The frame is 637mm x 181mm = 25.0787" x 7.126".

I send an email to the support staff at ponoko.com

hopefully, we're looking at a total cost of about $25-30 for the frames.

OK so trying to piece all this together... this is what i get.... am i missing anything?????

ALi-Express Dual-Color Boards- $57.94 (for two boards)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Indoor-F3-75-P4-75-RG-Dual-color-LED-dot-matrix-module-304-152mm-64-32/1721916462.html

Power supply- $17
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/High-qualityDC-5V-10A-LED-Power-Supply-For-WS2812B-WS2811-LPD8806-WS2801-LED-Strip-Light-UK/809780_2047451461.html

Run-DMD PCB- $135.42 (at todays exchange rates)
http://run-dmd.com/

Frame- ???? if interested in a bulk order.... $40 to 50

Grand total: would be around $260 US Minus the screws/spacers. I would bite on this if we could get it down to around $200 maybe we can license the design and print them here in the US (much cheaper than anywhere in europe).

Wow, WTF, that's huge. Those Alibaba boards are much bigger than I realized I guess.

I'm definitely sticking with my real DMD plan now.

OK.... took the .dxf file and uploaded to www.bigbluesaw.com got the following prices for the frame Front:
front quote.jpg

We could bring this price down by bulk ordering! But someone would need to take on the task of distributing them.

Thanks, this post has been hard to follow.

Is this just the front, or the front and back?

That was just the front. Ive been plaving around with their materials selection and have managed to get the price down. I guess if we did a bulk order, we should be able to get the price down to $40 + shipping for the acrylic (including $10 each for whoever wants to distrubute these things). I just need to look at the prices on the screws and spacers now......

I love the large size!

exactly! that's the whole point of mounting it to the wall, right? if you were to use a regular pinball dmd, you're not going to be able to enjoy the animations from more than 4 feet away.

You might be better off getting people to order together and then picking up at a show. Otherwise someone is going to a lot of work reshipping everything.

I'll be @ expo again this year, however that's months away

If there is a group buy for this I am in pending price.

^ ^
Me too - I'm in for a group buy.

10-20 kits: i could handle
20+ i dont have the funds or time to front this

Agreed, the expo would be the perfect place to have everyone pickup their stuff. I just dont know if im going. Anyone else interested in picking up the torch on this one?

I would definitely be down on a group buy.

first off, I never put down the torch you obviously don't know me very well.

Don't give him too much credit, he's just fascinated by the fire.

Im working directly with someone right now to get a more specific quote for the acrylic. I will let you know in the morning what i end up with.

Expo would not be a perfect place as I know I am not going. It should be an option but not a requirement.

This would look cool at my office at work.

btw, just an fyi for everyone. shipping for the displays and power supplies from HK is really quick.

I placed my orders for them last weekend and received the power supplies yesterday and the lcd panels are due to arrive today.

Sweet. How long you been waiting on the RUN-DMD PCB?

I ordered them at the same time this past weekend. I received my shipping confirmation from limpan on tuesday.

given how shipments from the eu and uk go, I don't expect to see the pc boards for at least another 2 weeks.

also, u.s. customs opened and inspected my power supplies.

I would always be late owning this...

in fear would miss a cool animation

very cool right there

When I ordered my Run DMD, I believe it was held in customs for about 6 days. It took longer for customs to inspect my package then it took for the delivery from Sweden to the U.S.A. I believe the package made it to the U.S. in three days.

OK, i was given a quote of $33.93 for BOTH front and back panels based off of the CAD drawings. Thats assuming we order 10+, the more we order the more this goes down. Obviously someone isnt going to handle all this for free, so lets say $50 for the set.... fair?

BTW does the thickness seem right?
Front:
Material: Gray transparent acrylic, Thickness: 0.125 inch. Size:
Piece (1): 25.079 x 7.146 inches.
Back:
Material: Acrylic, Opaque Black, Thickness: 0.118 inch. Size:
Piece (1): 25.079 x 7.146 inches.

Ill have to order a prototype or ensure everything is 100% and that runs about $80.

I'm still waiting to hear back from both ponoko and joe kase @ laseriffic for pricing and I was thinking the same thing. tinted gray for the front panel and solid black for the back panel

Limpan- do you know the specs on the standoffs/screws/spacers used for the frame?

http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=29457

The post gives me an overview and how many of each we need, but doesnt provide thread size and length of these. Im sure i can find these for cheap, i just need to know exactly what im looking for.

EDIT: Realized i was being an ass and possibly rail-roading someones business.

I think the standoffs shown on that page are thread x length (mm).

40mm = 1-5/8"
30mm = 1-1/8"
16mm = 5/8"
12mm = 1/2"
8mm = 5/16"

Threads would probably be 6-32 or 8-32 depending whether M3 or M4. Not sure what the standards are for hex spacers and lengths but you can probably find what you need here for lengths.

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=358

6-32 and 8-32 are SAE, while M3 and M4 are metric. If you're saying to use a 6-32 screw and 6-32 standoff in place of a M3 screw/standoff, that I'd agree with.

If you're buying a bunch of hardware, McMaster-Carr would probably have more stuff at better prices than Pinball Life.

Yep that's what I'm saying. Probably hundreds of retailers are going to have better prices that even MMC. Just citing an example of some different sizes that are available.

Prices are pretty cheap at Grainger and i can pick them up on the way home to save on shipping.

Here's the only caveat that I'm thinking you will run into using imperial standoffs, for this project, and the Alibaba displays. The displays already have the threaded metal studs in them that you screw the standoffs into first. I'm assuming these are probably metric as they are coming from HK. Granted, you probably could run the proper metric tap in the threaded end that attaches to the display and it might work. Just throwing that out there. Or just source the metric standoffs somewhere.

I found some pretty good alternatives to their parts on ebay. my list is at home. I'll post links tomorrow

While this product looks to be amazing, this thread seems to have focused more on the acrylic frames than anything else.

Regarding the Run-DMD PCB (i.e. the brains of it)... what does it take to actually get the clock and animations up-and-running? Is the clock embedded in the PCB chips or is it included on the SD card? I'm gathering that the animations are not included but can be (maybe) downloaded somewhere.

Anyone care to put together a concise post on how you'd go from unboxing, assembly, firmware flashing, animation loading, etc.?

Animations are hard-coded into the software it runs off of. (The OS). So would be the clock, I'm assuming. The SD card would hold the whole OS that the small card runs off of.

From what I understand -
You get the board, you download the SD card image, 'burn' the image onto the SD card, place SD card into board, plug diaplsy into board, then turn on board while holding a button down that puts it into 'setup' mode. In setup mode you select the type of screen/display, set the time. That's it.

The original statement in the opening post:

Is completely misleading, since there's only 'one' OS, and you cannot put your own animations into it.

Edit: Okay, I'm wrong, see below. The animations are still encoded onto the SD though, I tried opening the 'drive image' with no luck.

It's all pretty much on the run-dmd website. The firmware is on a chip that plugs into a socket on the board. The SD card is just the animations. Updated firmware is with a new chip. Buy the board and displays, attach the ribbon cables and 5V wiring. Plug in the adapter. The clock now works as a clock. Download the animations and the clock grabs the images off the SD card. Then you need a frame...

Ah okay, I stand corrected, the SD card is JUST the animations. (Still encoded and can't be changed, but at least it's not the whole OS..)

Bolt Depot has great prices as well

but if I'm not mistaken, bolt depot doesn't carry the stand offs

rather than [further] derail Limpan's thread, I've created a new one to display the bulk purchase options for the frames and hardware for those of us in north america.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/run-dmd-bulk-purchase-for-frames-north-america#post-2342729

Extremely impressive! I'd love to have one, but I'd probably have to buy everything in a kit with instructions to get it right. Putting something like this together from random bits and pieces is definitely not my strong suit. I'd almost certainly find a way to mess it up.

I received my displays from ali express last night. can't say that I've overly impressed with their packaging skills (or lack thereof). 5 of the 6 displays were crushed on one corned and the power cables are not long enough to be used to chain the 2 displays together.

I'm currently attempting to work out a replacement shipment with ali express.

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Ouch. I hope youre able to get it worked out. Please let us know, at least for peace of mind.

Got mine and they were packaged the same way but mine are fine.