Pompano Beach, FL
Hi,
Maybe a stupid question here but I just powder coated my shooter rod. It seems to have gained some size. The shooter sleeve is not fitting now. Is it truly necessary to use a shooter sleeve? Any answers are appreciated.
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Quoted from o-din:Is it truly necessary to have a powder coated shooter rod?
It does look cool man. Didn't realize it would add so much size to the diameter.
Quoted from Nokoro:This is going to be the most awesome thread this year. YES we need pics! And, yes, you need a shooter tip.
Lol!! Sleeve not tip.
Quoted from Rob_G:I think you have a nice new shelf ornament.
Rob
Fits through the housing. Only issue is sleeve.
Quoted from Gnatty:I've heard it all, why in the hell would you powdercoat the rod? Now you know your answer, yes you need a sleeve and now you need another rod.
To match the rest of the powder coated parts. Well if I need it I guess I just need to find something that's similar that will fit. Open up your minds and you can find a solution to almost anything.
Quoted from Travish:Get a dowel rod and wrap really fine sand paper around it and run it through the sleeve until if fits. Wash it out with dawn dish detergent and a wet paper towel.
See... this is what I've been waiting for. Someone with actual solutions to a problem. Thank you Travish!!
Gonna post a pic tonight fellas. I think I can make it work but if worse comes to worse I could always just ask my powder coater to strip the actual rod portion.
Quoted from MK6PIN:?????....think this pic will prove to validate " a picture worth a thousand words" saying....I'm officially very confused now...
I don't know man. People want to see a pic so I'm gonna give them one.
Quoted from Mfsrc791:Probably not going to work. Just imagine powder coating your own shaft and tip. Would that work?
If I could I would. Love me some powder coating.
Quoted from woody76:looks good and will hold up way longer than brass ever will.
Finally, someone who likes my powder coating madness. Thank you sir!!
Quoted from 0geist0:Be cool if it would glow in the dark. lol
Where there's a will there's a way...
Quoted from Dayhuff:I think you should get the leg bolts done as well. I'm sure that it wont come off when you screw them into the cabinet. And just think how cool it would look on the inside of the cabinet when you open it up to show others the threads that are sticking out and that you actually did it. Might as well go all out, right?
John
I think some individuals on this thread are jealous of my rod. It's all new, shiny and fresh. Theirs is probably all old and worn out. The ladies love my new rod. Get off my rod fellas!!
Quoted from Nokoro:I think that shooter rod looks pretty awesome. I think you need to find a way to make this work.
Thanks bud!! Definitely gonna try and make it work.
Quoted from jwilson:That is the stupidest thing I've seen on Pinside in, like, a year.
Almost as good as the guy who clearcoated the back of his game.
What makes it stupid? I wanted the end ball of the shooter rod to match the rest of the powder coated parts. So the whole thing was powder coated. Tell me why that is so stupid buddy?
Quoted from Marvin:if you can't tell why it's stupid by looking at it, or by seeing that the parts no longer fit together, you're beyond the point where explaining it will make you understand.
So just because one little plastic sleeve doesn't fit that's what makes it stupid?? You weren't the best problem solver in school, were you?? I can easily get a sleeve made via a 3D printer. I was thinking about just stripping the shaft down to original but now that I see some of these comments I'm gonna make it work to show some individuals on here how to use their minds and be creative.
Quoted from ForceFlow:Form over function--cosmetics have taken precedence over how it is supposed to operate, and impedes its ability to operate correctly.
Tell me how it won't operate properly?
Quoted from ForceFlow:You won't find one. You changed the dimensions of the parts.
I'll find one. I'm determined to make this simple part work the way I need it to.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Yup. That's why he's gonna have to bore out the shooter housing hole and make it larger.
It's gonna get uglier before it gets prettier.
Unlike you guys who are in the pointing and laughing business, I'm in the problem solving business.
LET'S DO THIS!
Like your style brother!!
Quoted from Nokoro:I don't know why everyone is so negative on the OP. He tried something and wants to see if he can make it work. It's not like he powder coated his whole machine and made it completely inoperable. He just did the shooter rod. If this works out, it could look really cool. If it doesn't work out, no big deal. He'll get another shooter rod and housing.
Now to help: How thick is powder coating anyway? About 1/10 of a mm? He should be able to fix the inside of the housing with a drill bit to remove the coating from that area. Then, if he can 3D print a slightly larger sleeve or gently sand out 1/10 of a mm of the inside of the standard sleeve, he might just get this to work.
I, for one, applaud the effort.
Thanks Nokoro. I feel like these dudes are just waiting to pounce on someone that does something against the grain. I have another rod that I can easily install but what fun is that?? I'm glad I created a semi entertaining thread here.
Quoted from darcangeloel:I feel like this is something we could pretty easily 3d print. Let me know if you need help creating the stl file for this. I also have a robo 3d r2 if we want to give it a few test prints
Thanks Darcangeloel!! I think that might sound like a plan.
I know some guys just don't give a you know what about the overall cosmetics and just care about gameplay. I personally enjoy both aspects. I believe that these machines are somewhat works of art that can be personalized with mods, powder coats, etc... I will always aim to make my games unique. Whether it's creating my own mod or powder coating parts nobody else would powder coat. It opens up an additional fun factor for me. I believe the rod looks awesome and there's nothing that anybody can say to make me feel different. Now if I get it to work, that's another story. I believe I can but if not, it still made for a pretty good thread. 
Quoted from o-din:Have no fear, o-din is here.
Since you only wanted the end ball to match, take the shaft part to a wire wheel and remove the paint only on it.
Then you will have the painted ball you desire, and the function you require.
Was thinking about stripping paint but that's a last resort at this point. It's gonna be good times getting this to work. No turning back. 
Quoted from jwilson:I mean, I understand you think it's awesome and all, but I'm sure the guy who did this thought it was awesome too.
That's awesome!!
Quoted from Nokoro:I don't think the OP is ignoring advice. His question was do you need a shooter sleeve. The answer was yes. He is now trying to see if he can make this work in some way with the shooter sleeve. What he is ignoring is all the people who called him stupid and said that this will never work. It may be the case that this will never work, but he has already powder coated the rod, so he might as well try at this point. It's not like he was asking IF he should powder coat the rod. He already did. Having done it, why not try it? The worst that will happen is that it won't work, in which case he has a back-up clean rod and housing ready to install. I'm not sure why there is so much hostility to the OP in this thread. It's his game. Let him powder coat what he wants.
Damn, I'm kinda surprised this thing is still going. Lmao!! Thank you Nokoro for letting these dimwits know exactly what I was thinking. Indeed, I asked if I needed a sleeve. Simple question. Answer was yes. Now my next step is creating a sleeve that will fit on the (I gotta say it because for some reason it bothers people) very nicely powder coated SHOOTER ROD. I find it sweet that some of you guys really care that much to tell me that powder coating a little f'n shooter rod is sooooo stupid over and over and over again. I kinda got it when the first guy said it... I know, I should have told the powder coater to not coat the shaft. Oh well, it's done. I could very easily go back and get the shaft stripped but I never back down from a challenge. And since most of the people that have posted on here think it can't be done, I will try to prove otherwise. As of now the game is up and running with back up but I'm still working on a solution for my very finely powder coated SHOOTER ROD. Oh yea boys. Come on say how stupid it is again. I like it!!
Quoted from Mbecker:Lol you took the abuse pretty well, I enjoy the humor - good luck with your quest to sleeve your shooter! I do agree that you lost a lot of the slickness of the bare metal but as pointed out.. on TOM it doesn't matter much. Interested to see your final solution. Could wrap thin teflon around shooting housing hole?
I appreciate it man. I'm not easily rattled. Been called alot worse than stupid in my lifetime. Lol!! It's all in good fun. After all, pinball is just a game. We're all here to have fun so keep on powder coating baby!!
How does Jonny Golden Rod sound for my new Pinside ID??
Quoted from Bam:Has anyone recommended just going ahead and try powdercoating the powdercoating? Maybe it will make the rod larger and sleeve smaller?
You're a genius man!!! 
Quoted from Brewchap:I'm thinking that it will make a great porn name
Jonny Golden Rod in Pinballs Deep!! I can see it now. Who wants to fund this project??
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