I thought he was asking where I bought my rush from, the video was from London I think

Yep, in Kiss and Aerosmith.

Surprising you don’t like Rush then. Maybe the next music pin will be to your liking.

Neil is the best drummer ever imo.

I figured that’s what you meant, but wanted to clear up any confusion. I ordered mine from Jordan as well. I helped a friend pick up a machine from Next Level Pinball last year and I was super impressed with the amount of time and effort they put into getting the machine setup and ready to leave the shop.

I am in on RUSH Premium. I never really listened to the band, I'm 36 and am just discovering them. I love their sound though. It feels like when I find a old show on Netflix and there are like 9 Seasons I get to bingewatch because I love it except this time it's with RUSH. Gameplay looked great as well. I was going for Venom but after the launch, I went for the RUSH.

listening to the stern insider panel interview and around the 33:40 mark, sexton mentions that there's a mode that unlocked revolving around 'the weapon'. that track is not a part of the 17 songs currently revealed making me think that we might get additional tracks with software updates.

I'd love to see stern beat out the 22 songs on JJP's guns 'n roses pin

Oh, ok. First I thought, damn that was a quick as delivery! Lol! I’ve bought and traded with Jordan before. Pretty good guy!

I think this is just theme integration for the action button, similar to how they used Roll The Bones for the bonus. There was a spot on the stream where "Weapon Ready" flashed on the screen.

Was about to say the same thing - I think this is related to playing a multi-ball song from an album you've collected, and you get spotted a "Weapon". Right now that weapon is an add-a-ball but sounds like more weapons might get added. Maybe something smart-bomb like (e.g. GZ button hold)

Some long-time fans' minds might be blown thinking about restarting the journey from "never really listened" to their current level of Rush fandom, except this time there's a Rush pin in the middle of it. LOL! I think you're in for a good time.

Bonus: Compared to many other bands you could discover, there's more Rush music for you to binge.

Lots to binge on just on the pin alone - so happy with the amount of music loaded!

But at least it's a new experience and not the 4th re-skin of the same layout! Borg phoned this one in. And I like Borg and his designs, stern, etc., this is not a bashing.

If there's anything I think GNR could improve upon, it's code...

Bands do greatest hits albums all the time.... Maybe this is a Borg greatest hits. . . and a RUSH greatest hits.

13 from him now, think I have a problem

Agree. A lot of Stern games these days have lost the theatrics and the sense of accomplishment of progressing though the game. Gotta love those old-school Williams multi-ball start sequences TAF and TZ.

All you drummers in this thread will appreciate this.

Holy crap! You got me beat by 11!

Damn! That was impressive and a nice walk thru history.

LOL - no, absolutely the case. I had the game at home for a month (shortest ever) and I put over 100M on it several times and I've honestly no idea how I did it. I think fortunately for me the game fell apart and I returned it to my dealer.

Thanks for posting my video dood!

Jack's game had much newer code than the one I played. That would have been shipped maybe a week earlier.

Yes this game was in London!

I've had a few days to think about the game - this will be a good Borg hit from my POV, a great layout (so what if we've seen only some of it before) the shots have a good mix, the code from Tim and Ray will be fantastic and the band have worked closely with Stern to make the assets available (whether you like them or not isn't Stern's issue!)

I think you missed the context. The conversation was based on this:

You stating appreciation for the game "makes no difference" in the home vs. on location GnR is ludicrous - so you must have misunderstood the conversation was about game play - it takes a lot of time, and effort to learn and there are many ways to play it ... you had it a month, and still you had no idea how you got 100m because you had spent no time learning the game. Imagine trying to do that on location? forget it.... Returning it for "falling apart" is a totally different conversation and maybe that is what you meant. I dunno.

I owned one for 2 Months. 2 Months because I waited for 1 Month for a part to come from Jersey Junk!
Sold it! Was not getting played! Reason why it was not getting played? I got my Led Zep in at the same time the part came in to fix GNR. Fixed it! Then I was choosing to play Led Zeppelin instead. To me, It was way more fun! The flow on that game is sick!

From what I remember of GNR.......
Lots of chopping wood!
I do NOT miss it!

Thanks for sharing! We had similar experiences but different games. I tried zep on location and kept going back to GnR. I liked it but To me GnR was way more fun. That's when I knew I had to own it because I kept wanting to go back and play it and soon realized there was no way I could dive deep into this pin on location at 2 bucks a game and just too noisy. No regrets and I'm barely scratched the surface of it.... now that my work day is over... about to go rock on it now, as a matter of fact. Enjoy your Zep! Great band.

When I used Pinball Browser on my KISS, I seem to recall callouts from some other titles that were in memory but not used in the game. My guess is that, during the development process, they start with assets from another game until the creative folks get a chance to complete the inventory of audio clips.

You can hear a "splice" on the bass track at 3:30
How interesting
Thanks for sharing
Always loved playing along to the whole Moving Pictures album

Is Deadflip streaming Rush Tuesday? Thought during stream he said he's going to soon

I was trying to think of where I've seen the Geddy face on the playfield before......that character almost is a doppelganger of Richard Ramirez, aka The Night Stalker. Serial killer in the 80's. I showed this to several people at work and they laughed and agreed. Google him with sunglasses.

Joel Stevenett did this 5 years earlier. Granted he doesn't play 175 songs, but he plays much more of each song and flows them together seamlessly.

No I know exactly the context dood. I’m no Keith Elwin but I spent plenty of time trying to learn the game. What I learned is when you get over the flashing lights and the cool music underneath is a bricky game that seems complex but isn’t - it’s basically a woodchoppers delight which is how most games are from that developer. It has a layout that because of the constant multiball gets very tedious. But I’m happy to given in to your long time experience and knowledge of pinball, clearly I am being ludicrous and I have no clue what I’m talking about

Agree with this. Listening isn't your strength, I get it. Listening to you isn't mine.

Rush interests me, but as a non-fan, I think a journey/narrative would make the game cohesive and compelling. Maybe this is already planned?

There are 6 planet modes? Do these link to the Cygnus wizard modes?

And do these link to 2112?

Just trying to figure out if the code is going to have a sense of progression, with a strong story line?

Guess it's probably too early to know.

'A black hole, known as Cygnus X-1 (an X-ray source believed to be an actual black hole), lies in the constellation Cygnus. An explorer aboard the spaceship Rocinante journeys toward the black hole, believing there may be something beyond it. As he moves closer, it becomes increasingly difficult to control the ship and he is eventually drawn in by the pull of gravity. The final words of Book I describe his ordeal: "Sound and fury drown my heart/Every nerve is torn apart."

The explorer re-enters the story midway through Book II. He has emerged into Olympus, where he witnesses the gods Apollo and Dionysus caught in the struggle between Mind and Heart. Prior to his arrival, the logical thinkers are led by Apollo and the emotional people are ruled by Dionysus. Apollo had shown the people how to build cities and explore the depths of science and knowledge, but Dionysus had lured many of them into the wild forests and provided love. However, his followers do not store any food for the winter and are caught unprepared. A conflict breaks out as the two different ways of life clash.

When he reflects on what he sees, he becomes tormented in the lack of balance of the people who insist on one extreme or the other. His silent scream is felt by the warriors and causes them to rethink their struggle and unite. The gods recognize the explorer as a nascent new god and name him Cygnus, the God of Balance.'

"2112" tells a story set in the city of Megadon in 2112,[21] "where individualism and creativity are outlawed with the population controlled by a cabal of malevolent Priests who reside in the Temples of Syrinx".[12] A galaxy-wide war resulted in the planets forcefully joining the Solar Federation (symbolized by the "Red Star"). By 2112, the world is controlled by the priests who take orders from giant banks of computers inside the temple.[21] Music is unknown in this world absent of creativity and individuality, but in "Discovery", a nameless man finds a beaten guitar inside a cave and rediscovers the lost art of music.[21][15] In "Presentation", the man takes the guitar to the priests at the temple, who say, "Yes, we know, it's nothing new; it's just a waste of time", and then proceed angrily to destroy it and banish him. Next, in "Oracle: The Dream", the man dreams of a new planet, established at the same time as the Solar Federation, where creative people live.[15] He awakens, depressed that music is part of such a civilization and that he can never be part of it, and kills himself, in "Soliloquy", originally titled "Soliloquy of the Soul".[12] Another planetary war begins in "Grand Finale",[20] originally named "Denouement",[12] resulting in the ambiguous spoken ending: "Attention all planets of the Solar Federation: We have assumed control". Peart described the ending as a "double surprise ... a real Hitchcock killer".[21]

Ordered a Pro - but one thing that concerns me is what appears to be the constant changing of songs with shots. I need to hear one song or most of one song all the way through, and not have a medley of 20 seconds of each song at a random pace. KISS and MET did this nicely. Hope this isn't an issue.

It's probably closer to Maiden, where you can pick a song, but if you enter a specific song mode or multi ball, then it's overridden. Once done w/the mode, it'll return to you to the song you picked.

Could not agree more with this. When watching the stream, this was even more obnoxious to me than that infernal scoop beeping.

Thats how i was thinking it would be

I think Stern is getting much better at listening to their audience and adjusting. I wouldn't be surprised if the code updates for this game are great improvements. I think this pin is going to be a silent hero. Non-RUSH fans are going to come running in about 6 months.

spot on but I think the team will add the usual polishing on that to make it blend better and have some call outs.

Agree! When I first heard the rumor of Rush, that was what I had imagined in my head. Not just a collection of song modes or collecting instruments like KISS or Aerosmith. I could careless about recreating the "concert experience" ala GNR. The golden opportunity of doing a pin based on a progressive rock band is the sci-fi, fantasy themes and deeper stories. The time travelling theme was a great idea but it should piece together a narrative or journey as you say. This is what worries me about tournament players designing rule sets for tournament players.

I have played a fair bit of LZ and the code seems really good and suits that game.

Way better than many people think as different ways to play it, with its unique playfield multiplier.

I was also hoping this game would incorporate some of the themes in Rush songs.....most of which I have heard for the first time recently!

I like what I see so far, but pulling all the separate elements into a cohesive theme would be awesome.

Presume the ultimate goal of the time machine is to get to 2112 and battle priests?!

I agree with many of your posts (and I've noticed this myself) that all the songs are available to play at the very beginning. There is no progression (like in GNR) to accomplish tasks in order to "earn" the privilege of hearing a song. I like the way in GNR that while you are grinding to earn a song, you hear GNR music in instrumental form. In this way, the sound design is much better in GNR. Additionally, the songs in Rush are interrupted by other songs as you progress, but I suppose this is better for game flow and keeping this interesting and chaotic. That said, excited for this title.

Non fan non read...where did you get that weed from?

If the game is good, could become a fan

Song stuff from Wikipedia.

Lol..cheers! Couldn't resist

Have a go a caress of steel..not exactly a chick magnet album ..but to be so young and write this brilliant album.

I hear you. I hope this isn't coded like Zeppelin. It's definitely not an "Epic Quest" but it seems better than Zep, but yeah there are similarities.

Songs and Modes
Select your song by using the left and right flipper buttons. Choose any of the sixteen songs: Headlong Fight, Far Cry, One Little Victory, Working Man, 2112, Tom Sawyer, The Spirit of Radio, Freewill, Cygnus X-1 (Book One: The Voyage and Book Two: Hemispheres), The Big Money, Subdivisions, Limelight, Fly By Night, La Villa Strangiato, Bastille Day, or Red Barchetta.

Song Planet Modes: Collect Records around the playfield to light the color-corresponding Song Mode. Shoot the Time Machine to start a Song Mode.

Six main timed modes:

Tom Sawyer
Working Man
The Spirit of Radio
The Big Money
La Villa Strangiato
Limelight

Main Multiballs

Time Machine Multiball
Shoot the Time Machine to charge it up. When the Time Machine is fully charged, travel back in time to Time Machine Multiball.
Three Time Machine Multiballs:
- Red Barchetta
- Subdivisions
- Fly By Night

Far Cry Multiball
Shoot the Lite Lock targets and shots to light the scoops for ball locks.
Lock balls in both scoops to start Far Cry Multiball.

Headlong Flight Multiball
Shoot the pop bumpers to progress the Drum Clock. When the Drum Clock reaches midnight, shoot the right orbit to start Headlong Flight Multiball.

Freewill Multiball
Shoot the Freewill Target behind the Drop Target bank to start Freewill Multiball.

1-2-3 Piece Combo
Shoot 1-2-3 to complete a 1-2-3 combo and light a Combo Jackpot on the Time Machine and a chance for a Combo Super Jackpot on the Side Ramp.

Bastille Day Hurry-Up Round
Complete R-U-S-H targets to starte the Bastille Day Hurry-Up feature. Shooting the Hemispheres Ramp builds the hurry-up values.

Instrument Drop Targets
Shoot the Instrument Drop Targets to collect instrument boosts.

Drum Solo
Shoot under the upper flipper when Drum Solo is lit to start a timed Drum Solo scoring round at the pop bumpers.

Roll the Bonus Mystery
Complete the Roll the Bones lanes to light the Roll the Bones Mystery award at the scoop.

Challenge Mods and Mini Wizard Modes
There are three Challenge Modes and Mini-Wizard Multiball Modes:
- Cygnus X-1: Book One: The Voyage
- Cygnus X-1: Book Two: Hemispheres
- 2112