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Secret Service owners club - all are welcome!


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3 years ago



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#101 5 months ago

for ball post spring I just used flipper return and cut down till enough tension . have just sent my spare cam to swinks to have 3ded copied .pinballspares aus has the cam listed . mousin around diverter has same cam mechanism and a drawing in manual showing washer position (handy)ensure right angled piece on ball post IS at 90 degree and pin that runs in cam is square to cam. just lent my spare cam to swinks to get 3d printed , or you could have it. thanks again. 3rd photo of mousin around diverter that uses same cam , but needs different spring than SS to operate . hope this helps,vance

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#102 5 months ago
Quoted from trumpy:

for ball post spring I just used flipper return and cut down till enough tension . have just sent my spare cam to swinks to have 3ded copied .pinballspares aus has the cam listed . mousin around diverter has same cam mechanism and a drawing in manual showing washer position (handy)ensure right angled piece on ball post IS at 90 degree and pin that runs in cam is square to cam. just lent my spare cam to swinks to get 3d printed , or you could have it. thanks again. 3rd photo of mousin around diverter that uses same cam , but needs different spring than SS to operate . hope this helps,vance
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Vance
Thanks This will help. Again I have most of what you said done or checked. My flat cam seems to be fine. Can you send me pic of the switch wire form that goes below the playfield? This is the wireform that I need to mock up. Also can you tell me if the ball has to keep both switches down for game to see it? I think that may be why the coil will not kick.
Mike

#103 5 months ago
Quoted from packie1:

Vance
Thanks This will help. Again I have most of what you said done or checked. My flat cam seems to be fine. Can you send me pic of the switch wire form that goes below the playfield? This is the wireform that I need to mock up. Also can you tell me if the ball has to keep both switches down for game to see it? I think that may be why the coil will not kick.
Mike

this one? kickbig wire same as outlane . ball runs over this releasing it then it contacts switch above playfield and holds it closed . in photo , the switch with red on it is outlane , on right is from kickbig. with the ball post I had to remove my right angled bracket that carries pin that runs in cam and bend it exactly 90 degrees,also I had a washer coil side of same 90 degree bracket. when I replaced it above bracket I could get cam to work correctly tension on spring is also very critical hope this helps . any thing else? , enjoy

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#104 5 months ago
Quoted from trumpy:

this one? kickbig wire same as outlane . ball runs over this releasing it then it contacts switch above playfield and holds it closed . in photo , the switch with red on it is outlane , on right is from kickbig. with the ball post I had to remove my right angled bracket that carries pin that runs in cam and bend it exactly 90 degrees,also I had a washer coil side of same 90 degree bracket. when I replaced it above bracket I could get cam to work correctly tension on spring is also very critical hope this helps . any thing else? , enjoy
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Vance
I will try your suggestions and i may have to adjust the switch wire as it seems to catch either on the wood or the metal framework.
Mike

#105 5 months ago
Quoted from trumpy:

this one? kickbig wire same as outlane . ball runs over this releasing it then it contacts switch above playfield and holds it closed . in photo , the switch with red on it is outlane , on right is from kickbig. with the ball post I had to remove my right angled bracket that carries pin that runs in cam and bend it exactly 90 degrees,also I had a washer coil side of same 90 degree bracket. when I replaced it above bracket I could get cam to work correctly tension on spring is also very critical hope this helps . any thing else? , enjoy
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Vance
I got the switch under the white house working correctly. I had an outlane wire form and I also moved the entire assy over to clear the metal framework and the wood. Still am not able to make the up post work. I reworked all of it again but can't seem to get the cam to shift to the left. If I use a spring or no spring, it just will not slide enough to allow the pin to engage into the cam. I also checked the cam and it appears to be in good shape.
If I use my finger as a stop, I can get the cam to stay in a position that will allow it to both engage and disengage. Almost seems that Data East should have had a rubber stop or another spring to pull in the opposite direction. Just need to fix this and the game is done.
Mike

#106 5 months ago

Vance
I got the switch under the white house working correctly. Just need to fix this and the game is done.
Mike</bloc if it wont move to left sounds like compression spring on top or groove in slot . pin must run on bottom of slot in cam (only just) to move left . 1st half of slot is angled , to get pin to centre of cam then spring at bottom takes over . I think that's how it works .

#107 5 months ago

Hey Mike and Vance,
Ive had similar issues with my up-post it seems to be pretty picky lol. one issue i had was the the 2 jam nuts were not holding the pin plate down tight allowing just enough play to not allow the pin to in gauge the slot. the other issue was dirt /dust build up on the spring and washers that hold the flat cam. after i fixed those issues it worked correctly Mike if you think the cam might be worn i'm in the process of recreating the flat cam since its unavailable i could send you one to test when i get the final version finished..

Bruce

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#108 5 months ago

Making some progress,
Have the new decals made for the white house and capitol upper ramp and hideout.
Just a few more to go .

Bruce

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#109 5 months ago
Quoted from bigfoot53:

Making some progress,
Have the new decals made for the white house and capitol upper ramp and hideout.
Just a few more to go .
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pinball spares Australia have the flat cam . search cam you will see it . im also sending my spare one to swinks so he can get them made via shapeways . that's come up beaut . where do you blokes get your immaculate ramps from . and did you make stickers for whitehouse.i couldn't find any and don't know how to make them , so my artist friend painted it for me . not a bad job . a few less windows but great detail

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#110 5 months ago

Guys
Thanks for the help.
Bruce I will try the nuts as I copied the Williams set-up thinking that might be why mine was not working correctly. I added the lock washers and then the flat washer, I will go back to just the flat washer and the 2 nuts. What you say makes sense now that I look at the pics from Vance and you. I am hoping to get the last detail done after I get this fixed and than I will show you the cool mod I designed for the game as well.
Mike

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#111 5 months ago
Quoted from bigfoot53:

Making some progress,
Have the new decals made for the white house and capitol upper ramp and hideout.
Just a few more to go .
Bruce [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Looks Very nice! Did you turn your matchbox car around to hide the side that got hit by the ball all the time? I did on mine, but I have since changed it to a BMX boxer as the guy I am restoring the machine for has a Boxer. hehe
Mike

#112 5 months ago
Quoted from bigfoot53:

Hey Mike and Vance,
Ive had similar issues with my up-post it seems to be pretty picky lol. one issue i had was the the 2 jam nuts were not holding the pin plate down tight allowing just enough play to not allow the pin to in gauge the slot. the other issue was dirt /dust build up on the spring and washers that hold the flat cam. after i fixed those issues it worked correctly Mike if you think the cam might be worn i'm in the process of recreating the flat cam since its unavailable i could send you one to test when i get the final version finished..
Bruce
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Bruce If I need the cam would you be opposed to sending me the 3d files for it? I have a machine to make one. Vance I checked on the site, but 22 is a little more than I want to pay plus shipping.
Mike

#113 5 months ago
Quoted from trumpy:

pinball spares Australia have the flat cam . search cam you will see it . im also sending my spare one to swinks so he can get them made via shapeways . that's come up beaut . where do you blokes get your immaculate ramps from . and did you make stickers for whitehouse.i couldn't find any and don't know how to make them , so my artist friend painted it for me . not a bad job . a few less windows but great detail
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Vance,
I made the stickers Your friend did a great job painting .

#114 5 months ago
Quoted from packie1:

Looks Very nice! Did you turn your matchbox car around to hide the side that got hit by the ball all the time? I did on mine, but I have since changed it to a BMX boxer as the guy I am restoring the machine for has a Boxer. hehe
Mike

Mike,
I didn't turn the car around I just repainted it. Going to re-print the wording and make a waterslide decal to finish it up.

#115 5 months ago

Question... is this game taller than the norm ? I have black texture coated looking legs on it & they are definitely longer than any of my other games

#116 5 months ago
Quoted from TecumsehPlissken:

Question... is this game taller than the norm ? I have black texture coated looking legs on it &amp; they are definitely longer than any of my other games

Mine are 28.5" i believe later DE games used a 30.5 leg that was chrome but not 100% on that

#117 5 months ago
Quoted from bigfoot53:

Mine are 28.5" i believe later DE games used a 30.5 leg that was chrome but not 100% on that

measured them & they are the 30 1/2" all my other games have 28 1/2" so these aren't correct then!? figures as the game was represented as undocumented HUO ha ha

#118 5 months ago
Quoted from bigfoot53:

Mine are 28.5" i believe later DE games used a 30.5 leg that was chrome but not 100% on that

Yep 28.5 are mine.
Mike

#119 5 months ago

Bruce
Made 3 of these. Just need to clean them up and try one in my game.
Thanks for your help!
Mike

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#120 5 months ago
Quoted from packie1:

Bruce
Made 3 of these. Just need to clean them up and try one in my game.
Thanks for your help!
Mike
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Awesome . Always glad to help did you use ABS or PLA ?

Bruce

#121 5 months ago

Just got the Russian embassy finished up today

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#122 5 months ago

ABS.
KGB building looks nice.
Mike

#123 5 months ago

Well My Secret Service game is done. Wifey did the testing and gave it a Thumbs UP!. Here are some pics and the mod to follow. Thanks everyone for your help with bringing this one back to life. Thanks to Bruce for the cad file on the cam.
You will notice that the capital is missing. It broke during testing, which is a good thing. Wife suggested making a clear bottom to put on first and then the capital. I am working on that and will post the design and results.

Mike

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#124 5 months ago

And here is the MOD. I think it turned out nice. Gives others something to look at besides game play. It's on a loop and goes on and off with the game. I opted for no sound. Did not want to take away from the game's music.
Mike

#125 5 months ago

Looks great Mike,
The video is awesome ...

#126 5 months ago

I'm late to the discussion but have had a Secret Service for many years now.
FAST game and the little musical thing after game over still makes me chuckle.
Luckily my game came with a large box of spare PF plastics. With all of the
air balls this game eats them.
Steve

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#127 5 months ago

here are my cards made for me by Mikonos

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#128 4 months ago

Those are nice! I like the folder card.
Mike

#129 4 months ago

Working on a Secret Service and came up with this little hack... not the most professional way in the world to deal with the issue, but I like it.

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#130 4 months ago
Quoted from Rolpa:

Working on a Secret Service and came up with this little hack... not the most professional way in the world to deal with the issue, but I like it.
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That's an ingenious fix Where did you find the limo ? Does it interfere with the ball in any way ?

Bruce

#131 4 months ago

I just received an awesome pack of game decals for my Secret service from Bigfoot53 , fantastic stuff , superb quality & he even came up with a few new surprises Great work & Thanks again Bruce!!!

#132 4 months ago

Limo was a 5$ eBay find. There's enough clearance that it doesn't interfere with the ball.

#133 4 months ago

Made some new pop bumper cap decals

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#134 4 months ago

Having a boot issue with my game, cross posting my thread from the tech forum...

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/secret-service-boot-issue#post-4953044

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#135 3 months ago

hello,

my pin has no backglass so i am looking for the grafics to reproduce it - if someone have a scan it would be great

thx mike

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#136 3 months ago

Joined the club a few weeks ago, had to clean it up a bit and change some bulbs but I have a question.. how is the left spinner working for everyone? Mine seems to go thru it smooth and fast like once out of 7-8 times thru. Most of the time it hits it and kind of limps thru it spinning it a couple times. Ive looked at the bracket and every thing seems fine.

#137 3 months ago
Quoted from Aahzz:

how is the left spinner working for everyone? Mine seems to go thru it smooth and fast like once out of 7-8 times thru.

mine plays similar , I Think its part shot geometry the right one is just so much easier to hit a ripping shot on & by comparison the left shot is just a little bit farther back there also a contributing factor Could be that the left side entrance has a large rubber ring on the one side of it as opposed to the right side with its solid metal guide ...... it is indeed a let down that I cant reliably backhand that left side

#138 3 months ago

Ok. I feel better knowing it’s part design flaw. Thanks for the quick response!

#139 3 months ago

Does anyone know if these ever come up for sale in Australia? Been trying to buy a Secret Service for nearly 2 years

#140 3 months ago
Quoted from Dansur:

Does anyone know if these ever come up for sale in Australia? Been trying to buy a Secret Service for nearly 2 years

Check out pinball owners website as might get a lead or 2 for any aussies contemplating selling theirs

#141 3 months ago
Quoted from Dansur:

Does anyone know if these ever come up for sale in Australia? Been trying to buy a Secret Service for nearly 2 years

id sell mine .all done .new pinscore display, non ghosting leds ,supabands , 2pac auto clear , ALL new decals(thank you bigfoot, packie 1)cab and p/f , new translate and glass ,etc etc etc.main fault -rust on apron DE symbol, actually that's the only fault . pm me if you want a good one

Quoted from Aahzz:

Joined the club a few weeks ago, had to clean it up a bit and change some bulbs but I have a question.. how is the left spinner working for everyone
set it up right . takes a while but well worth effort . both mine spin like a top

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