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#3551 4 years ago
Quoted from dnaman:

I apologize in advance regarding this question as I am not sure if it has been asked in various ways.
Is it common to have an issue with the right VUK not always kicking the ball onto the ramp above? I am looking at a restored SS and it seems that early games seem to fire up and onto the ramp with success and then it seems to be fit and miss. the current owner has bent the blue steel flap up a little which helps but sometimes the pin tries a few times and then the ball ejects under the ramp onto the PF.
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!

Yes, it's common. I've had to tweak mine several times.

#3552 4 years ago
Quoted from dnaman:

I apologize in advance regarding this question as I am not sure if it has been asked in various ways.
Is it common to have an issue with the right VUK not always kicking the ball onto the ramp above? I am looking at a restored SS and it seems that early games seem to fire up and onto the ramp with success and then it seems to be fit and miss. the current owner has bent the blue steel flap up a little which helps but sometimes the pin tries a few times and then the ball ejects under the ramp onto the PF.
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!

Very common. I just dealt with the very same issue on a SS I bought a few months ago. There are different fixes suggested in this and other threads. For me, it involved unscrewing the 4 screws below the playfield that hold the VUK assembly to the playfield, then adding washers to adjust the angle of the VUK. My ball was hitting the front edge of the ramp and not clearing the flap cleanly. So I added washers to the other side (the two bottom screws when looking at the assembly from under the playfield) and it caused the ball to fire further toward the rear of the hole. Problem solved, it clears the hole now. There are other methods too.

#3553 4 years ago

Great to hear! Thanks for the detailed suggestion

#3554 4 years ago

Anyone know why there is two holes in the remote and two under the flipper pivot points . I know about the adjustment holes . I’m thinking maybe there is suppose to be a wire guide or something .

#3555 4 years ago
Quoted from Pbgixxer:

Anyone know why there is two holes in the remote and two under the flipper pivot points . I know about the adjustment holes . I’m thinking maybe there is suppose to be a wire guide or something .

You are correct, there are holes for a ball wire guide under each flipper. I am not sure they were never installed but the clear dimples into the holes.

#3556 4 years ago

Officially joined the club tonight with a gorgeous restore!

The VUK does have trouble kicking the ball up to the ramp sometimes. I will have to try some of the suggestions and maybe slow motion video capture the action.

Fun pin though and a cool theme.

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#3557 4 years ago

Wow, such a beautiful example of SS you found. I love my SS. It's the only game I like enough to consider buying a $1k new playfield and installing it. I can't imagine how complicated that work will be, but I may have to consider buying a rotisserie and making it happen. Has anyone else installed a new pf in their SS? How was it?

#3558 4 years ago

My games are relegated to the dungeon basement space beneath my office. I do an okay job of keeping dust down but I've still been wanting to find some theme-adjusted pinball covers on the cheap.

The Elvira one is probably my favorite. If I know I'm not going to get to play for a couple days, I throw em on.

Found it on redbubble.com, searched for Tapestry Elvira Coffin and this is the small size. I didn't find many with direct art from related pinball but found a few that were theme-adjacent enough to make it work. Not my art or anything just thought I'd share.

Know of any comprehensive sources with pinball art /covers available online? I've seen them tucked away at shows and a few generics at the usual parts suppliers..

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#3559 4 years ago
Quoted from dnaman:

Officially joined the club tonight with a gorgeous restore!
The VUK does have trouble kicking the ball up to the ramp sometimes. I will have to try some of the suggestions and maybe slow motion video capture the action.
Fun pin though and a cool

Fun game isnt it? I put in a green trough light, and a 50smd led across the front of game, looks real nice

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#3560 4 years ago

And pinball life speaker lights. I bought some wood spider webs off etsy, .75 each, painted silver and glued a magnet on back

#3561 4 years ago
Quoted from visi0n:

Know of any comprehensive sources with pinball art /covers available online?

You can always go to one of those websites that make custom blankets. They are not expensive and you can use any image you want!
collage.com or shutterfly

#3562 4 years ago
Quoted from visi0n:

My games are relegated to the dungeon basement space beneath my office. I do an okay job of keeping dust down but I've still been wanting to find some theme-adjusted pinball covers on the cheap.
The Elvira one is probably my favorite. If I know I'm not going to get to play for a couple days, I throw em on.
Found it on redbubble.com, searched for Tapestry Elvira Coffin and this is the small size. I didn't find many with direct art from related pinball but found a few that were theme-adjacent enough to make it work. Not my art or anything just thought I'd share.
Know of any comprehensive sources with pinball art /covers available online? I've seen them tucked away at shows and a few generics at the usual parts suppliers..[quoted image]

I am, honestly, really more curious where you got that Indiana Jones one..?

#3563 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

I am, honestly, really more curious where you got that Indiana Jones one..?

Same place. That was my first order to see how it went and I bought the others more recently with a coupon code.

Link to Indy one:

https://tinyurl.com/tjytcjy

#3564 4 years ago

I have a problem with my leapers, they work flawlessly as long as the ball don't hit them too hard, but if the ball travels too fast the leaper jumps up but the switch behind it doesn't register at all. This means that about 30-40% of the ball hits never registers in the game, which is annoying.

I have been thinking I perhaps could bend the metal leafs inside the switches closer, so the circuit closes faster when hit, but there isn't much gap as of now already so not sure its possible and/or will fix anything.

Anyone have a suggestion how to fix this issue? Is this the same for you too or unique to my machine?

#3565 4 years ago
Quoted from Lhyrgoif:

I have a problem with my leapers, they work flawlessly as long as the ball don't hit them too hard, but if the ball travels too fast the leaper jumps up but the switch behind it doesn't register at all. This means that about 30-40% of the ball hits never registers in the game, which is annoying.
I have been thinking I perhaps could bend the metal leafs inside the switches closer, so the circuit closes faster when hit, but there isn't much gap as of now already so not sure its possible and/or will fix anything.
Anyone have a suggestion how to fix this issue? Is this the same for you too or unique to my machine?

What Game rom version are you running,
CPU Rom [G11] Version 1.5 (This listing is the most current official release)

Revision History: (Included for reference)
Version 1.5
Date: February 7, 1997
G11: Checksum: C015

Changes from revision 1.4:

Improved Coffin Multiball display effect.
Eliminated problem at ball start that could cause resets.
Deadheads now award the correct value.
Fixed skill shot bug that denied points to players 2,3, and 4.
Coffin jam compensation improved.
Attract Mode Spider adjustment improved to allow operator-
settable delays.
Fixed bad switch logic on Leaper targets.
Fixed broken spider logic.
Fixed lamps for a broken spider.

#3566 4 years ago
Quoted from kdunbar:

What Game rom version are you running,
CPU Rom [G11] Version 1.5 (This listing is the most current official release)
Revision History: (Included for reference)
Version 1.5
Date: February 7, 1997
G11: Checksum: C015
Changes from revision 1.4:
Improved Coffin Multiball display effect.
Eliminated problem at ball start that could cause resets.
Deadheads now award the correct value.
Fixed skill shot bug that denied points to players 2,3, and 4.
Coffin jam compensation improved.
Attract Mode Spider adjustment improved to allow operator-
settable delays.
Fixed bad switch logic on Leaper targets.
Fixed broken spider logic.
Fixed lamps for a broken spider.

Just checked and I'm running 1.5 already, so already on latest ROM.

I'm still wondering if this is a general problem or only on my machine, any of you have this behavior too?

#3567 4 years ago

If anyone is interested, I'm selling my excellent condition Scared Stiff, nicely modded with numbers matching boards. Come by and check it out if you are in the area!

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#3568 4 years ago

Picked up s box of old boogey men recently, my granddaughter really likes em. Have 10 or 12 for sale if anyone needs. These are old ones with wiggly arms

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#3569 4 years ago

She decided she needed some too haha

#3570 4 years ago

Sold em all, no more messages please

#3571 4 years ago

Just did a full resto on mine with new PF, decals, etc...
Pretty happy with the result.
Next; Whirlwind!

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#3572 4 years ago

Wow, that’s one nice SS. Good job! How did you make the Boney Beast ramp glow like that?

#3573 4 years ago
Quoted from Lethal_Inc:

Wow, that’s one nice SS. Good job! How did you make the Boney Beast ramp glow like that?

Prolly an LED strip

#3574 4 years ago

I got a 50smd from comet and put it under backbox above the beast. Was a bit too bright in the middle was reflecting off decal in front of crate, so I out a 3" piece of elec tape over the center of led strip. Looks great

#3575 4 years ago

Pic about 15 or 20 posts back

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#3576 4 years ago
Quoted from NPO:

Prolly an LED strip

Exactly!

#3577 4 years ago

Hi guys, just a question regarding the spider spinner. I put a new stepper motor and board in as the spinner never worked when I bought the machine, when the game boots up the spider indicator stops at the 1'o clock position. Is that correct as per the original boards as well? Thanks in advance.
Cheers Terry.

#3578 4 years ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Sold em all, no more messages please

I just bought a bunch off eBay or Amazon. I thought they were specific mods for Scared Stiff. You can simply search for “rubber monster finger puppets.” They are cheap. $1 each. See below.

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#3579 4 years ago

I still have my original Scared Stiff DMD for sale. (replaced with color)

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#3580 4 years ago
Quoted from PURPLEBAT:

Hi guys, just a question regarding the spider spinner. I put a new stepper motor and board in as the spinner never worked when I bought the machine, when the game boots up the spider indicator stops at the 1'o clock position. Is that correct as per the original boards as well? Thanks in advance.

Cheers Terry.

Yes that is correct

#3581 4 years ago
Quoted from Pinkitten:

I just bought a bunch off eBay or Amazon. I thought they were specific mods for Scared Stiff. You can simply search for “rubber monster finger puppets.” They are cheap. $1 each. See below.[quoted image]

I had some of those too, but they are stiff. The wiggly arms really look better

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#3582 4 years ago

Still having issues will the spider VUK kick up and forward. Although it often works, there will be times when it doesn't.

I had a friend send me pics of his, which never has kick out issues and see that he has this metal arch over the hole on/above the ramp. Any references online show this as a ramp 'ramp fix U bracket'. I've seen a couple of other owners in here with this installed. Is this supposed to solve the kick up problem or help protect the ramp and spine?

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#3583 4 years ago

I have a new right side cabinet decal for sale, $125 shipped in the lower 48. If interested pm me.

Thanks,

MustangPaul

#3584 4 years ago
Quoted from dnaman:

Is this supposed to solve the kick up problem or help protect the ramp and spine?

That metal arch keeps the ball from flying off the ramp and adds strength when it kicks out of the VUK. The geometry of the that ramp VUK is really touchy! The best way to get your VUK to operate between 95 and 100% (because that is about the best you can get) is to tweak the angle of the VUK (providing your VUK and ramp are installed correctly) just a bit either way to get it to fire correctly. It takes some patients but persistence will pay off.

#3585 4 years ago

Went to a friend's place tonight to look at his scared stiff and I am clearly missing a full second flap! (lower gate trap door and flap). Although I have now found a detailed description of what is missing, there doesn't seem to be either any photos or detailed diagram anywhere, including in the manual.

The description of the assembly is:
'Bally SCARED STIFF pinball machine A-21032 Trapdoor Assembly'.

Of the itemized parts which make up the assembly, I do actually have the 01-14385.1 bracket installed along with the #12-7365 wire gate on it. This is the wire/gate on the upper side of the spider hole (when you short plunge, the ball opens the wire gate and drops into the topside of the spider hole). I assume that most SS owners have this bracket and wire gate, as well as the flap which is riveted right on the beast ramp itself, covering the back portion of the hole in the beast ramp.

Now on the 01-14385.1 bracket, there is an extended top which has two holes to hinge (using the straight wire/bar hinge 12-7346) the missing the gate trap door, which should also have a long flap riveted to it. This flap goes through the beast ramp hole and rests on the front (not the one that sits above it riveted to the actual beast ramp. So when the ball is kicked up from the spider VUK, it hits the underside of the long flap on the gate trap door bracket and lifts letting the ball up and onto the beast ramp, it then closes behind to prevent the ball from going back down into the VUK.

Missing:
04-10457.1 gate trap door (this is apparently not pictured or available anywhere)
12-7346 Wire hinge (straight wire/bar)
2 rivets and flap (although I don't need the 2 rivets)

Here are some pictures of what is full assembly, installed is supposed to look like. If anyone know where to order the 04-10457.1 gate trap door, please let me know otherwise I will try to make something.

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#3586 4 years ago
Quoted from dnaman:

Still having issues will the spider VUK kick up and forward. Although it often works, there will be times when it doesn't.
I had a friend send me pics of his, which never has kick out issues and see that he has this metal arch over the hole on/above the ramp. Any references online show this as a ramp 'ramp fix U bracket'. I've seen a couple of other owners in here with this installed. Is this supposed to solve the kick up problem or help protect the ramp and spine?[quoted image][quoted image]

I actually removed it on mine, flap was hitting it, causing rejects.
I've set it aside just in case but it works better without it in mine.

#3587 4 years ago
Quoted from Nihonmasa:

I actually removed it on mine, flap was hitting it, causing rejects.
I've set it aside just in case but it works better without it in mine.

Same. Works almost flawless without it so i kept it off. sometimes takes 2 tries but overall 95% success.

#3588 4 years ago
Quoted from Nihonmasa:

I actually removed it on mine, flap was hitting it, causing rejects.
I've set it aside just in case but it works better without it in mine.

Quoted from jchybro:

Same. Works almost flawless without it so i kept it off. sometimes takes 2 tries but overall 95% success.

Very interesting to hear this. Everything on this SS in that area is brand new (or new old stock) from the full ramp to the full spider VUK assembly but I am just getting too many rejects. I've tried everything that I can think of to dial it in but still rejects too often. I will try to make this piece up but it doesn't give me a lot of hope hearing this.

#3589 4 years ago
Quoted from dnaman:

Very interesting to hear this. Everything on this SS in that area is brand new (or new old stock) from the full ramp to the full spider VUK assembly but I am just getting too many rejects. I've tried everything that I can think of to dial it in but still rejects too often. I will try to make this piece up but it doesn't give me a lot of hope hearing this.

Are you able to see exactly which side of the scoop or ramp hole is causing the rejects? I had to use my cell phone video with a slo-mo feature to see exactly which side it was hitting. Mine was hitting the front, right edge of the ramp hole. I added washers under the assembly to correct the angle and after some trial and error, it’s 95% now. If the angle of your ball trajectory isn’t the problem, maybe it’s the VUK or up-post?

#3590 4 years ago

I just started getting an Error Message on my Scared Stiff at startup for the Sound Board (U2 CKSUM Error) and Sound Error SY. 3.65 - I no longer have proper audio, just a horrible buzzing sound. I tried unplugging and restarting but no luck. If it is a bad ROM (U2) is there some place I can send the board for repair as I don't have the technical skills to remove/install myself. Much thanks for any guidance & advice, and I'll list my e-mail in case it's easier to pop me a note directly.
Mark
[email protected]

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#3591 3 years ago

anybody know where to get the full flipper assemblies for this game. what's factory coil that comes on each?

#3592 3 years ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

anybody know where to get the full flipper assemblies for this game. what's factory coil that comes on each?

Pinballlife.com
You can get them preassembled.

#3593 3 years ago

whats the coils 29's or 30's?

#3594 3 years ago

29s.

#3595 3 years ago

I have a question..... the original Scared Stiff posters...were they 18x24 and were they on glossy stock? ....Thanks!

EDIT: Never mind, just found out the one I was looking at is a repro!

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#3596 3 years ago

Wondering if anyone has some individual extra plastics lying around? I have a broken plastic behind the right leaper, just at the entrance to the lab and I can't seem to find it anywhere other than part of a set. I don't need any of the others, so figured I would ask here first. Anyone have a spare of this plastic and willing to part with it? PM me a price! Thanks in advance.

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#3597 3 years ago
Quoted from Calfdemon:

Wondering if anyone has some individual extra plastics lying around? I have a broken plastic behind the right leaper, just at the entrance to the lab and I can't seem to find it anywhere other than part of a set. I don't need any of the others, so figured I would ask here first. Anyone have a spare of this plastic and willing to part with it? PM me a price! Thanks in advance.[quoted image]

I dont have the plastic, sorry. If your plastic looks nice, apart from being broken off, you could try repair it.

I've had success using superglue to glue a broken plastic together and then cutting a part of a smaller size ziptie into two shorter strips and gluing them over the crack on the backside as reinforcement. If the crack is clean and no plastic is missing it will be hard to see that its repaired and the reinforcement make sure it wont break that easily again. I have plastics repaired in this way that still havent broken again after several years.

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#3598 3 years ago
Quoted from Lhyrgoif:

I dont have the plastic, sorry. If your plastic looks nice, apart from being broken off, you could try repair it.
I've had success using superglue to glue a broken plastic together and then cutting a part of a smaller size ziptie into two shorter strips and gluing them over the crack on the backside as reinforcement. If the crack is clean and no plastic is missing it will be hard to see that its repaired and the reinforcement make sure it wont break that easily again. I have plastics repaired in this way that still havent broken again after several years.

Sounds like a good solution for a freshly broken plastic that is all there. Unfortunately, mine was broken prior to me owning this pin (just getting to this after a year) and I am missing the whole top part of the plastic where it it attaches to the post. It is tightened down tight enough by the leaper that it keeps it in place (mostly), but is missing the top mount spots by the entrance to the lab. Figured I would try to source a solo plastic somewhere before I bite the bullet and have to buy a whole set. If I had the missing parts, I would try to fix it, but his one is just not worth saving at this point.

#3599 3 years ago

Does anyone have a completed file set for Pin2DMD available? I am ready to donate to the cause.

#3600 3 years ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

anybody know where to get the full flipper assemblies for this game. what's factory coil that comes on each?

Just a PSA for those who might have experienced what I have.

Back in 2019 a friend did a beautiful restore on the SS that we purchased. I always found that the right flipper seemed sluggish but just accepted it. It wasn't until this past weekend when I started to experience some binding in the flipper that I delved in. Looking underneath, there was some black carbon dust on the flipper link and pawl etc... but I immediately noticed that the two flipper coils weren't the same. The right flipper coil was a white label and the left coil was a blue label.

Long story long...

The manual that I have, which the pin was restored is a Preliminary release and shows:

SS Manual: July 1996 16-500484A-101 [Preliminary]

Oddly, every reference to the two main flipper coils do show as FL-11629 (BLUE), EXCEPT for the actual exploded assembly diagrams!

(page 2-16) A-14876-R-3 (Right) Flipper assembly: item#12: FL-20867, Flipper Coil WHITE
(page 2-17) A-15849-L-2 (Left) Flipper assembly: items#12: FL-11629, Flipper Coil BLUE (appears to be the strongest flipper coil strength(?))

A WHITE label coil is a weaker coil compared to a BLUE and the only reference that I can find for this coil is that it is for use in a Safe Cracker. Safe Cracker is a smaller sized pinball so understandably it would have weaker flipper coils.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Compare this to the latest online version of the manual from IPDB and clearly this flipper coil was upgraded in the exploded diagram to reflect an FL-11629 for both Left and Right

SS Manual: Sept 1996 16-500484-101 [FINAL]
(page 2-18) A-14876-R-3 (Right) Flipper assembly: item#12: FL-11629, Flipper Coil BLUE
(page 2-19) A-15849-L-2 (Left) Flipper assembly: items#12: FL-11629, Flipper Coil BLUE

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Although my binding issue was unrelated to the coil, once I replaced the coil and fixed the binding I could immediately see the difference in play. I can now shoot the crate from the RT flipper with relative ease. Previously every other shot attempt wouldn't make it into the crate, from the RT flipper so I used the LT predominantly.

Hopefully this helps someone else in the future!

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