(Topic ID: 130142)
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When they look like that, that's when you find out the operator's contact info and offer to buy it. They're obviously unable to keep up with maintenance and may be willing to drop a machine or two from their route. And man, Stern machines really do clean up well.
Quoted from Bowlingpin:another sad machine...
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Theres almost zero GI left in that thing!
Quoted from Pimp77:Theres almost zero GI left in that thing!
That's not a problem--it's a feature! 
How does all... that... accumulate? Is it fine fragments off of all the black rubber? Or was the location a coalmine?
I'd say its a combination of neglect, degrading black rubber, and solenoid dust. I've seen it a lot on routed games with black rubber installed.
Quoted from rollitover:How does all... that... accumulate? Is it fine fragments off of all the black rubber? Or was the location a coalmine?
Quoted from shock_me:I've seen it a lot on routed games with black rubber installed.
I've seen a lot of new games with black rubber installed. If fact almost every game from the last 25 years. It is what they came with and what belongs on them.
Quoted from o-din:I've seen a lot of new games with black rubber installed. If fact almost every game from the last 20 years. It is what they came with and what belongs on them.
Not questioning that odin, just stating what I think it is. I've bought plenty of heavily routed games from the before black rubber days, and never ever did I see black tar-like crap on the playfields.
Yeah, rubbers should be changed every once in a while. But at the same time coil dust can be as much responsible. How many people take apart all their solenoids and clean them out when they shop a machine?
Quoted from o-din:How many people take apart all their solenoids and clean them out when they shop a machine?
Yes to that here. But then again when I shop one out I usually change coil sleeves anyway. Pinball is a great hobby for us OCD guys 
Quoted from shock_me:Pinball is a great hobby for us OCD guys
When I started out I was putting white rubbers on games that came with black originally. But after a while I started going with whatever the game came with from the factory and I found it then played like it originally did. I save all the white rubbers for my EMs.
Quoted from o-din:When I started out I was putting white rubbers on games that came with black originally. But after a while I started going with whatever the game came with from the factory and I found it then played like it originally did. I save all the white rubbers for my EMs.
Same here. All my old Ballys and System 11 games have white, All Sterns have original black. To be fair to the black rubber, the operator here is pretty much a "hands off" guy who never services his games. If he did clean once in a while, the playfields would be fine. So I guess the main reason is neglect 
Theres a local place that has 10+ machines. Most are early 90s (T2 BF F-14 etc) they are kept in top shape clean and all have bright LEDs. They look new and the place just expanded.
Also went to one of the Beercades in Chicago. Same thing. ALL machines were LED bright and super clean. Place was jamming.
Quoted from o-din:Yeah, rubbers should be changed every once in a while. But at the same time coil dust can be as much responsible. How many people take apart all their solenoids and clean them out when they shop a machine?
If you arent doing that you arent shopping the game.
Quoted from o-din:Yeah, rubbers should be changed every once in a while. But at the same time coil dust can be as much responsible. How many people take apart all their solenoids and clean them out when they shop a machine?
I do I do
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