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Scoring wheel stuck at start of new game

By Cardsrulelt

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

I have a EM Bally Captain Fantastic that has one of the wheels upon start up if it’s not on zero the game will continually try to reset it reset it reset it. If it starts off on 0 the game starts perfectly but if it starts on any number besides zero it will continuously try to reset it self. I am very new to EM pinball machines and have looked at a few videos and it seems to me that you can have one problem and several different avenues that will cause it. One of which may be a dirty sprocket or a loose spring or a connector stuck open or needing to file the connectors or a bevy of anything else. So I’m looking for a consensus of what I can do to try to fix it myself without having to resort to calling the local pinball machine repair guy. Please help thanks in advance.

#2 4 years ago

Sounds like a dirty or misgapped switch in the score motor or relay. I dont know the schematics of that game but that's where I would start. Make sure the switches are gapped properly and when the close they make a good connection.

#3 4 years ago

does that particular score reel move ok during gameplay ?

I would suspect ONE of the many leaf switches on the "reset relays" is either dirty or out of alignment or the "switch stack" needs to be tightened

http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index2.htm#clean
I don't use a file myself anymore simply a piece of plain paper might do the trick but I use the "magic brush" method now.

video of demonstration from this link:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/nics-american-pinball-tour-aka-im-coming-to-fix-your-games/page/47#post-5120291

#4 4 years ago

Hi Chuck, Welcome to pinside!

Which score wheel and which player?

#5 4 years ago

Thank you. It’s player 1, 100 reel

#6 4 years ago
Quoted from Cardsrulelt:

one of the wheels upon start up if it’s not on zero the game will continually try to reset it

Quoted from Cardsrulelt:

It’s player 1, 100 reel

Quoted from chas10e:

does that particular score reel move ok during gameplay ?

If that score reel moves OK during gameplay, Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features

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#7 4 years ago

Yes they move ok during play. New to reading Greek aka schematics lol

#8 4 years ago

So it doesn't move at start but works fine during the game? Does sound like the motor in the bottom of the cab. Dont know what it's called. My mars trek did that when I got it. Guess I was lucky, I just had to clean the stacks and regap them. Been working since.

#9 4 years ago
Quoted from 85vett:

So it doesn't move at start but works fine during the game? Does sound like the motor in the bottom of the cab. Dont know what it's called. My mars trek did that when I got it. Guess I was lucky, I just had to clean the stacks and regap them. Been working since.

I think he means it doesn't move to reset to zero.

the "#1 reset relay"(in the head) the white-wire-w/black tracer contacts are probably dirty or mis-adjusted

during startup the reset relays will be the ones clacking back & forth in the head while game is trying to reset ... if the reel kinda moves turn all the lights off it'll be the one throwing all the sparks

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#10 4 years ago

So I’ll look for the one throwing sparks. Then what?

#11 4 years ago
Quoted from Cardsrulelt:

So I’ll look for the one throwing sparks. Then what?

see post #3, clean the contacts , tighten the switch stacks, adjust the blades if need be. the video if you can access it is terrific: https://www.facebook.com/nicholas.schell/videos/10156172583066806/

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