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Rush pro $6700 before tax & shipping?! WTF Stern?!

By d0n

6 months ago


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#101 6 months ago

no this is the welcome to page 3 post

#102 6 months ago

You've made jeffro's day. Someone commented on one of his long diatribe-y posts finally.

#103 6 months ago
Quoted from luch:

no this is the welcome to page 3 post

DAMN YOU!

#104 6 months ago
Quoted from Haymaker:

HAHAHAHA BTFO Levi. Everyone knows you're a location player simp with no access to your own games

The guy with the least number of pinball games has the biggest mouth on the pinball forum. Figures.

#105 6 months ago
Quoted from d0n:

The guy with the least number of pinball games has the biggest mouth on the pinball forum. Figures.

I own like 20 games, and of course have the space for it, mrs Don Hop…some people can make it in New York, some people can't, and pretend to be their wife on pinside! Figures.

#106 6 months ago

Stuff like this makes me really wish I had bought an Aerosmith Pro through the Marco "Show Pick Up" special years ago. I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan, but that was a really fun game and had a really great feel to it for a Pro. Same thing with Star Wars Pro. Sometimes Stern's Pros are better games than their more upscaled models.

That, and the fact that it would've been under $5k for the game and this many years later, I'd probably have beaten it and been tired of it now and could sell it at least a $2k profit. That's madness.

#107 6 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Funny how you are still stuck with that shitty NBA despite your pathetic "dead Kobe" sales pitch, while I had no trouble moving that $20K Monster Bash that you were crying about, Don.
L.O.L.

You sold a Monster Bash for $20k!
Damn. How much is that in shekels?

#108 6 months ago
Quoted from d0n:

Funny how the LE numbers keep going up too. Avengers LE - 500, Led Zepplin LE - 500, JP LE - 600. Mando LE - 750, Rush LE - 1000... it's like stern's thinking... how many of these LE's can we make and people will still consider them "limited" AND they will pay a huge premium for over the nearly identical premium? Right now the answer is 1000.
Anyone wanna guess 1250 on the next LE with the price being even higher than this rush? Stern's milking us guys.

Us? No. Only those buying into this hype or looking to cash in quick. I’ll just sit back and watch this show unfold thread by thread.

I NEED it mentality has its costs. I NEED IT NOW is even more pricey.

#109 5 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I own like 20 games, and of course have the space for it, mrs Don Hop…some people can make it in New York, some people can't, and pretend to be their wife on pinside! Figures.

You truly are dense.

I'm gay. Duh. A guy can have a husband.

Not just straight men own pinball games.

#110 5 months ago
Quoted from d0n:

You truly are dense.
I'm gay. Duh. A guy can have a husband.
Not just straight men own pinball games.

Levi is definitely the most homophobic guy on pinside. Got him again!

Quoted from d0n:

The guy with the least number of pinball games has the biggest mouth on the pinball forum. Figures.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm poor, but my modest collection of 12 games is certainly not the least number of games here.

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#111 5 months ago
Quoted from d0n:

You truly are dense.
I'm gay. Duh. A guy can have a husband. My husband WAS in Brooklyn visiting family for the holidays.
Not just straight men own pinball games.

Quoted from Haymaker:

Levi is definitely the most homophobic guy on pinside.

I don't doubt it.

#112 5 months ago

Based on recent trends, ridiculous NIB demand, continuing part shortages, and crunched production timelines.....it seems fairly obvious IMO what will happen in 2022 & beyond....

LE's have always been collectible, decked-out, and limited....and they all get built very early in a production run.

All that still holds true, but the buyer's main reason for purchasing an LE has now shifted to guaranteeing they get their game early, so that none of the manufacturing or production issues will apply. They want their new toy, they don't want to wait, and willing to pay Stern's rising MSRP to make that happen. Plus they still getting the best, decked-out version of the game.

IMO most buyers aren't going to care if Stern pushes LE runs to 1500 units or more. Oh I'm sure vocal minority here will complain that these LE's aren't really limited anymore, but they be drowned out by the sound of Stern's ringing cash registers. People will just be happy to purchase the larger number of LE's available.

So Stern will produce larger runs of LEs with each release. We've reached 1000 units with Rush. How about 1500? 2000? And they'll keep raising prices & still keep selling out instantly. Is there a limit? I mean the LE's have the highest profit margin for Stern. Why leave money on the table using those same limited custom parts to build premiums, when you can use them to make more LE's and increase your profits. Just one initial Premium run. And when you have the time, pump out a run of those lower BOM Pro's. Then move onto producing the next big seller in 3 months. Rinse & repeat.

The Premiums are eventually going to become the "limited" games, because Stern just won't have the time to set aside to build them. Just look at what's happening right now. Look at all the premium runs of old titles that keep getting pushed back further & further. They'll only have the build time if they release a dud, but that hasn't happened in a really long time.

Just my thoughts. 2022 seems pretty obvious to me (until this white hot market starts to slow), but what the hell do I know?

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#113 5 months ago
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#114 5 months ago
Quoted from d0n:

Not with pros and not with premiums

Deadpool, Iron Maiden, and Metallica (among many others) Premiums are either nearing the $10K mark or have passed it.

Pros, I have no idea how they'll perform long term, but Premiums tend to meet or exceed MSRP as time marches on.

#115 5 months ago
Quoted from 80sMan:

Stern easily could've sprung for the Geddy & Alex to sign the game at that cost.

After seeing how they've exploited Elvira, I'm sure we will see a Rush SuperMegaLEAnniversary++ edition where you get their signatures + a splinter from one of Neil Peart's drumsticks .

I don't mind Stern doing stuff like this right now with certain titles if I'm honest. I like to joke about it since I could never see myself paying $25K+ for a pin, but I can understand why Stern is doing it (I never saw myself paying over $5K for a pin, but that happened far too many times over the past several years ... and I am pretty damn sure my first $10K+ pin is going to happen very soon ).

Stern is currently in a situation where they can only make a number of pins equal to the part they have the least in their inventory. Prior to the global semiconductor shortage, you could usually find parts somewhere at some reasonable price if you were running short. That is not the case now. I'm 100% sure the CPU they're using is basically impossible to get at this time. I'm sure they buy the CPUs by the thousands to get significant volume discounts, but seeing that Mandalorian, Godzilla, and Rush have people drooling and throwing money their way, I'm pretty sure their stock is dwindling. The price increases + "exotic" pins like Elvira Anniversary Edition almost seems as if they're adding some cashflow to keep things status quo until all of this passes. If this shortage doesn't pass by next year, there could be problems, but that's a whole other discussion.

#116 5 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

LE's have always been collectible, decked-out, and limited

Except Star Wars. It might be collectible, but that LE was a premium for the most part. They made 750 of them ... that's a lot for an LE. It was not decked out at all unless getting the other translites compelled you to buy the LE. When all is said and done, I think most people will prefer the Comic Premium in that it will be rarer and people seem to prefer that artwork. Even the LE translite isn't exactly "limited".

#117 5 months ago
Quoted from megadeth2600:

Except Star Wars. It might be collectible, but that LE was a premium for the most part. They made 750 of them ... that's a lot for an LE. It was not decked out at all unless getting the other translites compelled you to buy the LE. When all is said and done, I think most people will prefer the Comic Premium in that it will be rarer and people seem to prefer that artwork. Even the LE translite isn't exactly "limited".

Seems like comic premium is already the most expensive/desirable

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