Seawitch
Stern Electronics, 1980These have been done for Fathom. Here's a link to that thread. http://tinyurl.com/y7y5e7ys If you are interested please post here and you will be added to the list. We need 25 orders to start production. The price should be close to that of the Fathom guides. Here is a link to those http://tinyurl.com/y9tq3n94
I'm interested, but I have a couple of questions.
1) What size rivets do you use to install the angle brackets to the stainless steel strips? Are you using the small head rivets like factory or are you using a larger head/larger shank rivet?
2) Are the guide strips elevated up and away from the play field surface or are they riding hard against the play field?
Quoted from cottonm4:I'm interested, but I have a couple of questions.
1) What size rivets do you use to install the angle brackets to the stainless steel strips? Are you using the small head rivets like factory or are you using a larger head/larger shank rivet?
2) Are the guide strips elevated up and away from the play field surface or are they riding hard against the play field?
We have sourced stainless steel rivets that match the size and look of the originals. I will post back what the final decision is on using them.
The guides are made to match the originals. If the originals were off the playfield then the repros would be off. If they float above the playfield I would be concerned about them wobbling on the mounting points and causing other issues. Maybe your guides were lose at some point then tightened down after this was noticed.
Same with the mounting points. If they have two holes then the repros would have two holes.
It looks like we are getting good interest on these. Does anyone have a donner set we can use to make these? We don't own this game.
I already posted that I have a donor set that you can use (see post #5 above) and I'm not that far away (livonia, mi)
Quoted from Orbian:We have sourced stainless steel rivets that match the size and look of the originals. I will post back what the final decision is on using them.
The guides are made to match the originals. If the originals were off the playfield then the repros would be off. If they float above the playfield I would be concerned about them wobbling on the mounting points and causing other issues. Maybe your guides were lose at some point then tightened down after this was noticed.
Same with the mounting points. If they have two holes then the repros would have two holes.
It looks like we are getting good interest on these. Does anyone have a donner set we can use to make these? We don't own this game.
Thank you.
I will be in for one set.
Quoted from Orbian:These are the 3 guides I have pictures of. Since neither of us has the machine. Is there anything missing that should be included with this set?
I'm not at home to look at my Seawitch but I think you have what is needed.
I don't know how others feel about this but you should consider producing the one-way ball gate, too. All it is is a 1" piece of aluminum angle and approximately 6" of .010" of stainless steel riveted to the angle to make a one way flap door.
Quoted from cottonm4:I'm not at home to look at my Seawitch but I think you have what is needed.
I don't know how others feel about this but you should consider producing the one-way ball gate, too. All it is is a 1" piece of aluminum angle and approximately 6" of .010" of stainless steel riveted to the angle to make a one way flap door.
+1 for this suggestion. This is a part that breaks easily and people have to hand make replacements.
We need to get 8 more orders to move this project forward. I have a separate post for Star Gazer guides and it is moving forward.
Quoted from Sly311271:Here are the Metalgate
one square are 0,5 cm
total length = 15,5 cm
total width = 2,5 cm
Length 15 cm = 5.90 inches.
You would need to make the gate one inch to two inches longer.
Why? Because when you hit a ball going into the orbit from the left side and as it flies around it slams into the gate and makes the gate flex which throws off how the ball is supposed to travel. The gate flexes and drops down and sort of springs back and pushes the ball away from the right upper flipper. This makes it hard to get a double orbit shot.
A gate that is two inches longer allows for some tension to be preloaded into the gate and helps to get a more solid shot. I took my Cliffy gate off within a couple of hours of installing it and made one from polycarbonate that I was able to tension to a point where I get no flex.
Two inches might be a bit too long but any excess can be clipped of with some tin snips and the length can be fine tuned.
Quoted from j_m_:Orbian
are we getting close enough that you'll want me to send the donor set?
When the Star Gazer guides are completed we will move forward with these. I'll let you know when to send those and where. I'm hoping it will be soon!
Thanks!
current list:
xeneize 1
bluespin 1
j.m. 1 (providing the donor set)
8STxaggie 1
cottonm4 1
gabegabegabe 1
paddlepaw 1
dothedoo 1
MattS 1
kickabit 1
indy5mike 1
Venom_249 1
Talon2000 1
leaffan67 1
parabol420 1
jeffmd72 1
megadeth2600 1
ibuypinballs 1
Tsskinne 1
KHL 2
Lovef2k 1
total: 22
Quoted from j_m_:that's 25 of us now
Yes I see! The Star Gazer guides are being worked on now. These will be started when those are finished. We're still trying to get feedback on the under playfield support brackets. We need to know if they're the same on all playfields or game specific?
Quoted from Orbian:Yes I see! The Star Gazer guides are being worked on now. These will be started when those are finished. We're still trying to get feedback on the under playfield support brackets. We need to know if they're the same on all playfields or game specific?
I have had 4 different F2K games and only one of them had the pf supports. I have also seen them on a Meteor. So atleast the top piece will be longer on the wide body games. IIRC, the hole spacing was equal along the length of the supports making them non game specific? I do remember that the spacing coincided with the screw holes going through to the wood side rails, meaning that the screws holding the supports also held the wood rails to the pf. So maybe they are game specific.
I'd be more interested in a reproduction pf support hanger, the 2 brackets that slide into the lockdown receiver. These are usually rust and bent.
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