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Sega whitestar reset (SST)

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8 years ago


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#2 8 years ago

I forgot if my LWJP had the reset issue....it was a long process of fixing etc, but its a 20 yr old board/game so I shipped the boards out and had them repaired. First test with a DMM to see what voltage you get at the test points. If that 5v isn't up to par, then ya, you may want to rebuild that.

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#9 8 years ago

holy crap, found my notes from LWJP resetting. I'll paste them in. Hope they help.

4.4 Low +5VDC and Game Resets

The +5VDC for logic power is sourced from the 8VAC secondary windings on the transformer. The 8VAC is fed to the I/O Power Driver Board, and rectified via bridge rectifier, BRDG21. The rectified DC voltage is regulated via an LM338K adjustable voltage regulator. Logic voltage can be adjusted via R116 on the driver board, which is a 50 ohm adjustment potentiometer.

U413, which is located on the CPU / sound board next to the reset button, is a Dallas Maxim DS1232 monitoring chip. In theory, should the logic voltage dip to less than 5% or +4.75VDC, the DS1232 will force a reset of the CPU. However, it has been determined that most White Star board sets will not function properly below +4.85VDC.

If the voltage on the power I/O driver board is below the +4.85VDC threshold, adjustment can be made via the R116 adjustment pot, until a satisfactory voltage is achieved. The best location to measure the +5VDC is at the bottom leg of resistor R114. R114 is located in the vicinity of the R116 adjustment pot, and just below the +5VDC LED, L2. If a satisfactory voltage cannot be achieved, turn the game off. Remove connector J16, located above the LM338 regulator. Turn the game back on, and measure the +5V again. If a satisfactory voltage can be acquired with J16 disconnected, a board or component which uses the +5VDC is "dragging" it down. Turn the game off, and remove all 5V input connectors on all other boards at this time. Reconnect J16 again, and review the logic voltage on the I/O Power Driver board. Repeat the process of turning off the game, and reinstalling logic power connectors one at a time to determine the suspect board. Keep in mind that all opto switch receivers used throughout the game use the same +5VDC logic lines. If no other boards in the backbox appear to be suspect, an opto transmitter board may be at fault.

Should the game start randomly resetting, the first course of action is to measure the +5VDC on the I/O Power Driver Board. If the logic voltage is within spec., measure the +5VDC on the CPU / sound board. The +5V test point on the CPU / sound board is located just to the left of the 6809EP CPU chip (U209) on the board. If the voltage drastically differs between the measurement of the I/O Power Driver Board and the CPU / sound board, turn the game off. Remove and reseat connections CN2 on the CPU / sound board and J16 on the I/O power driver board.

4.4.1 Game Resets with DMD Controller Board Connected

This may be a bit of an anomaly, but it is worth mentioning. If when the DMD controller board is connected without the data line ribbon cables, and the game continues to reset, replacement of BRDG21 may be required.

In one particular instance, a game was resetting continually with only the +5v / ground connection connected to the DMD controller board. If the board was not connected, the driver board would output ~+5VDC. If the DMD controller board was connected, the driver board's logic line would dip down to around +4.85VDC. Logically speaking, this type of symptom somewhat points to the DMD controller board having issue. However, the end result was replacement of BRDG21 per Stern tech support.

It is worth mentioning that the bridge rectifier did test correctly (using a DMM in diode test) both in circuit and out of circuit, but these tests were conducted while the bridge was not under load.

#11 8 years ago

They are! I saved them in a word doc on an old computer. Just booted it up and found it. I didn't mean to claim I wrote them, just that I took them and put them in a document for my "notes" on the sega reset issue. I also forgot where I had found them.

Thanks for putting in the source!

hahah, the link was always in your signature I should'a known

1 year later
#15 7 years ago
Quoted from The_Director:

Had a reset of on a Whitestar Monopoly repair for a client today. Appreciate this thread, made it easy as just now running into reset issues with Whitestar board sets as they age. Sure enough, voltage was good on I/O but only 4.93 on CPU. CN2 was a little brittle feeling, so I repinned with molex .156 and brought up to 4.99, adjusted R116 slightly to 5.04 on CPU and good to go!

Glad you posted your issue and fix too!

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