Hi everyone, Im planning to start liquidating my collection over the coming weeks. Ive reached out to people and had some interest but dont know ton about what the value of the games i have is these days. Theyve asked for prices but im hesitant to give a number before checking to see whats fair for both parties. Ive been buying NiB games for the last few years and havent really spent much time exploring the secondary market, curious to get some feedback from the pinside community on what some fair starting asking prices are for the games in my collection. Not looking to gouge anyone and not looking to give anything away, just want to get fair market value for my games and to work deals where both parties can walk away happy. Ive made a list of the games along with mods and extras, and here is a google drive link with a couple quick pics of each machine to get an idea of overall quality/condition/aesthetic, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByfHiVxZnjTyblk2UTFmYzJzOW8

1: Star Trek Premium ; Mods: Laseriffic topper, Mirror blades, Flipper toppers, Colored Plastic Protectors, Shaker motor, Full Aurich alternate translite/alternate art package, Mezel warp flasher domes, Speaker Grill Acrylic ; Extras/ Mods Not Installed: Signed Steve Richie Original Whitewood (won at Pagg auction), Cliffys for Scoops, Clear Plastic Protectors

2: Tron Pro Girls Translite ; Mods: Laseriffic topper, Mirror blades, Flipper toppers, External Polk Sub, Speaker grill acrylic, Eli Light up Ramps, Eli Arcade 3.0, Color DMD, Lit Light Cycles, Yellow/Blue Colored Plastic Protectors, Light up Recognizer, Shaker Motor, Tron cut out metal speaker panel ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Eli Arcade 1.0, Clear plastic protectors, 3d Translite

3: The Simpsons Pinball Party ; Mods: Custom topper, Nuclear Side Rails/Hinges, Grandpa Shooter Rod, Back Panel/Inside art panels, Powdercoated Monorail/Wireforms/Apron, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Speaker Panel Art, LED replacement Tube, Custom Simpons Figures, Mezel Beer Dome Flasher, Sparky Micro display TV, Custom Homer Head Replacement, Plastic Protectors, KwikEMart Sticker + Extra, Full Ramp Protectors, Cointaker LED kit, Extras/Mods Not Installed: Full Set of extra Stern TSPP Stickers

4: Bat Man 66 Super LE ; Mods: Acrylic Full Playfield protector, Colored plastic protectors, Flipper topper Factory Sent Upgrades ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Extra set colored plastic protectors

5: Lord Of The Rings ; Mods: Color DMD, Metal Speaker Panel Overlay, Lasserific Topper, Acrylic Speaker Grill Rings, Mirror Blades, Army of the Dead mod, Cointaker LED Kit, LED OCD board, Jays Plantir Mod, Target decals, Shire decal, Shire protector, Side wood protector, No zip tie Plastics, Weapons for Figures, Shaker, Updated Roms for Shaker, Upgraded Break-Free Arwyn Plastic, Plastic Protectors, One Ring Shooter Rod ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: NOS Playfield, Extra Figures/Weapons

6: Hobbit Smaug ; Mods: Custom topper, Colored plastic protectors, Factory sent upgrades, Upgraded wire form ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Inside Art panels

7: Wizard of Oz Emerald LE ; Mods: Mezel Wizard torches, Upgraded Castle Wall Mod, Upgraded Witches Well Mod, Target Decals Extras/Mods Not Installed: Mirror Blades

8: Pirates Of the Carribean ; Mods: Laserriffic Topper, Backalley Creations Custom Speaker Panel, Backalley Creations Shooter lane Cannon, Backalley Inlane Wood replacement, Backalley Cannon Inlanes, Backalley Barrels, Flipper Toppers, Cointaker LED Kit, Speaker Grill Acrylic ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Airball deflector plastic

9: Rob Zombie ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Flipper Toppers, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Factory Upgrades, Shaker Motor ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Colored Plastic Protectors

10: The Walking Dead ; Mods: Stern Topper, Shaker Motor, Plastic Protectors, Flipper Toppers ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Yoyokopter Outlane Mod, Stern Interior art blades

11: Medieval Madness Remake LE ; Mods: 16-bit Color Upgrade, Plastic Protectors, Laserrific topper ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Inside Art Blades, Apron art blades, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Extra plastic protectors, Original MM plastic FOB set

12: Metallica Pro ; Mods: Flipper Toppers, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Shaker Motor, Laseriffic Topper, 3d Snake Package, Snake Fangs, Fuel Gels, Shaker Motor ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Stern Inside art blades

13: Americas Most Haunted ; Mods: Mirror Blades, Flipper Toppers, Plastic Protector, Laseriffic Topper ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Cliffys AMH set

14: Spiderman ; Mods: Color Dmd, Chestnut Chrome Coindoor/Legs/SRP Web side rails/lockdownbar/Hinges, Laseriffic Topper, Plastic Protectors, Speaker Panel Art, Mirror Blades, Shaker Motor, Backalley Houses, Backalley Subway, Lit Doc Oc Arms, Replacement Venom, Web plastics, Full Set Translucent Rubbers, Candy Red Flippers, Blue Upper Flipper, LED kit, OCD Kit, Chrome Shooter Rod, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Interactive Backglass/Underbelly LED lighting Kit, Interactive Lighting features wired in by Pinball Refinery ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Backalley Sandman mod

16: X-men LE Magneto ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Painted Wolverine, Flipper Toppers, Brushed Aluminum Flippers, Silicon Rubbers, Icicles on iceman ramp, External Polk Sub, Plastic protectors, Mirror Blades, Speaker Grill Acrylic ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: None

17: Iron Man ; Mods: Red DMD Filter, Laserrific Topper, Candy Red Powdercoat Hinges/Lolipop Siderails/lockdownbar/legs/coindoor, Cointaker LED Kit, Gold Mirror Blades, Speaker Panel Art, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Plastic Protectors, Gold Flippers, Shaker Motor, Gold Shooter Rod Mods/Extras Not Installed: Extra Monger Figure, Full Set of Extra Plastics minus 1 Slingshot Plastic

18: WWE LE ; Mods: Custom Titan Band Rubbers, Laseriffic Topper, Plastic Protectors Shaker Motor, 3d Ladder mod, 3d briefcase mod, Hogan Signature Protector ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside Art Blades

19: Kiss LE 500/500 ; Mods: Stern Topper, Speaker Grill Acrylic Plastic Protectors, Stern Shooter rod mod, Shaker Motor ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside art blades

20: Aerosmith Pro ; Mods: Stern Topper, Plastic Protectors, Airball protector, Colored Toybox Plastic, Flipper Toppers, Shaker Motor, 3d Guitar ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside art Blades

21: AC/DC Premium ; Mods: Laserrific Train Topper, Aurich Helen Translite, Mike D Interactive LCD mod, Metal Speaker Panel Overlay, Traintracks, Flipper Toppers, Mirror blades, External Polk sub, Upgraded Flipper Fidelity Speakers, Shaker Motor, Custom Laser cut Translucent Lighting target, Speaker Grill Acrylic Light up Lightning bolt standups ; Extras/Mods not Installed: Nos Playfields (Main and mini)

22: Dominoes ; Mods: Dominoes car delivery Topper, Shaker Motor ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Mirror Blades

23: GhostBusters Premium ; Mods: Stern Topper, Stern shooter Rod, Stern Mezel Mods Upgrade Pack (slime, building, storage pack, Pke inlanes), Airball deflector, Shaker Motor, Pinball Life Upgrade pack, Mezel mods colored captive balls, Plastic Protectors, Speaker Grill Acrylics ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside Art Blades

24: The Big Lebowski ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Plastic Protectors ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Inside art blades

25: Game of Thrones ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Alternate Hand Drawn Translite Matching Topper, Mezel mods battering ram, Mezel mods Pyramid, Colored Plastic Protectors, Shaker Motor, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Sword Sign mod, Dragon Flame Mod ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside Art blades

26: Full Throttle LE ; Mods: Tournament Topper, Plastic Protectors ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Extra Goody bag (2 of them total)

ty for the advice, ive never heard of mppg, looked it up on google but didnt find any pinball stuff, mind sending me the website through a pm? Not understanding all the snarky comments, was reaching out on a discussion forum to have a discussion about what current pricing on games are; I get that theres an archive, but its A) not exact B) doesnt take into account mods and extras C)Not as current as a discussion had today D)Overwhelming when you have a ton of games to sell.

I was asking for advice and help, if you dont want to help or give advice thats totally fine, but theres no need to be rude. This is a subforum devoted to buying and selling advice if im not mistaken....

Thanks, really appreciate the help, Ill read through the price guide and list things accordingly

its a pro, and thanks for taking the time to be a dick, community here has really changed over the last couple years...

I have an idea, i was trying to get the communities idea/viewpoint. Im sorry my having games or asking for advice upsets you

Apologies if it seemed that way, its def not a for sale ad. Have an idea of what everything is worth but a lot of stuff has gone up since they were bought. It honestly seemed like things were a lot higher than i was expecting and i was trying to get some confirmation that those prices are correct. Like, for example, would my tron be worth 6.5kish? Because Thats what archive shows, but a year ago they were like 5.5k, have they gone up 1k in the last year? Is Simpsons a 5k game now? Is LoTR a 6k game these days? A lot of the prices i saw shocked me and i just wanted some confirmation. I didn't list any prices i had in mind specifically because i didnt want a million pms asking me to sell them x or y game.

Sorry this isnt a for sale thread, it was just an advice thread, apologies if there was some confusion

Thanks, gonna send you over a pm, appreciate any advice you can give

Hit the nail on head about the stuff i literally have NO idea about. Any advice on these items specifically would be of great help. I know eggbert listed a TBL at 16k and everyone gave him shit but it sold, so does it command that? Has a BM66 SLE sold yet? I couldnt find an actual price on one that had sold. Any idea what signed white woods go for as a general rule? I appreciate everyones help, Im just trying to make the most informed decisions i can. I appreciate any advice or insight and welcome any constructive criticism.

I have a great relationship with JJ and am considering going that route, just wanted to get an idea of what top vs bottom dollar is. Appreciate the advice on the mods, i think i have been making that exact mistake.

Thank you, id noticed the prices were a little high but i didnt realize they were Ebay sales. I think Ebay adds about 10% in fees, would 10% Boston Pinball Prices be a more realistic reflection of price?

Dude youre awesome, you have no idea how helpful some feedback like this is to me, thank you 100x over

Thank you, I really really appreciate you taking the time to help, your prices and the price list right before are pretty close, seems like the biggest variance is with some of the bigger ticket games (TBL, BM66SLE) that havent sold often (which is to be expected), but just seeing where different people value things out is def helpful towards coming up with a price. Seems like the only thing from either of the lists that was drastically different than my own list was the full throttle le, i couldnt find any info on one thats sold, was this a "gut feeling" price or was there a price listed somewhere that i didnt see?

ps: your TBL offer is very generous, ill consider it ;-P

Most of the pms have been people with helpful tips on selling or standard bulk discount practice. I dont understand why everyone's head is in such nefarious places. Not trying to circumvent any fees, if that was my intent id just list them as not sold when i was done like everyone else seems to do. I am 99% going to sell everything in a bulk deal that has been worked seperate from pinside, my intent for this thread was just to get some advice on pricing, in a forum, whos purpose is to discuss pricing....

I totally see your point, apologies if it came off that way. Just to be fully transparent, I plan to likely sell all of my games in a bulk sale to a retailer or distributor. I would prefer to deal with a singular person than to sell 25 games to 25 people. This isnt a for sale ad and Im not trying to stir up interest or anything. Anyone who has pmed has been let know im going to explore other options first. I genuinely just wanted some advice, I saw the prices in the archive were a little higher than what i was expecting to see and i wanted to make sure that what i was asking for was in line with reality and not some insanely high or low number. I figured pinsiders would be a good 3rd party objective source of feedback. I may find that retailers want too low a price for me to stomach, in which case i will explore other alternatives but it seems like everyones advice across the board has been to explore that route first. I specifically didnt want to give numbers and ask if they were right to avoid stirring up a bunch of pms.

What would you say is a more typical discount in line with a dealer or retailer would want is?

I apologize if i took your comment in a way it wasnt intended. Had a couple people making rude comments and it felt like you were piling on rather trying to help. I was being too sensitive and took it wrong, my bad.

Appreciate your insight and thank you for your advice.

Going to free up some money to buy my neighbors house...I dont like having neighbors, and i dont like having a mortgage. Houses in Northern Cali are pretty expensive

I have a league that comes over once a week and im actually pretty active within the northern cali pin community. I play often and actively try to get better, often playing with some of the best players in the world. I dont know if ive done something to offend you but when you judge people based on knowing absolutely nothing about them it makes you look bitter.

I never anticipated having any issues selling the machines, i was just trying to have a discussion and get some feedback as to their market value and what percentage could expect to lose if I sell in bulk. Ive sold a lot of games in a short period of time individually in the past and it was a little chaotic so i was trying to avoid that if possible.

Most of the people were pretty clear i wouldnt get much back on the mods and thats totally fine, ive enjoyed them and had fun installing them and playing with them. Or do you mean the price lists given were too high, like they took the mods into account too much?

Sound advice, do you think it would be better to wait until after the sales are finalized? This is what i was planning to do, that way i could offer it with the game and if it wasnt wanted i could sell it individually. I could probably do this with the mods as well.

Solid advice i hadnt thought of, def a good option, ty

would you say 4.5k would be closer to market value or do think thats still too high?

Respect your time in the hobby and def appreciate the info, and again, just to be clear, i do have numbers in mind. Im asking pinside for numbers because i want to compare their numbers to mine. Im just asking for advice. There seems to be some variance in peoples numbers to some of mine, and i just want to make sure i price things correctly. Just trying to get feedback so i can make the most informed decision possible. Ive looked, am looking and will continue to look through the archives but i appreciate any extra feedback people give as well. The biggest question i have is what sort of discount is appropriate for this sort of sale and it seems like ive read everything from 5% to 30%, again just trying to aquire the most info possible to make the best decision possible.

Ty for your feeback and advice Neighbor is easily 8-12 months from being ready to move so not in a big rush, just want to be ready if/when she does. Initially, the consensus seemed to be a bulk discount would cost around 10% to 15%, it seems like that is incorrect and it may be closer to 20-25%. It is very likely that i will not be able to stomache the discount needed to make a bulk sale happen and ill end up selling everything individually, albiet, at a much slower rate. Gonna have a long talk with my family before making a decision one way or another

Dang, you wouldve totally been welcome, mount hermon is like less than 30 mins from my place. We were doing Pinball on Thursdays, but we switched to Sundays. Its not anything competitive, we just play to have a good time and help each other get better. Its a very casual affair. I find that since its not formed as a competition, people are more open to help each other and have a good time rather than focusing on winning. The neighbor and i have discussed me purchasing her home in the past and shes been very open to it. My parents are getting older and eventually id like them to move closer to me so i can keep an eye on them.

Really appreciate everyone thats taken time to share their experiences or advice. Got a pretty good idea of what everything is worth both individually and as a bulk deal. Going to spend some time to mull over what course of action makes the most sense for me and my family and go from there.