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Sega Whitestar boards Rev. F - D

By brianhodgson

10 years ago



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  • Latest reply 10 years ago by viperrwk
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    #1 10 years ago

    Can a Revision D board be used in placed of a Revision F. Are there changes needed?

    #2 10 years ago

    Maybe you should be more specific. What board? CPU ? Power ? What are the board part numbers?

    #3 10 years ago

    Good point... The power board. 520-5137-00 . I have a Revision F in the game. Would a Revision D work in its place?

    #5 10 years ago

    I believe it would. I have freely swapped 520-5137 boards without care for revision.

    #6 10 years ago

    And if your not comfortable swapping without definite knowledge, call Stern. Pat or Chaz would be happy to help.

    #7 10 years ago

    Ok, slight update... Looks like the Rev F had the flipper components on the power board. Rev D did not (seperate board).. So I dont see how Rev D would work.. Am I thinking that correctly

    #8 10 years ago

    Spoke to Chaz at Stern.. says it should work.. thanks

    #9 10 years ago

    Stern was horrible with managing revisions on these boards. A rev F board simply refers to how the board was laid out for component stuffing. Rev F was used across a wide range of machines and there were a number of differences to how the boards were stuffed - this was delineated by the last two digits of the part number.

    Yet if you look at the three different schematics Stern has on its website for this board they are all Rev E and not F or G.

    http://www.sternpinball.com/downloads/IO_Power_Driver_Bd.pdf
    http://www.sternpinball.com/downloads/SharkeyIOPowerDriverBd.pdf
    http://www.sternpinball.com/downloads/IO_Power_Driver_BdNew.pdf

    There are at least four differences you might find among boards:

    1 - pin 3 on U210 has been cut to lower the watchdog voltage per SB112: http://www.sternpinball.com/downloads/sb112.pdf
    This modification is acceptable on all boards in all games going back to A13

    2 - the flipper control section (U200, U202, J4, J5, associated resistors and caps) may or may not be stuffed. I don't think this circuitry was ever used in any game though I wouldn't swear to it. If that's the case, the presence or absence of these components shouldn't affect any games.

    3 - the Sharkey tournament version of the I/O board has R245-R251 removed, two traces cut, a jumper added and F20 made a 4ASB. According to Stern this is P/N 520-5137-64 and is compatible with all W/S systems from A13 to Sharkey's except for Golden Eye and Twister (according to Stern's schematics of this board.)

    4 - the J2 aux out port has been modified where the traces to the connector have been cut and jumped over with 100 ohm resistors. This change was made Jan 2001 and I assume is necessary for any machines using playfield displays ie HRC, Monopoly, RCT, TSPP, etc.

    For example, I have a Rev F board where only #2 above applies.

    I believe the changes outlined above could be made to any I/O board so for example if you had a Rev D board and needed to put it in a TSPP, it could be modified to work in it.

    viperrwk

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