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Shipping options for games


By ForceFlow

1 year ago



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    Post #1 Fastenal, Michelle Bianchi, Ray (Games on the Go) Posted by ForceFlow (1 year ago)

    Post #3 Inxpress pinball shipper Posted by nman (1 year ago)

    Post #6 Inxpress Contact info Posted by ForceFlow (1 year ago)

    Post #7 Fast Eddie (Northeast US) Posted by BobLangelius (1 year ago)


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    #1 1 year ago

    Someone asked me recently about possible shipping options for games. Since the information is scattered, I thought I would pull it together.

    Fastenal has palletized shipping from store-to-store for around $125-$250, but there's no insurance when a game is just strapped to a pallet. Also, whether or not a store can help pack and strap to a pallet sounds like it would depend upon the store, so call ahead to inquire. I haven't heard anyone report any problems with using this method for shipping a game, but I probably wouldn't want to risk it with an expensive or exceptionally nice game. A game can be insured if it is crated.

    https://www.fastenal.com/en/22/3pl-(third-party-logistics)

    Michelle Bianchi arranges shipping and can be in the neighborhood of $350-$600. There's shipping depots in various cities if you want to see if shipping to the depot for pick-up is cheaper/faster than directly to you door. A handful of people have posted threads about damage to games to varying degrees (bent legs, gouged and damaged cabinets), but I don't how frequently that is actually an issue. NAVL/STI is used as the shipper.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/michelle-bianchi-update-aug-8-2016

    There's a guy who transports games from place to place on the east coast for about $300, but there can be along wait time until he can arrange enough games to make a trip worthwhile for him: Ray Starego with Games on the Go. It might be worthwhile to check if he has any trips planned if you need to ship a game.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/games-on-the-move-transportationdelivery-service
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-machine-shipper-shipping-referral-option

    There was another possible shipping option I read about within the last few weeks, but I can't recall or find the details for that one since I don't really ship games and it was only posted once.

    Does anyone have any other shipping options they have used or have heard of?

    #2 1 year ago

    Thanks for this post, valuable information here.

    #3 1 year ago

    Haven't used these guys (deal fell through), but the quote i got was pretty good:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/biz/directory/1168-inxpress-pinball-shipper

    #4 1 year ago

    I just saw on fastenal's site that they will insure a shipment if it is crated. They will not insure a shipment that is only strapped to a pallet.

    #5 1 year ago

    I have used Michelle 3 times (4 games) , no issues yet, about to do another from Cali to Tx
    Always $450, because I live in the middle of nowhere. Can’t find another company who will deliver to me

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    #6 1 year ago

    Found the thread about the shipping option that I made reference about being posted only once before:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/found-a-great-shipping-resource

    #8 1 year ago

    What sucks with STI is if they destroy your game (total loss) they will only pay 65% of the value of it. I found that out the hard way.

    I have a guy that runs Albany NY area -> Buffalo back to CT for about $175. He runs on Saturday...I've used him twice and he hasn't let me down yet.

    I've used fast Eddie also.. great guy and even better service

    #9 1 year ago

    Whatever happened to Jaybird815 and Midwest shipping?

    #10 1 year ago

    I kno these guys, they do a good job. Real good fellas....

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    #11 1 year ago

    Thanks forceflow for creating this topic, long overdue!

    #12 1 year ago

    I work in a retail environment and have to ship things (engines, transmissions etc.) all the time. I use Unishippers quite often. Bids go out to all relative trucking companies and can have a quote within 2 minutes. All you have to do is type in the relevant information and BOOM!!, quote back with or without insurance. Most of the time what i see is that R&L is the less expensive out of all of the companies with prices ranging in the $200-$300 range with insurance even on pins. Got a quote for my brother on a pin from northern Indiana to East Tennessee is how i know.

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from Monster_Bash:

    What sucks with STI is if they destroy your game (total loss) they will only pay 65% of the value of it. I found that out the hard way.
    I have a guy that runs Albany NY area -> Buffalo back to CT for about $175. He runs on Saturday...I've used him twice and he hasn't let me down yet.
    I've used fast Eddie also.. great guy and even better service

    If the game was fully insured with STI what was their reason for not fully covering the game?

    #14 1 year ago

    It was fully insured. Their policy is 65%... which obviously i didn't know.

    Quoted from Concretehardt:

    If the game was fully insured with STI what was their reason for not fully covering the game?

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    #15 1 year ago

    Oh snap, how bad was the damage?

    #16 1 year ago

    I've had 4 Pins delivered through STI/NAVL. Never had an issue, but it ALWAYS takes them 10 days to deliver, and price was always in the 450.00 range.

    #17 1 year ago

    It was a Genie...they folded the head down basically destroying the back of the game. Displays were broken and they torn the leg out of the back right through the game. The front of the cab was separated as well. The power supply no longer was putting out 5V..thus the game wouldn't boot

    I'm working on getting the game back together.

    Shipping was $425ish if I remember..their payout of $650 barely covered that. I am lucky that it wasn't a higher end game...I should be able to make it playable again. But the point is...are you willing to take 65% on a high end game that they destroy? I know I'm not willing to go that.

    Quoted from Concretehardt:

    Oh snap, how bad was the damage?

    #18 1 year ago

    I have never shipped a game but was doing some research and was told about this website, https://www.uship.com/. Seems like it might be a good option as long as you know that the game is being properly packaged for shipment by the seller for pick up. It lets you put in the info and gives you a quote and gives you a name your own price option too.

    #19 1 year ago

    Never use a carrier's offered insurance, because they will always find a way to not pay out the insured value.

    Use a real insurance company that covers coin-op collectables.

    https://collectinsure.com/

    #20 1 year ago

    Any shipper from SC to New England?
    Besides the big boys etc STI.

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    #21 1 year ago

    For posterity I am going to summarize my experience to save others time.

    UShip- works great to get bids if pin within a few hours of you. Can’t find a shipper for an across country shipment. Gave up even though claimed average price for 4 pins from Albuquerque to Virginia was only $800. As one shipper told me that price only holds if they can find a load to also haul back.

    Fastenal - quoted 4 pins from Albuquerque to Virginia $400 total ! Problem was very nice pinsider couldn’t get the last mile carry over to Fastenal. The local store doesn’t palletize. We were stuck. Found someone local to deliver but that added $300 to the bill ($75 per pallet) ! Crossed this option off list but wow they are the way to go if you can make it work.

    Freight companies - first, you have to choose right freight class. This gets computed by pallet length, width, pin height in pallet, divided into pin weight to get density. Pins about 250 lbs, pallets about 3.5 ft x 3.5 ft, height about 4.5 ft. This matters. If density less than 4 lbs per cubic foot class 250, 4 to 7 class 125 (typical), > 7 class 100. Oddly class 100 is cheaper than class 250.

    Second you get your quotes. Online consolidator quotes (freight center, freightquote) are great but I’ve found that there are massive differences versus calling. They negotiate down ALOT. Online quote is like the car sticker price I’ve found. Quoted initially $2000 ! With phone call $750. And that wasn’t just one consolidator but all of them.

    Pallet - for freight you have to have a pallet. Forget it otherwise and just go with mover like NAVL. But freight shipper will be significantly cheaper. You can sometimes get pallets from Lowe’s. Fastenal sometimes will give them out. Tie downs from harbor freight or Lowe’s. It’s pretty straightforward to load on pallet.

    delivery - if they need a lift gate on pickup due to no loading dock it’s another $100. Same at delivery. Pickup at shipper terminal will save you $100. Business address versus residential another $75 saved. I’ll go grab them at the terminal to make it easier.

    Insurance - Fastenal no insurance unless crated. Other will give insurance about $75 to $100 if used game for $3k of insurance. High deductible

    I’m relating all this because it was my first time and I didn’t see all options fully summarized as well as strategies for lower cost.

    4 months later
    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Never use a carrier's offered insurance, because they will always find a way to not pay out the insured value.
    Use a real insurance company that covers coin-op collectables.
    https://collectinsure.com/

    I don't have experience with claims so far using them, but note that this DOESN'T cover a collector who bought something and is being shipped, since it's not yet in your possession. This is not a way to insure when being shipped, unless you are a dealer and buy a dealer policy. At that point, it still doesn't cover a freight carrier unless you (a Dealer) were transporting to and from a show or location, etc.

    IMO There is no good shipping insurance option when you buy something. You just hope it gets there in one piece.

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    #24 10 months ago

    Fast Eddie is the best if you are on the east coast.

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    #25 10 months ago

    This probably will get everyone's eyes rolling, but I recently had an interesting deal where I originally thought I was able to get a basket case pin hauled from OR to So Cal via friends but it proved that option wasn't going to pan out. I then put a post up on pinside for a couple of days. However, that came up dry and I was about to politely bow out from the deal. Then the seller asked if I had ever used Craigslist for shipping a pin. First, I didn't know Craigslist even had a section for such, and second I had no idea how to put such a transaction together. The seller put a post on his local Craigslist and in 24 hours the deal was struck and about a week later the hauler had the machine within 40 miles of my place for about 1/5 the price of NAVL.

    Of course I'd NEVER consider shipping a pin of "real" value this way. However there are times where maybe it would make the difference between a go or no-go deal. I'd probably do it again if the circumstances were right.

    #26 10 months ago

    A few recent shipments of multiple games brought the cost down to $200-$225 each.
    Wichita to Orlando, as an example. Done with Michelle, Everything Perfect.
    No Claims or issues yet, over many years, maybe 25 shipments.

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    #27 9 months ago
    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    Done with Michelle, Everything Perfect. No Claims or issues yet, over many years, maybe 25 shipments.

    Michelle at which company?

    #28 9 months ago
    Quoted from grimholtz:

    Michelle at which company?

    Michelle Bianchi
    Beltmann Integrated Logistics
    630-352-3312
    877-432-2646
    866-651-5919(fax)

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