Was just looking at your pictures. I would enjoy playing those also. Looks awesome.

Ohh, there is now a poll

Where is the ;
"A collection of more than 30 machines should try to represent the history of pinball, thus including all eras of machines and all manufacturers'
Option?

Welcome to the 20th century. Buy what you like. Who cares what anyone else thinks of YOUR collection.

WTF why would anyone want one of those?

You'd only want one if you enjoyed the game of pinball. Otherwise, I'd see no need.

Ask yourself, Odin, whether you would trade dh for a mint Eager Beaver? Or a 3 coins? Then you'll have answered your own question, grasshopper.

You should pick up your buddy's Buccaneer

Nonsense. EM's aren't pinball. EM's are what pinball use to be before there was technology to run any sort of code or before the ramp was invented.

My 4 mbc had a ramp before you born.

Twaffle, EMs are real pinball, relays, motors, chimes, real artwork
Icons are not made with ICs

Scattered around here somewhere.

1 '30s mechanical

2 prewar nudgy (1 with wartime "conversion kit")

2 flipper woodrail

14 plain ol' EM 1962-77 + 1 EM console slot

6 plain ol' SS 1975-85 + 1 SS pitch&bat

1 alphanumeric

1 DMD

I'd prefer it if it were named that. Then there could be a distinction between what's available now vs those age old turds

Asteroids, Super Nintendo, PlayStation etc. Was totally uninterested. (And those old video games suck now also as they've been obsoleted by today's technology).

I don't understand the logic flow in getting here. If you take your crappy EM games with nothing more than pops and targets and nothing else, you don't remove anything to get to games I like. You only add to it. Add some software, ramps and toys. What does that have to do with removing the ball and flippers?

The flow is, you love technology. You don't love pinball. Just admit it, and move on.

I always see the logic of "if you don't love old em games, you must not like pinball!" I find them super boring. They are neat to plunge at a show as I walk by and hit a ball or two, but I wouldnt ever wanna take up space in my house with those. How does this make me not like pinball?

I didn't play pinball in the 70's so I have 0 nostalgia value in pinball for me

No. But any collection should include no less than one pin that goes "Ding".

And yet tons of people flock to bars these days to play these games once again.

I guess it all depends on if one appreciates the roots of design that got us to where we are today.

Because it is pinball. There are periods of pinball I don't like as much as others, but I still like. Because, it's the same game. If you can't see that, then I don't think you like the same game I do. Sorry, but that's how I feel.

A 1967 GTO isn't even a Hybrid, so it's not a real car! Now a new Prius 3, THERE's a car!

*cough* James Bond *cough*

Funny your opinion comes off as fact. Either way, disagree I am forced to like those if I dislike pinball. They are boring. Just as there are many dmd games I like. Don't have to like them all lol

This thread makes me want to go out and play some EM games!

Not to get off topic, but what is that Williams Horse race themed game?

Kinda what I was thinking... La Cucaracha has me intrigued.

It's not an opinion at all: It's the same game, same name and everything.

Some people don't like the Beatles. That's fine if you don't, but you should at the very least appreciate the value they added to western pop music history.

Same thing with EM's. Without the 100 year history of that style of game, you wouldn't have the 35 year history of the games you really like. Appreciate that, and you will begin to understand that the games which entertained people for 100 years didn't stop being entertaining because something new came along.

Exactly the same reason I choose a wife with small hands....

Like Markmon, I grew up playing videogames and didn't even notice pinball until I was in my late 20s. I started with DMDs and wouldn't have anything to do with EMs - I found them boring.

But as I got older, and more into pinball, I learned to appreciate the oddballs, the off-brand games, and even the EMs. When you look at it, especially Sterns, there's not really as much variety in the DMDs as with the older games.

I still "prefer" DMDs but I love me some EMs and early SS, and have all three in my collection currently. You're missing out if you just write off EMs.

I like pinball

"Pinball opinions change with time", as long term collectors explore the history of pinball. They realize more titles that never knew existed and expound their knowledge both on types, design, and manufacturers.

Collectors always start at a reference point of time they know and are comfortable.

There are 1000s of titles that have no archive entries on PinSide. I would like to add more information.

People go always go, "Wow, I did not know that existed"!

The pinball hobby process always follows the same time line.

Playing-->Collecting-->Restoring-->Hoarding

Some people stop at certain periods, some progress forward, some get out and move on.
"Collector choice".

This is different than what you had said earlier. I appreciate and respect those games exist as they have led to the evolution of what I like to play today. I still don't find them fun or having any lastability with me.

Then I contend you don't like pinball. You like whatever pinball has become. O-din calls it "ramp ball". That's what you like.