selling a CC to a guy in Australia who was looking for one on here, does this 180 days apply to Paypal transactions outside of ebay?

    It's a PayPal change not an ebay change. Ebay is only listed in these discussions because:

    1) ebay owns PayPal
    2) ebay requires PayPal to be a payment option.

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