Is ChrisGamer his PinSide name? If so I can’t seem to even find him here

wait, are you suggesting that it's risky to send my hard earned money to someone i've never met, for something i've never seen?

Can you link to his account profile? I'm not finding one.

Can we get more specifics?

The ChrisGamer account was frozen back in mid-october due to scammy behavior.

But you SHOULD get your money back.

Sorry Op. Paypal sucks, but you should get your money back.

I'm noticing a whole lot of people getting scammed lately. Has there been a rise in people getting ripped off, or am I just noticing it right now? I've done a fair number of purchases with Pinsiders and have always received what I purchased. I'm feeling a little hesitant now.

There has been a rise in scammers lately.

Just be careful, do your homework, and use some common sense.

It's unlikely that a pinsider with a solid posting history on the forums would be a scammer. Normally it's users with no posting history, along with other red flags.

Check the deadline for chargebacks on your CC -- just make sure you don't miss out while waiting for Paypal to make things right. Also, if you've got any money in your PayPal account or if it's linked to your checking/savings account, be aware that they could try to withdraw from those to cover a CC chargeback.

I've been burned once (< $100.00) on counterfeit items that were sold to me and advertised as original. Paypal refused to reimburse me as the seller shipped and I received the item. I offered to send the item back to the guy and then even to paypal so they could see it. Didn't matter. This was probably 8 or 9 years ago and since then I try to avoid using them for anything unless there is no other realistic way to complete a transaction.

As I post in almost all PayPal threads, the PayPal terms and conditions (T&Cs) are your best friend. The PayPal terms and conditions (T&Cs) require all claims to be settled via arbitration. Arbitration is VERY expensive (almost $1,000) and the PayPal T&Cs indicates PayPal will pay the arbitration fees (if requested). ANYTIME you have ANY issue with PayPal, send them a letter stating you want to arbitrate the dispute and make sure you mention that you want them to pay the arbitration fees. My numerous experiences is that they will fold like a cheap suit. They will instantly reimburse you for any amount that is less than the arbitration filing fees. Read the Terms and Conditions!!!!!

Wow, I had never heard that, I’m off to read PayPal terms and conditions for future knowledge

I've heard about someone doing the same to eBay in another thread.

I love when you beat these companies with their own bureaucratic red tape.

That's kind of awesome. I thought companies usually use arbitration clauses in to keep themselves out of small claims court and force you to come fight on their turf at your expense, meaning you'd never bring a small claim. But if they pay your costs it totally changes their incentives. I almost wonder if that varies based on state law or if it's the same deal nation-wide.

I never get responses like this to threads like these who are victims and they are just trying to help others.

So you're so smart - is that your point? Well who cares. A thanks goes a longer way.

OP regardless of the circumstances I appreciate any help someone is willing to give when it comes to these lowlife mfs.

I would certainly file a charge back with Visa and not wait for PayPal. Those of us who used PayPal with funds on account to pay for the Predator scam lost our money. Some who funded their PayPal purchase with credit cards and filed for charge backs were successful.

i prefer shrewd, but yes. and anyone in this world who is spending 4-5 figures on toys, should be too.

I hear you. I've been helped a tremendous amount when I first started and trying to do the same for others. Thanks for the heads up