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Shangri-Blah to Shangri-La!


By mrm_4

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

This isn’t necessarily a restoration thread although I’m restoring some of this machine. But more of a depository for before and after pics and for me to throw some questions out around bringing my first EM (with flippers)up to par.

I got a partially working Shangri-La for a fare price in April but it needs quite a bit of work.
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#2 1 year ago

The playfield has quite a bit of wear and some scratches. And the left side of plastics are a mess. Been hunting for them pretty aggressively.

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#3 1 year ago

Currently the game is on free play and all the switches, wiring and mechs are missing from the door. I was able to pick up a replacement door in Allentown during pinfest so I’ll rebuild/rewire a door.

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#4 1 year ago

Pulled the playfield and mech board to start cleaning. This project has finally pushed me to build a rotisserie. The playfield and shooter lane is pretty filthy.

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#6 1 year ago

For the moment all I’m going to do is clean this the best I can. The flippers need rebuilt and rewired. Major mess down there. Also going to add new plastic for the pop bumpers. I’m surprised these pieces came out without snapping on me.

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#7 1 year ago

The playfield cleaned up really nice minus the flipper area and the heavy scratches. I actually like the beat up look of it. Even though I’d rather paint it and clear it to look like new, this antique feel is growing on me.
Some of these pics just show the difference after cleaning because I did it in portions.
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#8 1 year ago

After cleaning the posts and plastics, putting on new rubbers and new pop bumpers, I’m starting to see a nice looking game. Well half of it anyway due to plastics.

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#9 1 year ago

Made new instruction cards and a new manufacturers label. I came across an apron decal in Allentown so I sanded down the apron and painted it. Looks pretty sweet.

Also painted the under side of the arch to help reflect the lights.

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#10 1 year ago

Under the playfield the relay bank had several bent switches, the stacks of switches on the score motor were bent all out of whack and because of the shape of the PF I’m guessing someone dropped this PF into the cabinet. Made some adjustments on the mech board and cleaned up the steppers. Found a burnt up coil in the relays. So glad Marcos has a replacement.

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#11 1 year ago

Threw everything back into the cabinet. And it’s working!
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#12 1 year ago

I love the backglass on this game. It’s in pretty good condition. Only one little spot of flaking. I’m going to clear the back and touch up the paint.

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Wish I could go back in time and tell myself to not spray the back with clear.
Spoiler: I screwed up this back glass

#13 1 year ago

Looks real nice. I wonder if the original cabinet paint is hiding under the white?

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Looks real nice. I wonder if the original cabinet paint is hiding under the white?

I’m torn on if I should strip the paint to see or just repaint it. Ive been making stencils for another project so that’s been influencing me to go the new paint route with this one.

#15 1 year ago

I think the big thing I’m gonna tackle (for me anyway) is rewiring a coin door. Thanks to Rolf I have this awesome diagram to help me out!

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#16 11 months ago

This is what happens. Crack a beer, start unscrewing one piece, then another, then another.....
This used to be a coin door.
I guess I’ll soak all this in evaporust and do a proper door restoration. Haha all I wanted to do was rewire this thing

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#17 11 months ago

Ummm.... well.....
Hmmm

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#18 11 months ago

rolf_martin_062 I’m using your instructions to rewire my door. However I’m thinking there are some differences. I’m not sure our switches are the same or if mine are fully intact. The one switch on the lock side has 2 pads for soldering and the one on the hinge side has 3 pads. Also I notice that I have coil on mine that pulls a bar to allow coins to pass through the mechs. Any thoughts?

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#19 11 months ago

Hi mrm_4
I have read Your post-18 --- first (to work on) I pick Your (post-18) "coil that pulls a bar to allow coins to pass" --- this goodie looks like a relay - but per definition what a relay*** is: This goodie is not a relay, so it is called "Coin Lockout Coil". For a schematics "Shangri La" I do only have the ipdb-schematics --- I did search the whole schematics - I do NOT find drawn the "Coin Lockout Coil" in the ipdb-schematics. Right now I will work on a solution "something like Jolly Roger solution" - but I need some time to do the (JPG) drawing. In this time You, please search Your schematics for a drawing of "Coin Lockout Coil" (and write about Your findings).

relay***: A relay is a goodie that has at least one switch mounted to switch-on or switch-off a circuitry for electricity to flow. We know many relays having many switches --- the "Gate-Goodie" IS a relay (it has one switch to feed itself Self-Hold-Current) - so it is the Gate-RELAY.
The Coin-Lockout-Coil has NO switch - therefore it is not a relay - it is (just) a coil. (((And actually I would like to have it called "STOP-Coin-Lockout Coil"))). Greetings Rolf

P.S.:My Shangri La has NOT mounted an Coin-Lockout-Coil.

#20 11 months ago

Well if this game doesn’t have the lock out feature I’ll just bend the hinge so it holds the plate in.

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#21 11 months ago

Outside of the coin lock out issue everything else works! I dropped it in to test and all is operational. Just need to find a Jones plug.
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Thanks for your help Rolf!

#22 11 months ago

Hi mrm_4
the following writing is written not knowing post-20 and post-21.

It will be by tomorrow when I will write again --- (a little joke) maybe You do not find the drawing of Coin-Lockout-Coil in Your schematics and You say "want to have all original so I (You) do not wire the coin lockout coil - I (You) maybe take away the coil".
(((Everything else we may do is not original - may need some newly added switches))).
It is Saturday-Evening - I do not really feel like working on pins - till tomorrow, greetings Rolf

#23 11 months ago
Quoted from rolf_martin_062:

Hi mrm_4
the following writing is written not knowing post-20 and post-21.
It will be by tomorrow when I will write again --- (a little joke) maybe You do not find the drawing of Coin-Lockout-Coil in Your schematics and You say "want to have all original so I (You) do not wire the coin lockout coil - I (You) maybe take away the coil".
(((Everything else we may do is not original - may need some newly added switches))).
It is Saturday-Evening - I do not really feel like working on pins - till tomorrow, greetings Rolf

No problem Rolf enjoy your weekend!!!
Thanks

#24 11 months ago

Hi mrm_4
this post is about the Coin-Lockout-Coil, toggling-on and -off the pin and Safety, Attention, Danger (Shangri-La and other old 2-inch flipperbat pins).
See the first JPG - we unplug the main power cord - then plug-in. DANGER - along "my drawn red" lines / wires there is 110VAC-Power ready to flow ! We better do not touch a solder-lug there as we may make a connection through our body to ground / earth - and we may get killed.
My "red lines" all end at a open switch - internal in the pin current does not flow, the pin looks like toggled-off. At my "red AA" the electrons (110VAC-Power) are waiting for a switch to close so the electrons can flow to the transformer to produce 6VAC and 24VAC. See at my BB: The switches on the Coin-Slots handle 110VAC, when a switch closes: One of the "my CC" relays pulls-in. Danger - how many people open the Coin-Door on a Shangri La (or other old pins) and fumble on the Coin-Switches to coin-up or start a game --- do they know that they are touching line-Current ?
O.K. - throwing-in a coin makes one of the "my BB" switches to close - one of "my CC" relays fires - this closes one of "my AA" switches - the 110VAC-electrons can pass , reach the transformer, 24VAC and 6VAC is produced - the pin lights-up (my DD). Also the Lock-Relay (my EE) pulls-in, establishes Self-Hold-Current, stay pulling --- see "my red * at AA" - this closed switch on the Lock-Relay feeds 110VAC-Current to the transformer - forever. Somewhat "by the way" the Game-Over-Relay (my FF) is made to trip.

Instead of throwing-in a coin into a "just plugged-in but looking toggled-off" Shangri La we can press the left flipper-button - the switch at AA closes - DD, EE and FF happens - the switch "**" on the Game-Over-Relay does close, stays closed - we then can press the Replay- / Start-Button (my GG) to start a new game.
mrm_4 see, the Shangri La does not need a Coin-Lockout-Coil - the Shangri La just must be plugged-in - we then can throw-in a coin or press the left flipper-button, then press the Credit-Button and we are ready to play.

We play and play - then say: Enough played --- hmm, there is no Main Power Switch so we unplug the main power cord.
There is also a funny feature (instead of unplugging the main power cord) --- the so-called "Kickoff-Switch, my red ***". See the second JPG - there at "my black B" we see this Kickoff-Switch --- at "my black C" I have taken away the cover and the switch - we see a bolt, the bolt, normally resting down on the plywood, underside of the cabinet. When we bang upwards with a fist exactly at this place: The bolt jumps up, opens the Kickoff-Switch - the pulling Lock-Relay let go and the transformer looses connection - the pin looks like toggled-off - it is toggled-off - only "along my red lines in the first JPG": 110VAC is at hand, ready to flow.

The Coin-Lockout-Coil not only has to do with "pin toggled-off or -on" - also "when maximum on the Replay-Counter is reached, cannot coin-up any higher" - also "when the Score-Motor is busy - turning for another feature --- see the upper part of the third JPG (Jolly Roger). We could try to implement "Jolly Roger logic" into "Shangri La logic" - but my advice is "lets have the Shangri La "as is, original" - no Coin-Lockout-Coil mounted - or an existing coil un-connected, we use commom sense when throwing-in coins. Greetings Rolf

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#25 11 months ago

Going to create a stencil for the cab. I’m pretty impressed with how much geometry was hidden in this simple design.

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#26 11 months ago

Ok the single template didn’t work because the shapes get wider and shorter from back to front. So I had to grid out and draw each shape to make it true to the original design

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#27 10 months ago

Got a free Jones plugs from smohr so now my coin door is ready to go!

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#28 10 months ago

Started painting the cab. I’m just filling some of the larger dents and then laying down so heavy coats of primer. I’m not going to try to make this look 100% it’s more of a practice pin for me, really.

I’m loving Ace Hardwares brand of paint I wish they offered more colors.

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#29 10 months ago

Decided to go with these colors for the stencils. Probably not true to the original but they look awesome to me.

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#30 10 months ago

Wet sanded the side rails and cleaned up some legs I found at Allentown.

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#31 10 months ago

Final side done. Gonna attempt to do the interior tomorrow.

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#32 10 months ago

Laid down the spatter today. And painted the head. Also did the black trim. Stencils are next. Decided not to go all out and paint the inside of everything. Too lazy I guess.

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#33 10 months ago

Laying down the magenta tonight on the corners since I had a little daylight left.

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#34 10 months ago

One stencil done

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#35 10 months ago

Nicely done. I always admire the work done on cabs. BTW, the splatter job you did looks real nice and natural-like factory. Does the splatter go on the stencils as well?

#36 10 months ago
Quoted from phergott:

Nicely done. I always admire the work done on cabs. BTW, the splatter job you did looks real nice and natural-like factory. Does the splatter go on the stencils as well?

Thanks!
As far as I can tell the spatter is just on the base coat. The colors don’t get it. I may be wrong but from what I’ve seen it doesn’t.

#37 10 months ago

Hard part is done for the stripe. The rest of them will hopefully be easier

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#38 10 months ago

I’ll take it!

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#39 10 months ago

Left side and front are done

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#40 10 months ago

I love making stencils but the geometry makes my brain hurt. This will be used for the head.

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#41 10 months ago

Finished my least favorite part.... spray painting.
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#42 10 months ago

Looking just fine, keep it up!

#43 10 months ago

Yeah that is looking really good!

#44 10 months ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Looking just fine, keep it up!

Quoted from Xenon75:

Yeah that is looking really good!

Thanks guys!

#45 9 months ago

I broke down and just painted the inside. Excited to start putting it back together.

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#46 9 months ago

Brought the cab inside and started to throw things back in it.

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#47 9 months ago

Pretty happy with the spatter effect I did especially compared to the original of the playfield rails.

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#48 9 months ago

Well I did it. I brought this thing back to life...

Just need some plastics and a door for the backbox

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#49 9 months ago

I see you painted the apron, where did you find the artwork for the apron? Is it a sticker or did you paint it on somehow?

#50 9 months ago
Quoted from pinball419:

I see you painted the apron, where did you find the artwork for the apron? Is it a sticker or did you paint it on somehow?

Found the sticker at Allentown, cant remember the guys name but he had one for like $5. Perfect timing i guess

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