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Selling my Collection, Asking for Advice on Prices


By Damon

2 years ago



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    #1 2 years ago

    Hi everyone, Im planning to start liquidating my collection over the coming weeks. Ive reached out to people and had some interest but dont know ton about what the value of the games i have is these days. Theyve asked for prices but im hesitant to give a number before checking to see whats fair for both parties. Ive been buying NiB games for the last few years and havent really spent much time exploring the secondary market, curious to get some feedback from the pinside community on what some fair starting asking prices are for the games in my collection. Not looking to gouge anyone and not looking to give anything away, just want to get fair market value for my games and to work deals where both parties can walk away happy. Ive made a list of the games along with mods and extras, and here is a google drive link with a couple quick pics of each machine to get an idea of overall quality/condition/aesthetic, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByfHiVxZnjTyblk2UTFmYzJzOW8

    1: Star Trek Premium ; Mods: Laseriffic topper, Mirror blades, Flipper toppers, Colored Plastic Protectors, Shaker motor, Full Aurich alternate translite/alternate art package, Mezel warp flasher domes, Speaker Grill Acrylic ; Extras/ Mods Not Installed: Signed Steve Richie Original Whitewood (won at Pagg auction), Cliffys for Scoops, Clear Plastic Protectors

    2: Tron Pro Girls Translite ; Mods: Laseriffic topper, Mirror blades, Flipper toppers, External Polk Sub, Speaker grill acrylic, Eli Light up Ramps, Eli Arcade 3.0, Color DMD, Lit Light Cycles, Yellow/Blue Colored Plastic Protectors, Light up Recognizer, Shaker Motor, Tron cut out metal speaker panel ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Eli Arcade 1.0, Clear plastic protectors, 3d Translite

    3: The Simpsons Pinball Party ; Mods: Custom topper, Nuclear Side Rails/Hinges, Grandpa Shooter Rod, Back Panel/Inside art panels, Powdercoated Monorail/Wireforms/Apron, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Speaker Panel Art, LED replacement Tube, Custom Simpons Figures, Mezel Beer Dome Flasher, Sparky Micro display TV, Custom Homer Head Replacement, Plastic Protectors, KwikEMart Sticker + Extra, Full Ramp Protectors, Cointaker LED kit, Extras/Mods Not Installed: Full Set of extra Stern TSPP Stickers

    4: Bat Man 66 Super LE ; Mods: Acrylic Full Playfield protector, Colored plastic protectors, Flipper topper Factory Sent Upgrades ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Extra set colored plastic protectors

    5: Lord Of The Rings ; Mods: Color DMD, Metal Speaker Panel Overlay, Lasserific Topper, Acrylic Speaker Grill Rings, Mirror Blades, Army of the Dead mod, Cointaker LED Kit, LED OCD board, Jays Plantir Mod, Target decals, Shire decal, Shire protector, Side wood protector, No zip tie Plastics, Weapons for Figures, Shaker, Updated Roms for Shaker, Upgraded Break-Free Arwyn Plastic, Plastic Protectors, One Ring Shooter Rod ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: NOS Playfield, Extra Figures/Weapons

    6: Hobbit Smaug ; Mods: Custom topper, Colored plastic protectors, Factory sent upgrades, Upgraded wire form ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Inside Art panels

    7: Wizard of Oz Emerald LE ; Mods: Mezel Wizard torches, Upgraded Castle Wall Mod, Upgraded Witches Well Mod, Target Decals Extras/Mods Not Installed: Mirror Blades

    8: Pirates Of the Carribean ; Mods: Laserriffic Topper, Backalley Creations Custom Speaker Panel, Backalley Creations Shooter lane Cannon, Backalley Inlane Wood replacement, Backalley Cannon Inlanes, Backalley Barrels, Flipper Toppers, Cointaker LED Kit, Speaker Grill Acrylic ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Airball deflector plastic

    9: Rob Zombie ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Flipper Toppers, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Factory Upgrades, Shaker Motor ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Colored Plastic Protectors

    10: The Walking Dead ; Mods: Stern Topper, Shaker Motor, Plastic Protectors, Flipper Toppers ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Yoyokopter Outlane Mod, Stern Interior art blades

    11: Medieval Madness Remake LE ; Mods: 16-bit Color Upgrade, Plastic Protectors, Laserrific topper ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Inside Art Blades, Apron art blades, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Extra plastic protectors, Original MM plastic FOB set

    12: Metallica Pro ; Mods: Flipper Toppers, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Shaker Motor, Laseriffic Topper, 3d Snake Package, Snake Fangs, Fuel Gels, Shaker Motor ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Stern Inside art blades

    13: Americas Most Haunted ; Mods: Mirror Blades, Flipper Toppers, Plastic Protector, Laseriffic Topper ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Cliffys AMH set

    14: Spiderman ; Mods: Color Dmd, Chestnut Chrome Coindoor/Legs/SRP Web side rails/lockdownbar/Hinges, Laseriffic Topper, Plastic Protectors, Speaker Panel Art, Mirror Blades, Shaker Motor, Backalley Houses, Backalley Subway, Lit Doc Oc Arms, Replacement Venom, Web plastics, Full Set Translucent Rubbers, Candy Red Flippers, Blue Upper Flipper, LED kit, OCD Kit, Chrome Shooter Rod, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Interactive Backglass/Underbelly LED lighting Kit, Interactive Lighting features wired in by Pinball Refinery ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Backalley Sandman mod

    16: X-men LE Magneto ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Painted Wolverine, Flipper Toppers, Brushed Aluminum Flippers, Silicon Rubbers, Icicles on iceman ramp, External Polk Sub, Plastic protectors, Mirror Blades, Speaker Grill Acrylic ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: None

    17: Iron Man ; Mods: Red DMD Filter, Laserrific Topper, Candy Red Powdercoat Hinges/Lolipop Siderails/lockdownbar/legs/coindoor, Cointaker LED Kit, Gold Mirror Blades, Speaker Panel Art, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Plastic Protectors, Gold Flippers, Shaker Motor, Gold Shooter Rod Mods/Extras Not Installed: Extra Monger Figure, Full Set of Extra Plastics minus 1 Slingshot Plastic

    18: WWE LE ; Mods: Custom Titan Band Rubbers, Laseriffic Topper, Plastic Protectors Shaker Motor, 3d Ladder mod, 3d briefcase mod, Hogan Signature Protector ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside Art Blades

    19: Kiss LE 500/500 ; Mods: Stern Topper, Speaker Grill Acrylic Plastic Protectors, Stern Shooter rod mod, Shaker Motor ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside art blades

    20: Aerosmith Pro ; Mods: Stern Topper, Plastic Protectors, Airball protector, Colored Toybox Plastic, Flipper Toppers, Shaker Motor, 3d Guitar ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside art Blades

    21: AC/DC Premium ; Mods: Laserrific Train Topper, Aurich Helen Translite, Mike D Interactive LCD mod, Metal Speaker Panel Overlay, Traintracks, Flipper Toppers, Mirror blades, External Polk sub, Upgraded Flipper Fidelity Speakers, Shaker Motor, Custom Laser cut Translucent Lighting target, Speaker Grill Acrylic Light up Lightning bolt standups ; Extras/Mods not Installed: Nos Playfields (Main and mini)

    22: Dominoes ; Mods: Dominoes car delivery Topper, Shaker Motor ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Mirror Blades

    23: GhostBusters Premium ; Mods: Stern Topper, Stern shooter Rod, Stern Mezel Mods Upgrade Pack (slime, building, storage pack, Pke inlanes), Airball deflector, Shaker Motor, Pinball Life Upgrade pack, Mezel mods colored captive balls, Plastic Protectors, Speaker Grill Acrylics ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside Art Blades

    24: The Big Lebowski ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Plastic Protectors ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Inside art blades

    25: Game of Thrones ; Mods: Laseriffic Topper, Alternate Hand Drawn Translite Matching Topper, Mezel mods battering ram, Mezel mods Pyramid, Colored Plastic Protectors, Shaker Motor, Speaker Grill Acrylic, Sword Sign mod, Dragon Flame Mod ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Stern Inside Art blades

    26: Full Throttle LE ; Mods: Tournament Topper, Plastic Protectors ; Mods/Extras Not Installed: Extra Goody bag (2 of them total)

    #2 2 years ago

    Wow! That is quite a collection! Maybe someone will buy the whole thing. I know if I was opening a new barcade, boom, I would be all set with the titles you have.

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    #3 2 years ago

    Too bad there isn't a website with current sales information. Sadly, we'll just never know what your games are worth.

    #4 2 years ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    Too bad there isn't a website with current sales information. Sadly, we'll just never know what your games are worth.

    It would be even better if a site like that had archived price history from actual sales so you could see the trend for a given machine you were researching. But I guess that's just dreaming...or is it?

    #5 2 years ago

    Cant give you exact #s as you did not specify if TWD was a perm or pro......

    #6 2 years ago

    MPPG 2017, this will provide you the "very good" condition value, fully functional.
    Adjust your values the values further by actual condition by percentage basis.
    Excellent (+10%), superb (+10-15%), collector (meaning pristine, NIB, HEP) not necessarily HUO (Up to +25%), not the mods, toppers, or additions.
    Then you have a rough benchmark.
    This is substantially easier as 90% of the games listed were made in the last 10 years, with no market "ultra" rare titles included.

    Alternatively, offer it to a reputable dealer.

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    #7 2 years ago
    Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

    MPPG 2017, this are at "very good" condition value, fully functional.
    Adjust your values the values further by condition, not the mods.
    Then you have your benchmark.
    Alternatively, offer it to a dealer.

    ty for the advice, ive never heard of mppg, looked it up on google but didnt find any pinball stuff, mind sending me the website through a pm? Not understanding all the snarky comments, was reaching out on a discussion forum to have a discussion about what current pricing on games are; I get that theres an archive, but its A) not exact B) doesnt take into account mods and extras C)Not as current as a discussion had today D)Overwhelming when you have a ton of games to sell.

    I was asking for advice and help, if you dont want to help or give advice thats totally fine, but theres no need to be rude. This is a subforum devoted to buying and selling advice if im not mistaken....

    #8 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    ty for the advice, ive never heard of mppg, looked it up on google but didnt find any pinball stuff, mind sending me the website through a pm?

    MPPG2017 is the Mr. Pinball Price Guide 2017.
    This is its 27th year of publication.
    https://user.xmission.com/~daina/pinlist_info.html

    A revised my response for additional assistance to calculate percentages for additional condition considerations and the fact that most titles are recent game productions.
    The lag in prices right now according to this publication is very small margin as it was just published this year again.
    If you require additional assistance you may PM me.

    It is best to well armed with knowledge when you go into a large volume sales of the costs of pinball machines.
    Good fortune.

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    #9 2 years ago
    Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

    MPPG2017 is the Mr. Pinball Price Guide 2017.
    A revised my response for additional assistance to calculate for additional condition considerations and the fact that most titles are recent game productions.
    If you require additional assistance you my PM me.
    Best of Fortune.

    Thanks, really appreciate the help, Ill read through the price guide and list things accordingly

    Quoted from hoby1:

    Cant give you exact #s as you did not specify if TWD was a perm or pro......

    its a pro, and thanks for taking the time to be a dick, community here has really changed over the last couple years...

    #10 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    community here has really changed over the last couple years...

    Yes, it really has changed. Its now filled with people who buy indiscriminately and throw hundreds of thousands of dollars into games to the point where they have no idea what they're worth.

    #11 2 years ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    Yes, it really has changed. Its now filled with people who buy indiscriminately and throw hundreds of thousands of dollars into games to the point where they have no idea what they're worth.

    I have an idea, i was trying to get the communities idea/viewpoint. Im sorry my having games or asking for advice upsets you

    #12 2 years ago

    This appears more like a FS thread and less like a price check thread...

    In general, ask what you paid for each. In some cases you can go higher, like TBL. It other cases you will need to go much lower, like Xmen.

    In general prices are not much different on any of these new titles than when you bought them.

    If I was getting out, I would just go back to the dealler you bought all these from and offer the whole lot at a 10% discount. Make them take them all and just be done with it.

    #13 2 years ago

    Can u tell me how much u want for amh, and emerald oz ? Pm is fine thanks

    #14 2 years ago

    Damon, if you were closer I would be making an offer to buy them all. My suggestion is spend some time looking at the archives here on pinside market and it should give you an idea. Pm me if you have specific questions, I'd be glad to help.

    #15 2 years ago

    WOW Seriously nice collection - would love to own some of your titles nothing like that for sale in the great white north TSPP is my fav if you would take a reasonable offer let me know

    #16 2 years ago

    Some of those would be hard to value based on a price guide (TBL, ST white wood, BM66 SLE). For those items, eBay might be the best option. For the rest, just look through the Pinside archive at what past listing & sales prices were and adjust +/- for condition.

    #17 2 years ago

    If you want top dollar for each game, you will need to list them on Pinside and offer shipping as an option. List 3 games at a time to make it digestible.

    If you want it to be over quick, call JJ at Game Exchange and offer your collection to him.

    You will get much more money selling games individually.

    And finally, don't overvalue your mods. With the exception of a few mods (Colod DMD), you will get pennies on the dollar for many of them. You may luck out and find someone who loves mods, but even that person likes to pick the mods themselves often times.

    Good luck!

    #18 2 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    This appears more like a FS thread and less like a price check thread...
    In general, ask what you paid for each. In some cases you can go higher, like TBL. It other cases you will need to go much lower, like Xmen.
    In general prices are not much different on any of these new titles than when you bought them.
    If I was getting out, I would just go back to the dealler you bought all these from and offer the whole lot at a 10% discount. Make them take them all and just be done with it.

    Apologies if it seemed that way, its def not a for sale ad. Have an idea of what everything is worth but a lot of stuff has gone up since they were bought. It honestly seemed like things were a lot higher than i was expecting and i was trying to get some confirmation that those prices are correct. Like, for example, would my tron be worth 6.5kish? Because Thats what archive shows, but a year ago they were like 5.5k, have they gone up 1k in the last year? Is Simpsons a 5k game now? Is LoTR a 6k game these days? A lot of the prices i saw shocked me and i just wanted some confirmation. I didn't list any prices i had in mind specifically because i didnt want a million pms asking me to sell them x or y game.

    Quoted from Oneangrymo:

    Can u tell me how much u want for amh, and emerald oz ? Pm is fine thanks

    Sorry this isnt a for sale thread, it was just an advice thread, apologies if there was some confusion

    Quoted from Pinphila:

    Damon, if you were closer I would be making an offer to buy them all. My suggestion is spend some time looking at the archives here on pinside market and it should give you an idea. Pm me if you have specific questions, I'd be glad to help.

    Thanks, gonna send you over a pm, appreciate any advice you can give

    #19 2 years ago

    You can check out the Boston Pinball price guide, which has low, high, and average sales in the last year (last updated May 2017). Of course these are based on Ebay sales, but sales are sales!

    #20 2 years ago

    1. 6300 w/o white wood
    2. 7500
    3. 5300
    4. 12k, no clue on this one
    5. 5800
    6. 6800
    7. 7500
    8. 5200
    9. 5500
    10. 5000
    11. 7900
    12. 4800
    13. 5800
    14. 5600
    15. You skipped this number
    16. 5000
    17. 5000
    18. 6000
    19. 6800
    20. 4800
    21. 7500, no extra PF
    22. 4500
    23. 6500
    24. 12000
    25. 4800
    26. 6800

    Ballpark based on HUO condition.

    #21 2 years ago
    Quoted from boustrophedonic:

    Some of those would be hard to value based on a price guide (TBL, ST white wood, BM66 SLE). For those items, eBay might be the best option. For the rest, just look through the Pinside archive at what past listing & sales prices were and adjust +/- for condition.

    Hit the nail on head about the stuff i literally have NO idea about. Any advice on these items specifically would be of great help. I know eggbert listed a TBL at 16k and everyone gave him shit but it sold, so does it command that? Has a BM66 SLE sold yet? I couldnt find an actual price on one that had sold. Any idea what signed white woods go for as a general rule? I appreciate everyones help, Im just trying to make the most informed decisions i can. I appreciate any advice or insight and welcome any constructive criticism.

    Quoted from kermit24:

    If you want top dollar for each game, you will need to list them on Pinside and offer shipping as an option. List 3 games at a time to make is digestible.
    If you want it to be over quick, call JJ at Game Exchange and offer your collection to him.
    You will get much more money selling games individually.
    And finally, don't overvalue your mods. With the exception of a few mods (Colod DMD), you will get pennies on the dollar for many of them. You may luck out and find someone who loves mods, but even that person likes to pick the mods themselves often times.
    Good luck!

    I have a great relationship with JJ and am considering going that route, just wanted to get an idea of what top vs bottom dollar is. Appreciate the advice on the mods, i think i have been making that exact mistake.

    Quoted from yonizzell:

    You can check out the Boston Pinball price guide, which has low, high, and average sales in the last year (last updated May 2017). Of course these are based on Ebay sales, but sales are sales!

    Thank you, id noticed the prices were a little high but i didnt realize they were Ebay sales. I think Ebay adds about 10% in fees, would 10% Boston Pinball Prices be a more realistic reflection of price?

    #22 2 years ago
    Quoted from Toasterdog:

    1. 6300 w/o white wood
    2. 7500
    3. 5300
    4. 12k, no clue on this one
    5. 5800
    6. 6800
    7. 7500
    8. 5200
    9. 5500
    10. 5000
    11. 7900
    12. 4800
    13. 5800
    14. 5600
    15. You skipped this number
    16. 5000
    17. 5000
    18. 6000
    19. 6800
    20. 4800
    21. 7500, no extra PF
    22. 4500
    23. 6500
    24. 12000
    25. 4800
    26. 6800
    Ballpark based on HUO condition.

    Dude youre awesome, you have no idea how helpful some feedback like this is to me, thank you 100x over

    #23 2 years ago

    1. $6200
    2. $6500
    3. $5000
    4. $9000
    5. $5500
    6. $7000
    7. $7400
    8. $4800
    9. $5900
    10.$4700
    11. $8000
    12. $4700
    13. $5500
    14. $5200
    15. skipped number
    16. $5000
    17. $5000
    18. $5300
    19. $6700
    20. $4800
    21. $6500
    22. $5200
    23. $6400
    24. $15,000
    25. $4600
    26. $6500

    I would list on Pinside, CL, and Mr. Pinball to maximize exposure and liquidate more quickly. It is hard getting money out of mods, may remove and sell seperatly, and also sell playfield separate.

    Good Luck with sale-I will give you $7000 for the Big Labowski

    #24 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinmister:

    1. $6200
    2. $6500
    3. $5000
    4. $9000
    5. $5500
    6. $7000
    7. $7400
    8. $4800
    9. $5900
    10.$4700
    11. $8000
    12. $4700
    13. $5500
    14. $5200
    15. skipped number
    16. $5000
    17. $5000
    18. $5300
    19. $6700
    20. $4800
    21. $6500
    22. $5200
    23. $6400
    24. $15,000
    25. $4600
    26. $6500
    I would list on Pinside, CL, and Mr. Pinball to maximize exposure and liquidate more quickly.
    Good Luck with sale-I will give you $7000 for the Big Labowski

    Thank you, I really really appreciate you taking the time to help, your prices and the price list right before are pretty close, seems like the biggest variance is with some of the bigger ticket games (TBL, BM66SLE) that havent sold often (which is to be expected), but just seeing where different people value things out is def helpful towards coming up with a price. Seems like the only thing from either of the lists that was drastically different than my own list was the full throttle le, i couldnt find any info on one thats sold, was this a "gut feeling" price or was there a price listed somewhere that i didnt see?

    ps: your TBL offer is very generous, ill consider it ;-P

    #25 2 years ago

    And I was just in Boulder Creek a few days ago. So close to such a great collection...

    #26 2 years ago

    intentional or not, this is certainly one way of circumventing Pinside marketplace fees. how many PMs has this thread spawned?

    #27 2 years ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    intentional or not, this is certainly one way of circumventing Pinside marketplace fees. how many PMs has this thread spawned?

    Most of the pms have been people with helpful tips on selling or standard bulk discount practice. I dont understand why everyone's head is in such nefarious places. Not trying to circumvent any fees, if that was my intent id just list them as not sold when i was done like everyone else seems to do. I am 99% going to sell everything in a bulk deal that has been worked seperate from pinside, my intent for this thread was just to get some advice on pricing, in a forum, whos purpose is to discuss pricing....

    #28 2 years ago

    i don't think it was nefarious. it's just that in practical terms, the upshot is that you've generated a lot of interest and inquiries about games you are selling, by using this messageboard to let people know they're for sale. i don't think it was intentional.

    #29 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    4: Bat Man 66 Super LE ; Mods: Acrylic Full Playfield protector, Colored plastic protectors, Flipper topper Factory Sent Upgrades ; Extras/Mods Not Installed: Extra set colored plastic protectors

    I thought you weren't allowed to sell those?

    #30 2 years ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    It would be even better if a site like that had archived price history from actual sales so you could see the trend for a given machine you were researching. But I guess that's just dreaming...or is it?

    Boston Pinball keeps track of Ebay sales... which I think is a bit more accurate for older games. but still.
    http://bostonpinball.biz/ebay0517.htm

    It is nice to show a seller (that has an old non working game) to give him an accurate price when he has seen his Funhouse advertised on CL for $7k.

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    #31 2 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    This appears more like a FS thread and less like a price check thread...
    In general, ask what you paid for each. In some cases you can go higher, like TBL. It other cases you will need to go much lower, like Xmen.
    In general prices are not much different on any of these new titles than when you bought them.
    If I was getting out, I would just go back to the dealler you bought all these from and offer the whole lot at a 10% discount. Make them take them all and just be done with it.

    Why would a dealer want to pay those kinds of prices?

    Trust me, they aren't gonna be into moving 26 pinball machines for a potential 10 percent profit.

    #32 2 years ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    Yes, it really has changed. Its now filled with people who buy indiscriminately and throw hundreds of thousands of dollars into games to the point where they have no idea what they're worth.

    Such irony.

    OP states how the site has changed, and your asshole-ish post makes his point for him.

    #33 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    Thanks, really appreciate the help, Ill read through the price guide and list things accordingly

    its a pro, and thanks for taking the time to be a dick, community here has really changed over the last couple years...

    I actually took the time to read your discretions and noticed on that piece you did not specify. Thought I would let you know by making a joke.

    Then you start calling me names .... [comment removed]

    #34 2 years ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    i don't think it was nefarious. it's just that in practical terms, the upshot is that you've generated a lot of interest and inquiries about games you are selling, by using this messageboard to let people know they're for sale. i don't think it was intentional.

    I totally see your point, apologies if it came off that way. Just to be fully transparent, I plan to likely sell all of my games in a bulk sale to a retailer or distributor. I would prefer to deal with a singular person than to sell 25 games to 25 people. This isnt a for sale ad and Im not trying to stir up interest or anything. Anyone who has pmed has been let know im going to explore other options first. I genuinely just wanted some advice, I saw the prices in the archive were a little higher than what i was expecting to see and i wanted to make sure that what i was asking for was in line with reality and not some insanely high or low number. I figured pinsiders would be a good 3rd party objective source of feedback. I may find that retailers want too low a price for me to stomach, in which case i will explore other alternatives but it seems like everyones advice across the board has been to explore that route first. I specifically didnt want to give numbers and ask if they were right to avoid stirring up a bunch of pms.

    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Why would a dealer want to pay those kinds of prices?
    Trust me, they aren't gonna be into moving 26 pinball machines for a potential 10 percent profit.

    What would you say is a more typical discount in line with a dealer or retailer would want is?

    Quoted from hoby1:

    I actually took the time to read your discretions and noticed on that piece you did not specify. Thought I would let you know by making a joke.
    Then you start calling me names .... [comment removed]

    I apologize if i took your comment in a way it wasnt intended. Had a couple people making rude comments and it felt like you were piling on rather trying to help. I was being too sensitive and took it wrong, my bad.

    #35 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    What would you say is a more typical discount in line with a dealer or retailer would want is?

    In my opinion it's not feasible unless you are willing to give say a 30% or so discount. These are high-priced games. Harder to move and there's not much room for profit - a dealer would be better off buying a Target Alpha for 500 bucks and trying to sell it for 1500 than buying a tricked out Star Trek Premium from you for $6,500 and hoping he can sell it for $7,500 without having to keep it on the showroom floor for years.

    The other issue -as others have delicately pointed out - is the massive amounts of aftermarket garbage you've put into these games. Most of this stuff is worth very little to a dealer or his customers, really pennies to the dollar on what you spent on these mods. That reality would make it hard for you to offer the kind of discount a dealer would need to make it worth his time.

    I think your target audience is right here, Facebook, and mrpinball.com, not with a dealer. It might take a while but your best bet is to sell the games off in the above venues, perhaps offering small discounts for multiple buys. And there's always going to be a pinside/collector audience for stuff like Lebowski or Batman SLE, whereas something like that is kind of useless to a dealer.

    #36 2 years ago

    Why are you getting rid of all of your games? Genuinely curious. List reads like someone who went all in on getting and upgrading nearly all of the latest big name games over the past several years. Surprising to invest all that time and money and then dump it all.

    #37 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    In my opinion it's not feasible unless you are willing to give say a 30% or so discount. These are high-priced games. Harder to move and there's not much room for profit - a dealer would be better off buying a Target Alpha for 500 bucks and trying to sell it for 1500 than buying a tricked out Star Trek Premium from you for $6,500 and hoping he can sell it for $7,500 without having to keep it on the showroom floor for 18 months.
    The other issue -as others have delicately pointed out - is the massive amounts of aftermarket garbage you've put into these games. Most of this stuff is worth very little to a dealer, really pennies to the dollar on what you spent on these mods. That reality would make it hard for you to offer the kind of discount a dealer would need to make it worth his time.
    I think your target audience is right here, Facebook, and mrpinball.com, not with a dealer. It might take a while but your best bet is to sell the games off here, perhaps offering small discounts for multiple buys. And there's always going to be a pinside/collector audience for stuff like Lebowski, whereas something like that is kind of useless to a dealer.

    Bottom line when selling is you will get your best return selling each one at a time but this takes time, energy, etc. Selling in groups or "bulk deal" you will likely have to discount 20% (or so) but some people don't have the time or interest in selling one at a time.

    Doing legwork is really the only way to get a great idea of value but again that takes time. Suggestions here - price guides - Boston Pinball average - etc will all help but depending on what your are looking to do and how quick you want to sell these selling one at a time will surely result in your best return

    #38 2 years ago

    If you don't want to deal with selling them individually yourself you could try and find a fellow collector friend that you trust to act as a broker for you and sell the games for you and pay them a commission (~5%) on each sale. I've seen people do that in the past when selling large quantities of games.

    #39 2 years ago

    The prices listed are fair market prices (not yet marked up for retail resell) so maybe shooting for a 10% bulk discount sale is not a bad target

    The pins will get marked up an additional x% by the retailer

    #40 2 years ago
    Quoted from blueberryjohnson:

    Why are you getting rid of all of your games? Genuinely curious. List reads like someone who went all in on getting and upgrading nearly all of the latest big name games over the past several years. Surprising to invest all that time and money and then dump it all.

    Not really. Maybe he doesn't like playing them that much - his collection and addiction to mods reeks of "high-priced collector over player," which is absolutely fine, people are into the hobby for different reasons. But check the "why do people leave the hobby" thread, it's filled with truths. Sometimes people go balls out like that and burn out quickly. Dude has a shitload of money tied up in his collection and if it's not doing whatever it once did for him smart to get out and use all that cabbage on something that brings him more fun.

    #41 2 years ago

    Damon- wow, sorry you want out. Youve spent a good chunk of change and time building a supreme collection.
    Im just worried for you that the wolves and sharks have been sending you PMs since this started 8 hours ago. I just picture several dealers up and down coast low balling you.
    But from your posts above sounds like you have that covered.
    I do feel selling a few at a time will yield close to market value. Bulk sale buyer needs a deal to purchase then move them again. Its a lot of machines. Time along takes money.
    I do see one or two i would like. Im not going to pm you. If you choose to sell one by one please let me know. Willing to pay what was listed by 2 pinsiders above.

    #42 2 years ago

    Keep in mind that many buyers will want the machine, but not necessarily want the mods you've chosen to do. They may not be willing to pay for the mods at all in many cases.

    #43 2 years ago

    Yeah, if the money is not super important, it's easier to sell the whole bunch or maybe in 2 or 3 lots. You will have to eat 20 to 30%
    I'd sell the Batman and TBL on their own because those are the big money items. Just my 2 cents

    #44 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    In my opinion it's not feasible unless you are willing to give say a 30% or so discount. These are high-priced games. Harder to move and there's not much room for profit - a dealer would be better off buying a Target Alpha for 500 bucks and trying to sell it for 1500 than buying a tricked out Star Trek Premium from you for $6,500 and hoping he can sell it for $7,500 without having to keep it on the showroom floor for 18 months.
    The other issue -as others have delicately pointed out - is the massive amounts of aftermarket garbage you've put into these games. Most of this stuff is worth very little to a dealer, really pennies to the dollar on what you spent on these mods. That reality would make it hard for you to offer the kind of discount a dealer would need to make it worth his time.
    I think your target audience is right here, Facebook, and mrpinball.com, not with a dealer. It might take a while but your best bet is to sell the games off here, perhaps offering small discounts for multiple buys. And there's always going to be a pinside/collector audience for stuff like Lebowski, whereas something like that is kind of useless to a dealer.

    Appreciate your insight and thank you for your advice.

    Quoted from blueberryjohnson:

    Why are you getting rid of all of your games? Genuinely curious. List reads like someone who went all in on getting and upgrading nearly all of the latest big name games over the past several years. Surprising to invest all that time and money and then dump it all.

    Going to free up some money to buy my neighbors house...I dont like having neighbors, and i dont like having a mortgage. Houses in Northern Cali are pretty expensive

    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Not really. Maybe he doesn't like playing them that much - his collection and addiction to mods reeks of "collector over player," which is absolutely fine, people are into the hobby for different reasons. But check the "why do people leave the hobby" thread, it's filled with truths. Sometimes people go balls out like that and burn out quickly. Dude has a shitload of money tied up in his collection and if it's not doing whatever it once did for him smart to get out and use all that cabbage on something that brings him more fun.

    I have a league that comes over once a week and im actually pretty active within the northern cali pin community. I play often and actively try to get better, often playing with some of the best players in the world. I dont know if ive done something to offend you but when you judge people based on knowing absolutely nothing about them it makes you look bitter.

    #45 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    I have a league that comes over once a week and im actually pretty active within the northern cali pin community.

    Then you'll have no trouble moving these machines...

    #46 2 years ago

    One thing is Id seperate the few extra playfields from the games themselves eg lotr the extra pf is worth 700 ish and the game around 6k, but would be a hard sell together.

    #47 2 years ago
    Quoted from spfxted:

    Then you'll have no trouble moving these machines...

    Good point - great starting point for selling off the collection. Word of mouth can be an effective way to move high-priced collector's pieces.

    Quoted from Damon:

    I dont know if ive done something to offend you but when you judge people based on knowing absolutely nothing about them it makes you look bitter.

    Are you actively trying to fight with EVERYBODY in this thread? You didn't offend me, I have nothing against you, and I've tried to offer you helpful advice based on my experience as a collector and in pin retail. Good luck with your sales.

    #48 2 years ago
    Quoted from spfxted:

    Then you'll have no trouble moving these machines...

    I never anticipated having any issues selling the machines, i was just trying to have a discussion and get some feedback as to their market value and what percentage could expect to lose if I sell in bulk. Ive sold a lot of games in a short period of time individually in the past and it was a little chaotic so i was trying to avoid that if possible.

    Quoted from drsfmd:

    Keep in mind that many buyers will want the machine, but not necessarily want the mods you've chosen to do. They may not be willing to pay for the mods at all in many cases.

    Most of the people were pretty clear i wouldnt get much back on the mods and thats totally fine, ive enjoyed them and had fun installing them and playing with them. Or do you mean the price lists given were too high, like they took the mods into account too much?

    Quoted from libtech:

    One thing is Id seperate the few extra playfields from the games themselves eg lotr the extra pf is worth 700 ish and the game around 6k, but would be a hard sell together.

    Sound advice, do you think it would be better to wait until after the sales are finalized? This is what i was planning to do, that way i could offer it with the game and if it wasnt wanted i could sell it individually. I could probably do this with the mods as well.

    Quoted from MikeS:

    If you don't want to deal with selling them yourself you could try and find a fellow collector friend to act as a broker for you and sell the games for you and pay them a commission (~5%) on each sale. I've seen people do that in the past when selling large quantities of games.

    Solid advice i hadnt thought of, def a good option, ty

    #49 2 years ago

    Damon... We've spoken over the years and your games are top notch.

    Good luck with your bulk sale. Hopefully you can flush out the funds quickly, to purchase neighbor's property.

    Kerry

    #50 2 years ago
    Quoted from Damon:

    Or do you mean the price lists given were too high, like they took the mods into account too much?

    I have no opinion on the prices that were offered up, other than to say that I think the suggested price for TSSP is too high-- I had the opportunity to buy a couple of decent ones in the low 4k's in the last few months.

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