ebay.com link: Williams Safe Cracker Pinball Lot Of 100 NOS MAGIC TOKENS WITH 2 SILVER
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ebay.com link: Williams Safe Cracker Pinball Lot Of 100 NOS MAGIC TOKENS WITH 2 SILVER
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Quoted from amxfc3s:Are the silver ones rare?
I might add I don't know the percentage, but they are real silver.
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Quoted from amxfc3s:Are the silver ones rare?
When the game shipped, it came with a box of 300 tokens. And supposed to be around 6 silver ones included to try and entice players to keep playing and trying to win the silver ones.
Early boxes of 300 when you bought them separately should have some too.
I had the first one from my distributor for test. I opened the factory sealed carton and plastic sleeves of tokens myself, to install in the machine. I didn't have any silver ones included in my set. Williams inquired how my players reacted to the silver ones. I told them there weren't any with my game. I was told there were. I mentioned that I collected coins most of my life and know the difference between brass and silver, and the tubes in the game where they were in are clear lexan, so you could see that all of mine were brass.
I never heard any more about them. No idea if someone at the factory was removing them or what.
So no way of knowing how many are really out there and could be rare like the prototype bronze tokens.
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Quoted from pinghetto:I remember when we bought Dahlco years and years ago. They literally had burlap money bags FULL of Safe Cracker tokens. Every single one of them went in the dumpster when we cleaned out the warehouse. We had no clue back then... It was just something we didn't have to move to Bloomington.
There was a time before they were remade that you could get $2 or $3 apiece on Ebay. for the brass ones.
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Quoted from metallik:Y'all are telling me these things are real silver?
Yes. I don't know the quantity, I'm sure it's not a lot. They are worth something.
Quoted from metallik:I always considered them a PITA because they won't work in the coinslot when it's adjusted for the brass tokens.
There are two different sizes. One for America and a slightly different one for Europe. Otherwise they should work, brass or silver. Unless the different size is the issue.
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Quoted from metallik:Y'all are telling me these things are real silver?
I always considered them a PITA because they won't work in the coinslot when it's adjusted for the brass tokens.
Weird that yours are all the same design. They came in every design, 27 different ones I think.
I wonder if yours aren't original, but ones that someone made ? That would explain why they don't work in your magic token coin chute.
They should ring like a silver coin when dropped on a table, if silver.
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Quoted from pinghetto:I wonder if I have a EU mech in my SC. Both silver and brass coins work flawlessly. Never had either jam... I believe it's a Coin Controls brand mech.
Hard to say. You'd need the matching EU tokens or they wouldn't work.
Europe had a coin the same size so for export Williams had to change the size.
Same as normal mechs. You need the right coin or it won't work. It tests bounce, thickness, weight, magnetic properties in some mechs, etc. etc.
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Quoted from pinghetto:I've only see the silver ones with the same design as Metallik.
I've had others. Cop eating a donut comes to mind. Never paid much attention to them if they actually made a silver one for each of the various designs.
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Quoted from alexanr1:Real silver colored metal also known as nickel or zinc.
Williams advertised these as having real silver in them. Again I don't know the percentage.
They were trying to get the players to keep playing and collect them once they discovered them.
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I don't know if we'll ever know for sure what was going on.
Flyer said 10 designs, Bally made 20 and one silver. And at least one prototype. Searching it is also referred to as silver tone ? As in not silver.
And as I posted earlier that when Williams wanted to know how my players reacted to the silver token. Clearly one hand didn't know what the other was doing.
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Quoted from pinghetto:I still wish Safe Cracker would have been Monopoly like Lawlor was talking about.
The lackluster sales of Safecracker also ended Pat doing other pinball machines with a game in the backbox.
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Quoted from alexanr1:Is there a flyer that states that somewhere?
IPDB mentions it.
The Williams poster had more on it.
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Quoted from alexanr1:Is there a flyer that states that somewhere?
Flyer doesn't - https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=3782&picno=3969&zoom=1
Williams and my distributor claimed it. No idea if Replay or Playmeter ads had anything or not.
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Quoted from alexanr1:Not sure I would trust a distributor “saying it” they would have pocketed the tokens if they were silver IMO.
The box of 300 tokens was sealed and packed up inside the game. I uncrated my game myself, and there were no silver ones in my package.
Being you'd have to uncrate each game. I'm not sure how many distributors would go to all that work. Real silver or not.
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Quoted from PinballJeff:What a full set of international tokens worth now a days?
No idea. They and the domestic ones were remade at least once.
Maybe completed auctions of any sold on Ebay would provide a clue ?
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