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Sega & Data East speaker upgrade help

By Tommy_Pins

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

So I’m looking into upgrading the speakers in my Batman Forever but I’m not trying to spend $150. I read the guide at www.dziedzic.us and decided to give it a shot until I realized BF speakers are stereo and the L-pad wouldn’t work. I found a stereo L-pad at parts express but it’s for two 8 ohm speakers and my speakers are 4 ohm. I can’t find a stereo L-pad for 4 ohm speakers anywhere.

The issue as I understand is that the back box speakers are louder than the cabinet speaker, and the l-pad reduces the speaker volume so the cabinet speaker can be heard. Is there another way to reduce the back box speakers volume? Would adding a small amp to the cabinet speaker essentially have the same result? Would that require its own separate power? Or is this all a big waste of time that requires more effort than it’s worth? Thanks for any help.

#2 1 year ago

You are over thinking it. The L-pad is going to vary the impedance anyways. I did this on Stern Harley Davidson, but the backbox speakers are wired in series. So I was able to balance the volume level between two series wired backbox and the mono cab speaker, except that I had already replaced the cab speaker with a subwoofer speaker lying around, which the games amp could not drive very well. I added a speaker-to-line level converter and separate 100w amplifier board to the cabinet. Now it's excellent, I can dial in any levels I want.

#3 1 year ago

That’s what I was planning until I realized the back box speakers are stereo and I can’t find a stereo l-pad for 4ohm speakers. Will the 8ohm stereo l-pad work for 4 ohm speakers?

And how did you power your amp?

#4 1 year ago
Quoted from Tommy_Pins:

That’s what I was planning until I realized the back box speakers are stereo and I can’t find a stereo l-pad for 4ohm speakers. Will the 8ohm stereo l-pad work for 4 ohm speakers?

It will be fine

Quoted from Tommy_Pins:

And how did you power your amp?

I had this adapter lying around my shop. Plenty of juice for this application. I spliced in a switched outlet after the game's power switch enclosure to turn it on and off with the game. The amp sells for $15 on Amazon (TPA3116D2 Mono Amplifier)
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#5 1 year ago

Thanks, do you have any experience with an external subwoofer? How does this compare to just hooking up a sub?

#6 1 year ago
Quoted from Tommy_Pins:

Thanks, do you have any experience with an external subwoofer? How does this compare to just hooking up a sub?

I've done external too. The sound quality is somewhat less unless you spend more on a quality subwoofer that is more powerful. You still have to run speaker and power cables, so there's no real gain there.

When mounting internally, the game cabinet becomes the speaker resonating box, so you need less power to give you some vibration that you can feel, especially in your hands. Coupled with shaker motor in the Harley pin, the whole game shakes like a motorcycle - it almost makes you feel like you should climb on and ride it.

I should note that when I have added any kind of audio upgrades my goal is just to improve the sound experience for the player, not to rattle the house windows. That's not my desire, so if you want that it would be a much different path to get there.

#7 1 year ago

Thanks, I think I’ll try to upgrade the speakers and see how it turns out.

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