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Ruling Question

By chiefbrody

6 years ago


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    #5 6 years ago
    Quoted from chiefbrody:

    Technically p4 could have been dq'd - he 'played' another players ball, but the ruling was to play on - no harm, no foul.
    Opinions?

    If it was for ifpa points, p4 is dqed.

    #7 6 years ago
    Quoted from Joe_Blasi:

    and maybe p3 if they walked away in a way that intentionally mislead lead p4 that p3 ball was over.

    Nope. P3 did nothing wrong. Never touch the machine unless you are 100% certain it’s your turn.

    I guess if P3 told you, the TD, he has been walking away from the game to try and trick people into playing out of turn, then something would need to be done about player three. But I can’t say I’ve ever seen that or heard of anyone doing that.

    #10 6 years ago
    Quoted from imharrow:

    I just want to be clear, if you are using the IFPA/PAPA unified rules, P4 is DQed. However, you can use a different ruleset and still be eligible for WPPRs. You could have a clause "if you come up to the machine and balls are in play and you can't tell who is up, try to cradle up." I don't recommend this, but it doesn't impact ifpa eligibility. IFPA/PAPA rules cannot be fully followed for example if you don't have keys.
    Another well vetted set of rules is the FSPA rules. I don't recommend writing your own from scratch.

    You’re absolutely right. At the end of the day you can do pretty much whatever you want as a TD. If you typically make rulings that go against these established rule sets, just be very transparent about that, and you’ll be fine.

    Quoted from joefox22:

    You cannot PLUNGE another players ball, playing it in the manor you described should not have any effect

    So if you’re mid ball and walk away from the game, I can step up and play the rest of your ball without an penalty to me? No way. I’d that were allowed there wouldn’t be a single person that would win a tournament on their own. It would be chaos!! Haha

    #14 6 years ago
    Quoted from pinlawyer:

    Practical effect of foul SHOULD carry the day. This is the sort of hypertechnical application of rules that drives me nuts. Player 4 reacted in a split second and had NO FKN TIME to assess the situation. In "normal" play, perhaps he would have simply been saving P3's ball and called P3 back to finish. The TD having correctly determined that the ball should be drained, any SANE application of rules would not penalize P4. No harm, no foul.

    The only rule I apply extremely strictly is the playing out of turn rule. If you never allow leeway, you’ll never get the “well you didn’t dq him, why are you dqing me” situations. Yeah it’s always a bummer to have to dq someone, but I feel it’s more important to rule the same way every time for this rule.

    Almost any other rule I have leeway since the consequences of most other rules are not as severe.

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