Since I can't seem to find a database of which shooter spring strengths/colors are correct for which machines, I thought a thread for it might come in handy (thanks to Jeroen for the idea). What do you guys think?
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Quoted from j_m_:sounds like a good idea to me, but I thought that most of the manuals called out the proper shoot rod string by color?
eg. from the cftbl manualhttp://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/10-148-4
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You are defiantly right, if you have a manual.
Round Rock, TX
Not all manuals include that info either. I just checked out my Earthshaker and Pinbot manuals, and no mention is made of the shooter spring. Possibly that info was only included starting with WPC games? No idea about older Bally/Williams/Stern/Gottlieb/Data East/Sega manuals, but I tend to doubt it.
BTW75, I checked the "blue" catalog at Planetary Pinball pretty closely but couldn't find that info, what page do you see it on?
Whatever the case, I just thought this would be a handy place for it, so if anyone wants to chime in with a list, or link to a webpage, here's your place.
EDIT - my mistake, there it is on pg 81. Surprisingly they left at least one machine out though.
Quoted from jibmums:Not all manuals include that info either. I just checked out my Earthshaker and Pinbot manuals, and no mention is made of the shooter spring. Possibly that info was only included starting with WPC games? No idea about older Bally/Williams/Stern/Gottlieb/Data East/Sega manuals, but I tend to doubt it.
BTW75, I checked the "blue" catalog at Planetary Pinball pretty closely but couldn't find that info, what page do you see it on?
Whatever the case, I just thought this would be a handy place for it, so if anyone wants to chime in with a list, or link to a webpage, here's your place.
EDIT - my mistake, there it is on pg 81. Surprisingly they left at least one machine out though.
Yeah - its weird how things are organized. There are two charts for lots of parts.
Well, here's a start. All info from the Williams "blue" catalog.
WILLIAMS SYSTEM 9-11
Banzai Run: 10-148-4 green spring
Big Guns: 10-148-4 green spring
Comet: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Cyclone: 10-148-4 green spring
F14 Tomcat: 10-148-2 red spring
Fire: 10-148-4 green spring
Grand Lizard: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
High Speed: 10-148-2 red spring
Millionaire: 10-148-3 blue spring
Pinbot: 10-148-3 blue spring
Road Kings: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Sorcerer: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Space Shuttle: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Space Station: 10-148-5 (color?)
Swords of Fury: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Taxi: 10-148-2 red spring
I notice a few anomalies, like Marco's site having SoF listed as a 10-148-2, so just use this as a guideline. A number of Sys11 games were missing from the catalog, so if you know the correct spring for your game, please add to the list.
From Williams "red" catalog.
WILLIAMS SYSTEM 11
Bad Cats: 10-148-4 green spring
Bride of Pinbot: 10-148-3 blue spring
Diner: 10-148-3 blue spring
Funhouse: 10-148-1 standard silver spring & 10-148-4 green spring
Hurricane: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Riverboat Gambler: 10-148-4 green spring
Rollergames: 10-148-2 red spring
Whirlwind: 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Quoted from jibmums:Well, here's a start. All info from the Williams "blue" catalog.
\A number of Sys11 games were missing from the catalog, so if you know the correct spring for your game, please add to the list.
Strangely, on page 2-0 you'll find others
Jokerz 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Police Force 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Earthshaker 10-148-2 red spring
Black Knight 10-148-2 red spring
Damn I wish I'd seen that. I >just< placed a PBL order for Earthshaker stuff this afternoon. Grrrrr!
Quoted from jibmums:Damn I wish I'd seen that. I >just< placed a PBL order for Earthshaker stuff this afternoon. Grrrrr!
OOPS! I thought we covered that in another thread this afternoon already - must have been someone else asking.
I've had good luck making another order at PBL then sending a note in to them and they combine and refund shipping.
2 years later
I don't see spring info for Stern games listed anywhere. Maybe in a parts manual, but I don't have one.
Melbourne
1 year later
Quoted from btw75:Strangely, on page 2-0 you'll find others
Jokerz 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Police Force 10-148-1 standard silver spring
Earthshaker 10-148-2 red spring
Black Knight 10-148-2 red spring
thanks
Good thread. FYI, from pinballlife:
Spring tension from lowest to highest:
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Blue (266-5001-05)
Green (266-5001-04)
Standard (10-148-1)
Orange (266-5001-07)
Purple (266-5001)
Red (10-148-2)
7 months later
Quoted from jibmums:Space Station: 10-148-5 (color?)
Note: Space Station's spring was yellow.
This spring was the strongest heavy duty spring.
Quoted from jeffc:Spring tension from lowest to highest:
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Blue (266-5001-05)
Green (266-5001-04)
Standard (10-148-1)
Orange (266-5001-07)
Purple (266-5001)
Red (10-148-2)
yellow ( 10-148-5)
10 months later
Still no older Stern details? Does anyone have a clue which spring an original Stern "Stars" would use? I'm trying to keep my latest restore near original.
Quoted from AgentX:Still no older Stern details? Does anyone have a clue which spring an original Stern "Stars" would use? I'm trying to keep my latest restore near original.
From Williams chart... it would be the neutral silver spring...
10-148-1
4 months later
This might explain why i can't make it all the way round the earthshaker spiral skill shot on my restoration!!! could not figure out what was wrong!
Quoted from russdx:This might explain why i can't make it all the way round the earthshaker spiral skill shot on my restoration!!! could not figure out what was wrong!
I did a mod ... for the plastic spiral... I had to add a flat head machine screw to the two pieces of plastic to tighten up the spiral... then added a piece of clear Mylar adhesive to make the wall joint as smooth has possible.
The end result... made the ball fly out of the spiral like "a bat out of hell".
4 years later
Nice thread ,I was just looking for spring strengths when this thread popped up this chart was very useful .I purchased this Shooter from Bill at Super Skill Shots .It’s a real incect in Amber .Looks insane in person .Had a green spring in (started only making the ramp 33%)then went to standard and that was the right call .
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