SCAM: Kyle Fuller out of Georgia - Be Careful!


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7 months ago


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    #1 7 months ago

    Just a PSA for everyone. I was scammed into sending someone money for a pair of pinballs (Tycoon and RBION) and an old slot machine last week. This was to a guy by the name of Kyle Fuller, whom Jason Wilson and I both have bought games from before. He actually hit up Jason and I both for this deal, Jason passed on it and I took him up on it. He had me send the money to another guy in the hobby, Daniel Dippolito. I had no idea it was going to someone else, I was just given an email to send the money to via PayPal. He then got Daniel to send the money to him via a service at Walmart.
    Either way, I want to make folks aware of what has happened that it might not happen to you. Kyle has turned off all his forms of communication and claimed to be moving out of state to Colorado to Jason and I, from Suwannee, Georgia. Just giving you guys a heads up. It took me doing some detective work, finding his parents in George via google and an address he'd given me and Jason to check shipping prices. Jenn May was supposed to pick these games up for me and alerted me to not being able to get in touch with him which is how I moved fast on it all. Please be careful out there. It does appear that I will be getting my money back through PayPal and the bank working together. However, I'm afraid Daniel may not. It was $2500, so that's not easy for anyone to lose these days.

    #2 7 months ago

    Your very lucky to be getting your money back.
    -Mike

    #3 7 months ago

    Good to see the heads up. I wonder if we will see the other side of the story at any point?

    In the meantime, it may be helpful if you can provide any other identifying information (pinside name, etc) just because, beleive it or not, a lot of transactions may happen without ever knowing someone's full name!

    (just no personally identifiable info like home address posted of course!)

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    #4 7 months ago

    $2500 for a RBIOn and a Tycoon? If it sounds to good to be true... it probably is.

    #5 7 months ago
    Quoted from d0n:

    $2500 for a RBIOn and a Tycoon? If it sounds to good to be true... it probably is.

    It looks like it was $2500 for RBION, Tycoon and a slot machine...

    #6 7 months ago

    No. That had to be a deposit.

    #7 7 months ago

    In all fairness the 2500 may have been a deposit...

    #8 7 months ago

    Is Dan the guy carpetbombing Facebook pinball for sale groups with semi-literate rants about "RED NECK FAGS" who stole his money?

    Sucks that he got scammed but the guy certainly benefits from a spokesperson like 93cobra.

    #10 7 months ago

    Thanks for sharing info to us about this scammer.

    #11 7 months ago

    Curious if you don't mind sharing - what was the total "deal" price of RBION, RCT and Juke Box?

    I had actually asked Kyle (in December I think) about a price for RCT and he wouldn't quote me. Just said he had too much in it so he wanted a lot out of it.

    #12 7 months ago

    That sucks! I've bought things from Danny Dippolito in CO before and everything went well - sounds like he is going to get the short end of the stick.

    #13 7 months ago

    I should have known everyone would be very concerned about the "deal" lol. So here's the quick and short of it. Kyle hit Jason (DreamTR) up about a week ago. Said he really wanted to move and start fresh, yada yada. Needed money to move and only had a couple of games left and was getting out anyway. Told us he's sell them cheap cheap so that we could still afford to ship them, fix what needed to be done and make a buck. So he offered up the two pins and a slot (which was actually a repo of an older mills machine - but nice). So Jason passed on it, and I said hit me up with what you are looking for. So then he PM'd me and he said, give me $3k for the 3 machines. I then haggled with him for a bit, offering 2400, then he 2650, then I at 2500. ---- Not that any of this as anything to do with the fact we were scammed, but there ya go. Yes, it was a fantastic deal, one of them supposedly had issues etc. He played it like he knew we could buy stuff and get him money quick, again we had both bought from him before, in fact the last time was a truckload of games, which he delivered to us in Nashville.
    So then he sent me an email to pay the money to, which was Daniel's, I didn't know this till I paid and saw Daniel's name which I recognized from around the hobby. Asked Kyle, he said, "yeah he's taking in the money for me" or something like that. Then he talked him into sending it to him through Walmart. When I figured out Monday morning after talking with his mom that I had been scammed I got my bank and PayPal working to get my money back - which I really didn't know if that would even happen. I really believe the right lady answered the phone at PayPal on Monday. SHe's even called me twice since then to check on things.

    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Is Dan the guy carpetbombing Facebook pinball for sale groups....

    So this was Daniel, but at the time he was writing this he was thinking I was in on the scam and in his eyes I had taken his money. He just didn't know what had happened and was rightfully upset. He and I are on the same page now, but I'm afraid he's not going to see his money back. Which I really do hate for him.

    Hope that helps clear a couple of questions out there. Sorry I've been dealing with plating stuff all day. In the midst of the crazy happenings of Monday our modem went down and it took 3 trips to get a good one for some dumb reason. Then getting my printer on with the new setup etc, I've been behind and while trying to get a ton of orders out and a bunch coming in too.

    Hope this post keeps others from getting scammed, but if nothing else it's a reminder that it can happen to anyone of us anytime. I've been doing this for years, and I buy TONS of games a year. Last time I got scammed was by RAM Controls probably 8-10 years ago (arcade parts guy/place). So I do feel fortunate it docent's happen often and it makes me all the more grateful for all the GOOD transaction I have all the time with so many good folks in the hobby.

    Alright, back to playing with bubble wrap and parts. You know how those pinball guys get...
    Chris

    #14 7 months ago

    That makes more sense. I saw Dan blowing you up on Facebook and was like, "No way Chris is in on this mess."

    Semi-literate? You're kind, Levi.

    #15 7 months ago

    This guy has been selling Multicades here in the north metro Atl. area for quite some time. I guess he just decided to go out with a bang(scam). If I see him, I will get a couple of hundred in fingers, for you!

    #16 7 months ago
    Quoted from emkay:

    That makes more sense. I saw Dan blowing you up on Facebook and was like, "No way Chris is in on this mess."
    Semi-literate? You're kind, Levi.

    Well I appreciate you saying that. I believe everything happens for a reason. It could have been worse. I hope Daniel is able to prosecute him but I'm not sure he wants to fool with it. I did tell him I'd share all the messaging between he/myself and, he/Jason/myself. It's all spelled out there in those.

    #17 7 months ago

    I agree. I recognize Chris' name. I think I bought Star Trek Pro from him over email and PayPal. Stand up guy.

    #18 7 months ago

    I'm surprised PayPal would return funds. Was money sent friends and family or as regular business transaction?

    #19 7 months ago

    Kyle Fuller is a known scammer. He's done this before and will again unless you get the authorities involved.

    https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=352155

    #20 7 months ago
    Quoted from hailrazer:

    Kyle Fuller is a known scammer. He's done this before and will again unless you get the authorities involved.
    https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=352155

    Wow.

    #21 7 months ago
    Quoted from sc93cobra:

    I'm afraid he's not going to see his money back. Which I really do hate for him.

    You and Daniel were both involved with a scammer named Kyle, which is very unfortunate.

    But you were able to retrieve 100% of your cash back at Daniel's expense, not Kyle's.

    If you really do hate that for him, you could always split the loss.

    #22 7 months ago
    Quoted from RTS:

    You and Daniel were both involved with a scammer named Kyle, which is very unfortunate.
    But you were able to retrieve 100% of your cash back at Daniel's expense, not Kyle's.
    If you really do hate that for him, you could always split the loss.

    I get what you are saying, but he asked me to send money in a similar way and I said no. I wouldn't make the mistake that Daniel did of sending it that way. I would never send money through something like that. I feel bad for Daniel, I really do, but I can't pay the price of him making a mistake I would not make. Daniel should never have been involved in this in my opinion. It should have been a red light that he wanted him to receive money from someone else (me), then turn around and pay it in a different way. When I was paying Kyle I thought I was sending Kyle the money - I didn't know it was a third party. When I mentioned to Kyle that I needed to make sure I had the money in my account, Kyle said I could just send it through Walmart, I said no, I'll do PayPal, I just need a day or so to get it straight. That was for my protection. I can feel sorry for someone, but it doesn't mean I take on the repercussion of paying for the mistake someone else made. I deal with people everyday in my full-time work as a pastor who have gotten themselves into a jam for bad decisions. I feel bad for them, I really do, and I do what I can to help them, sometimes doing much more than what the rest of the world will - many times giving them a chance to do something the rest of the world won't. I've learned the hard way over the years that I can't fix everything for everyone and people have to learn from their mistakes or they will never get better. This is apples and oranges but I think you can see what I'm talking about. I learned this lesson 10 years ago when I got scammed by another guy. I have offered to Daniel to make all of my messages available (he has most of them already) and I'd even give testimony if he wants to prosecute the guy, I'm all for it.

    5 months later
    #23 47 days ago

    I had the unfortunate pleasure to deal with Kyle Fuller myself. At this point he was working under the name Fullhouse Arcades. I had him turn an old Pac Man machine into a multicade which he did and things were well. I then thought he and I were friends ad he seemed like a very trustworthy guy. Around this same time sc93cobra was getting scammed I was too. I had a Lethal Weapon 3 pinball machine and was about to sell it to a guy in McDonough Ga who owns a rec type warehouse for $1600.00, but when Kyle Fuller found out he said " Man please don't sell to my competition. I'll buy it." I then decided to sell it to him. He paid me partially on Paypal and then the next day paid me the rest in cash. I thought all was well in the world and I told him I'd really like the chance to but it back once I got out of the financial jam I was in. He assured me he would hold it for me and I even said hey business is business and if he needed to sell it go ahead. About 1 month after he bought my LW3 he textex me at around 2:30 am and asked if I could send him some money via paypal and he would knock it off of the machine. He said he was at the casino and didn't want to stop playing just yet. I told him to give me a minute to see if I could and before I could check my paypal he messages me and says " I sent you $600.00 . Send it back to me through friends and family." I then asked him how that works and he said he was using his company credit card and getting an advance on it and that his debut card would only allow a $400.0p a day limit. I sent him the money back and all was well. He then 2 hours later asked if we could do this again and we did it for another $600.00. Over the next week we did this totaling nearly $4600.00 and paypal hadn'tv flagged the transactions. I figured if it was a scam paypal would catch it and stop it before this money could be sent seeing it was being sent from his business Fullhouse Arcades. Anyway skip ahead about a week and a half and I'm purchasing my kids a swingsetvon Ebay. When I went to buy it I then realized I was robbed. I knew I had at least $2900.00 in paypal, but when I logged on I was nearly $3200.00 negative. Turns out his mother had an American Express card and had him one issued for his business. However, once she saw the transactions on her statements along with over $40,000 worth of others where he had scammed other people she filed a charge back. I was able to get in touch with Kyle's sister, brother and parents who were very very nice and they had informed me that Kyle had been in prison some time back and they thought he had gotten his life in track. Now his mother at first was reluctant to call American Express and tell them what her son had done, because that wouldn't gotten him arrested so for nearly 2 weeks I was late with all of my bills and had nearly $1200.00 in bounce and late fees, because my bank account was attached to my paypal and they emptied it out too. Luckily I talked to the right person at paypal and got all of my money except for $500.00 of it back which was the money He sent originally for the pinball machine. His brother also gave me back my LW3 pinball machine. Now when I found out my accounts were in the negative I called Kyle immediately and he didn't answer. I texted him with no response. I truly at this point thought it was an honest mistake, because he is very cunning and you'd never believe by meeting and hanging with him that he would be like that. Finally after paypal gave me back most of my money I got a text from Kyle telking me I owed him for that pinball machine and he was going to have me locked up! LMAO!!!! I told him he could go to hell and I also could've had him arrested, but because his family were so nice and I got my most of my money back I decided not to. Then he texted my wife calling her a whore and my kids retarded at which point we went to a detective and he issued a restraining order against him. After talking with his family I found out he had relapsed and been on a coke binge stealing from everyone racking up over $40,000 worth of debt on his poor mom. I haven't seen him since, but I heard he found out he has a rare heart disease and the Dr have him 5 months to live unless he got a heart transplant and that was on super bowl Sunday so who knows if that was a lie to make people pity him and not have him arrested. Either way I'd advise everyone reading this to never ever ever ever ever deal with this shady guy ever no matter the circumstance!!!!!!

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    #24 47 days ago

    God invented paragraphs for a reason.

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    #25 47 days ago
    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    About 1 month after he bought my LW3 he textex me at around 2:30 am and asked if I could send him some money via paypal and he would knock it off of the machine. He said he was at the casino and didn't want to stop playing just yet.
    I told him to give me a minute to see if I could

    Okay lemme stop you there ... a guy you met once or twice texts you at 2:30am asking you to paypal him cash because he ran out of money at the casino but doesn't want to quit gambling yet ...... and you're like "hmmm, lemme check if i have the funds."

    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    I told him to give me a minute to see if I could and before I could check my paypal he messages me and says " I sent you $600.00 . Send it back to me through friends and family." I then asked him how that works and he said he was using his company credit card and getting an advance on it and that his debut card would only allow a $400.0p a day limit. I sent him the money back and all was well. He then 2 hours later asked if we could do this again and we did it for another $600.00. Over the next week we did this totaling nearly $4600.00

    Dude! How could you possibly not think this was shady as hell?

    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    and paypal hadn'tv flagged the transactions. I figured if it was a scam paypal would catch it and stop it before this money could be sent seeing it was being sent from his business Fullhouse Arcades. Anyway skip ahead about a week and a half and I'm purchasing my kids a swingsetvon Ebay. When I went to buy it I then realized I was robbed. I knew I had at least $2900.00 in paypal, but when I logged on I was nearly $3200.00 negative.

    Ugh, it sucks that your children and family were affected by this drug-addict gambling-addict dirtbag and I'm glad you pretty much got all your money back, and i'm not normally one to blame the victim, but you gotta be smarter than that. Live and learn I suppose.

    Anyway, thanks for spreading the word about a scammer. That's a positive contribution to the community.

    #26 47 days ago
    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    About 1 month after he bought my LW3 he textex me at around 2:30 am and asked if I could send him some money via paypal and he would knock it off of the machine. He said he was at the casino and didn't want to stop playing just yet. I told him to give me a minute to see if I could and before I could check my paypal he messages me and says " I sent you $600.00 . Send it back to me through friends and family." I then asked him how that works and he said he was using his company credit card and getting an advance on it and that his debut card would only allow a $400.0p a day limit. I sent him the money back and all was well. He then 2 hours later asked if we could do this again and we did it for another $600.00. Over the next week we did this totaling nearly $4600.00 and paypal hadn'tv flagged the transactions. I figured if it was a scam paypal would catch it and stop it before this money could be sent seeing it was being sent from his business Fullhouse Arcades.

    Uh, big, giant red flag right there. Honestly, what made you think that this was ok to do once, let alone a half dozen times?

    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    I truly at this point thought it was an honest mistake, because he is very cunning and you'd never believe by meeting and hanging with him that he would be like that.

    That's what con men do. They gain your trust in some way, and exploit that.

    Quoted from pezpunk:

    i'm not normally one to blame the victim, but you gotta be smarter than that.

    Indeed. He saw an easy mark, and you got taken advantage of big time. You're not a bank...don't loan people money, especially to someone who says he's out gambling.

    You can't think "we're buddies, he would never do xyz to me". Well, people can do that, as you've found out. If at any point that you have a small nagging thought "is this a scam?", then it probably is. Not enough people listen to that gut reaction and allow their emotions to override that or try to justify it in some way in their mind.

    #27 47 days ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    God invented paragraphs for a reason.

    See, I 100% agree with you!

    #28 47 days ago
    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    I haven't seen him since, but I heard he found out he has a rare heart disease and the Dr have him 5 months to live unless he got a heart transplant and that was on super bowl Sunday so who knows if that was a lie to make people pity him and not have him arrested

    Um, 100% lie might be the answer.

    #29 47 days ago

    Way, way, way too hokey of a story! You sold him a $1600.00 pin originally because of $ problems, yet within a month YOU are in a position to be transferring around $4600? I know of this guy Kyle, as he has been around Atlanta for a while, but your entire story is just as janky as Kyle himself.

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    #30 47 days ago

    I bought a pin from a Dealer in MASS.He had a TAFG I had been wanting for a long time!Here's what you do!In good faith,he asked for a deposit,as i told him I wanted the pin,but had to wait 2 months for the money.This was the truth.So,I sent him the deposit he asked for by Western Union! Now,I have his photo when he went to get his cash.and, He also had to show his I;D as well! Insurance! He was happy,and I got the pin I wanted !Please be careful Pinheads,the seasoned scammers are looking for you!!!

    #31 47 days ago
    Quoted from elcolonel:

    yet within a month YOU are in a position to be transferring around $4600?

    I don't think you quite read the story well enough.

    #32 47 days ago

    You are correct, I had to read the drama again. None the less, anybody willing to even entertain the first solicitation at 2:30 AM is open for fleecing!

    #33 47 days ago
    Quoted from elcolonel:

    None the less, anybody willing to even entertain the first solicitation at 2:30 AM is open for fleecing!

    Haha, I do agree there. Especially after the guy said it was to continue gambling. *click* hang up the phone.....

    This guy Kyle can't even figure out how to launder money off a credit card without someone else being involved.

    #34 46 days ago

    I just got this message from PayPal ---- "Bernie Madoff has sent you $20,000,000.00". Should I open it? JK. Sounds like this guy Kyle has quite an extensive, dubious and problematic history.

    Thanks for sharing, and do be wary of scammers (and run on sentences, and paragraph usage...or lack thereof).

    #35 46 days ago
    Quoted from Mrtattooz:

    I truly at this point thought it was an honest mistake, because he is very cunning and you'd never believe by meeting and hanging with him that he would be like that.

    The "con" in "con man" is literally "confidence." 90% of the scam is getting your trust. At that point, human nature kicks in, and we tend to not want to believe that our "friend" could be doing this.

    Edit: For future reference, the anatomy of a con game
    In Confessions of a Confidence Man, Edward H. Smith lists the "six definite steps or stages of growth" of a confidence game. He notes that some steps may be omitted.

    Foundation Work
    Preparations are made in advance of the game, including the hiring of any assistants required.
    Approach
    The victim is contacted.
    Build-up
    The victim is given an opportunity to profit from a scheme. The victim's greed is encouraged, such that their rational judgment of the situation might be impaired.
    Pay-off or Convincer
    The victim receives a small payout as a demonstration of the scheme's effectiveness. This may be a real amount of money, or faked in some way. In a gambling con, the victim is allowed to win several small bets. In a stock market con, the victim is given fake dividends.
    The Hurrah
    A sudden crisis or change of events forces the victim to act immediately. This is the point at which the con succeeds or fails.
    The In-and-In
    A conspirator (in on the con, but assumes the role of an interested bystander) puts an amount of money into the same scheme as the victim, to add an appearance of legitimacy to the scheme. This can reassure the victim, and give the con man greater control when the deal has been completed.
    -- from the wiki page(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick)
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    The midnight call was "The Hurrah," in your case.

    #36 46 days ago

    Call me at 2:30 in the morning and I will make the Dying Fetus vocals sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

    #37 46 days ago

    Do not take paypal for ANYTHING unless you want to run the risk of a charge back. There are a dozen reasons why you should never do this.

    I would ONLY take paypal under one circumstance. For a small deposit (say $100) to hold a machine and when that person picked the machine I would refund their $100 paypal deposit, and he would repay it in cash with the balance.

    With if a paypal user pays via paypal and uses a credit card as his funding source, he has up to 1 year to do a charge back. And can do a charge back for pretty much any damn reason he wants. I had this occur to me to the tune of $27,000. It took me a year to recover $22k of that amount.

    NEVER take paypal.

    #38 46 days ago
    Quoted from wantdataeast:

    NEVER take paypal.

    have used it to buy and sell with other well known pinsiders and it was easy and flawless. Also used it for transaction via pinballowners for a "known" individual. No issues (other than paypal's fees!!!) So, I wouldn't say "NEVER".

    #39 46 days ago

    I agree Wickerman, I use it with Pinsiders quite a bit. But I don't guess either one of us was screwed outta 27k. Cause if I had been, I would 1000% always say NEVER.
    Sorry to hear that KY. Hope you sicced some Sons of Silence on that pos.

    #40 46 days ago
    Quoted from T7:

    It looks like it was $2500 for RBION, Tycoon and a slot machine...

    Maybe he won RBION and Tycoon by putting $2,500 into the slot machine?

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