Your very lucky to be getting your money back.
-Mike

Good to see the heads up. I wonder if we will see the other side of the story at any point?

In the meantime, it may be helpful if you can provide any other identifying information (pinside name, etc) just because, beleive it or not, a lot of transactions may happen without ever knowing someone's full name!

(just no personally identifiable info like home address posted of course!)

$2500 for a RBIOn and a Tycoon? If it sounds to good to be true... it probably is.

It looks like it was $2500 for RBION, Tycoon and a slot machine...

No. That had to be a deposit.

In all fairness the 2500 may have been a deposit...

Is Dan the guy carpetbombing Facebook pinball for sale groups with semi-literate rants about "RED NECK FAGS" who stole his money?

Sucks that he got scammed but the guy certainly benefits from a spokesperson like 93cobra.

Thanks for sharing info to us about this scammer.

Curious if you don't mind sharing - what was the total "deal" price of RBION, RCT and Juke Box?

I had actually asked Kyle (in December I think) about a price for RCT and he wouldn't quote me. Just said he had too much in it so he wanted a lot out of it.

That sucks! I've bought things from Danny Dippolito in CO before and everything went well - sounds like he is going to get the short end of the stick.

That makes more sense. I saw Dan blowing you up on Facebook and was like, "No way Chris is in on this mess."

Semi-literate? You're kind, Levi.

This guy has been selling Multicades here in the north metro Atl. area for quite some time. I guess he just decided to go out with a bang(scam). If I see him, I will get a couple of hundred in fingers, for you!

I agree. I recognize Chris' name. I think I bought Star Trek Pro from him over email and PayPal. Stand up guy.

I'm surprised PayPal would return funds. Was money sent friends and family or as regular business transaction?

Kyle Fuller is a known scammer. He's done this before and will again unless you get the authorities involved.

https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=352155

Wow.

You and Daniel were both involved with a scammer named Kyle, which is very unfortunate.

But you were able to retrieve 100% of your cash back at Daniel's expense, not Kyle's.

If you really do hate that for him, you could always split the loss.

God invented paragraphs for a reason.

Okay lemme stop you there ... a guy you met once or twice texts you at 2:30am asking you to paypal him cash because he ran out of money at the casino but doesn't want to quit gambling yet ...... and you're like "hmmm, lemme check if i have the funds."

Dude! How could you possibly not think this was shady as hell?

Ugh, it sucks that your children and family were affected by this drug-addict gambling-addict dirtbag and I'm glad you pretty much got all your money back, and i'm not normally one to blame the victim, but you gotta be smarter than that. Live and learn I suppose.

Anyway, thanks for spreading the word about a scammer. That's a positive contribution to the community.

Uh, big, giant red flag right there. Honestly, what made you think that this was ok to do once, let alone a half dozen times?

That's what con men do. They gain your trust in some way, and exploit that.

Indeed. He saw an easy mark, and you got taken advantage of big time. You're not a bank...don't loan people money, especially to someone who says he's out gambling.

You can't think "we're buddies, he would never do xyz to me". Well, people can do that, as you've found out. If at any point that you have a small nagging thought "is this a scam?", then it probably is. Not enough people listen to that gut reaction and allow their emotions to override that or try to justify it in some way in their mind.

See, I 100% agree with you!

Um, 100% lie might be the answer.

Way, way, way too hokey of a story! You sold him a $1600.00 pin originally because of $ problems, yet within a month YOU are in a position to be transferring around $4600? I know of this guy Kyle, as he has been around Atlanta for a while, but your entire story is just as janky as Kyle himself.

I bought a pin from a Dealer in MASS.He had a TAFG I had been wanting for a long time!Here's what you do!In good faith,he asked for a deposit,as i told him I wanted the pin,but had to wait 2 months for the money.This was the truth.So,I sent him the deposit he asked for by Western Union! Now,I have his photo when he went to get his cash.and, He also had to show his I;D as well! Insurance! He was happy,and I got the pin I wanted !Please be careful Pinheads,the seasoned scammers are looking for you!!!

I don't think you quite read the story well enough.

You are correct, I had to read the drama again. None the less, anybody willing to even entertain the first solicitation at 2:30 AM is open for fleecing!

Haha, I do agree there. Especially after the guy said it was to continue gambling. *click* hang up the phone.....

This guy Kyle can't even figure out how to launder money off a credit card without someone else being involved.

I just got this message from PayPal ---- "Bernie Madoff has sent you $20,000,000.00". Should I open it? JK. Sounds like this guy Kyle has quite an extensive, dubious and problematic history.

Thanks for sharing, and do be wary of scammers (and run on sentences, and paragraph usage...or lack thereof).

The "con" in "con man" is literally "confidence." 90% of the scam is getting your trust. At that point, human nature kicks in, and we tend to not want to believe that our "friend" could be doing this.

Edit: For future reference, the anatomy of a con game
In Confessions of a Confidence Man, Edward H. Smith lists the "six definite steps or stages of growth" of a confidence game. He notes that some steps may be omitted.

Foundation Work
Preparations are made in advance of the game, including the hiring of any assistants required.
Approach
The victim is contacted.
Build-up
The victim is given an opportunity to profit from a scheme. The victim's greed is encouraged, such that their rational judgment of the situation might be impaired.
Pay-off or Convincer
The victim receives a small payout as a demonstration of the scheme's effectiveness. This may be a real amount of money, or faked in some way. In a gambling con, the victim is allowed to win several small bets. In a stock market con, the victim is given fake dividends.
The Hurrah
A sudden crisis or change of events forces the victim to act immediately. This is the point at which the con succeeds or fails.
The In-and-In
A conspirator (in on the con, but assumes the role of an interested bystander) puts an amount of money into the same scheme as the victim, to add an appearance of legitimacy to the scheme. This can reassure the victim, and give the con man greater control when the deal has been completed.
-- from the wiki page(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick)
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The midnight call was "The Hurrah," in your case.

Call me at 2:30 in the morning and I will make the Dying Fetus vocals sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Do not take paypal for ANYTHING unless you want to run the risk of a charge back. There are a dozen reasons why you should never do this.

I would ONLY take paypal under one circumstance. For a small deposit (say $100) to hold a machine and when that person picked the machine I would refund their $100 paypal deposit, and he would repay it in cash with the balance.

With if a paypal user pays via paypal and uses a credit card as his funding source, he has up to 1 year to do a charge back. And can do a charge back for pretty much any damn reason he wants. I had this occur to me to the tune of $27,000. It took me a year to recover $22k of that amount.

NEVER take paypal.

have used it to buy and sell with other well known pinsiders and it was easy and flawless. Also used it for transaction via pinballowners for a "known" individual. No issues (other than paypal's fees!!!) So, I wouldn't say "NEVER".

I agree Wickerman, I use it with Pinsiders quite a bit. But I don't guess either one of us was screwed outta 27k. Cause if I had been, I would 1000% always say NEVER.
Sorry to hear that KY. Hope you sicced some Sons of Silence on that pos.

Maybe he won RBION and Tycoon by putting $2,500 into the slot machine?

The nearly immaculate action figure, lol.

What about the portion of the heart disease? Just curious if that was also a lie from the Kyle guy since more than five months have now passed.

Please allow me to make your post readable:

"Wow excuse me word police.

Guess I shouldn't use swype text to get my story out there to warn others of which apparently some didn't bother to read in full. A fool I was as I would've never believed Kyle would pull something like this.

However, I figured if it were a scam there would be no way Paypal would've released the money to him. The transaction was completely 100% legit as the company and card had his name on it.

The problem is when his poor mother received her statement totaling over $40,000. She was the primary card holder and issued him a card.

Had she not filed the chargeback there wouldn't have been an issue, but I do not blame her as she didn't know anything about the shady deals he was making.

She had a choice to tell American Express that her son scammed her sending him to jail and me getting my money back.

Luckily Paypal fraud department after hearing what happened returned my money and said if his mom wanted to cover the cost then she could or send him to jail.

Anyway it's been a lesson well learned and I was a newbie in this whole arcade and pinball world when it happened.

Now I do not deal with Paypal whatsoever. It's cash and carry.

P.S. The whole story I told was 100% the truth regardless of the pessimist doubting me."

Imamaculate

No, a jar of dirt....

I too want to know about the heart condition story!?!

Man sorry to hear this Chris, glad your getting your money back. I was not as lucky in a Similar incident I sent money to some joker that was selling a T2 2700.00 poor gone.