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ROUND 3 - Greatest Pinball Game of All-Time - Tournament Edition 2021

By AFM95

7 months ago


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    “ROUND 3 - Greatest Pinball Game of All-Time - Tournament Edition 2021”

    • (1) Guns n' Roses (JJP) VS 128 votes
      7%
    • (16) Star Trek (Stern) 113 votes
      6%
    • (2) Medieval Madness VS 176 votes
      9%
    • (15) The Addams Family 59 votes
      3%
    • (3) Monster Bash VS 91 votes
      5%
    • (14) Indiana Jones (Williams) 138 votes
      7%
    • (5) Attack From Mars VS 163 votes
      9%
    • (12) Deadpool 70 votes
      4%
    • (6) Elvira's House of Horrors VS 124 votes
      7%
    • (11) Avengers: Infinity Quest 93 votes
      5%
    • (7) Jurassic Park (Stern) 119 votes
      6%
    • (10) Lord of the Rings 115 votes
      6%
    • (8) Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast VS 90 votes
      5%
    • (9) Twilight Zone 151 votes
      8%
    • (13) Metallica VS 126 votes
      7%
    • (29) The Simpsons Pinball Party 108 votes
      6%

    (Multiple choice - 1864 votes by 276 Pinsiders)

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    #1 7 months ago

    Round 3 voting is now closed. You may vote in Round 4 here:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/round-4-greatest-pinball-game-of-all-time-tournament-edition-2021

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    #2 7 months ago

    Voted.

    IMDN vs TZ will be a tough one (not for me - TZ for the win - but for many others I guess).

    #3 7 months ago

    Wow, I had 5 underdog picks on this one.

    #4 7 months ago

    This is brutal. First you make me pick between whirlwind and maiden, which are next to each other in my basement. Now I need to pick between maiden and twilight zone, which sits on the other side of maiden.

    Twilight Zone all the way.

    #5 7 months ago

    Easiest round for me so far, except having to say goodbye to TAF, and shocked AIQ is currently behind.

    ( TZ dominant choice for me here as well)

    #6 7 months ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Wow, I had 5 underdog picks on this one.

    Ditto

    #7 7 months ago

    I was 50/50 in round 2. So I seen some good pin fall. Trying to improve my picks.
    Need to add VS after Jurassic Park (Stern).

    #8 7 months ago

    JP vs LotR? EHoH vs AIQ? This is where the brain starts to make little grinding noises....

    #9 7 months ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    JP vs LotR? EHoH vs AIQ? This is where the brain starts to make little grinding noises....

    possibly the 2 toughest ones for some. Didn't LOTR win Stern's version of this? I can't remember.

    #10 7 months ago

    Changing my Cinderella pick....good grief, TSPP could be just a giant killer this year!!! (to a point I suppose)

    #11 7 months ago

    TZ left. Maiden isn't

    #12 7 months ago

    Voted baby

    #13 7 months ago

    Why my favorites games have to fight one against the other?
    Lord vs alien
    Twd vs jp
    Lord vs jp
    Maybe jp vs medieval

    In fact my favorite games are all in the same quater table.

    #14 7 months ago

    Saturday morning bump. Voting ends on Monday evening.

    #15 7 months ago

    AFM and MM are looking very strong, as usual. Amazing games.

    #16 7 months ago

    Holy shit this is a tight bracket.

    #17 7 months ago

    So much love for TSPP. It's average at best.

    #18 7 months ago
    Quoted from LOTR_breath:

    So much love for TSPP. It's average at best.

    A great game, but looks like it's gonna fall.

    I'm surprised AIQ is falling. An amazing machine...I haven't played EHOH however, so stayed away from that one. Is the game really that good?

    JP slaying LOTR...that's as far as she goes however...imho

    #19 7 months ago
    Quoted from MK6PIN:

    A great game, but looks like it's gonna fall.
    I'm surprised AIQ is falling. An amazing machine...I haven't played EHOH however, so stayed away from that one. Is the game really that good?
    JP slaying LOTR...that's as far as she goes however...imho

    Ehoh should be a top spot contender. Full assets, tons of shots, great field, callouts are good.

    #20 7 months ago

    Agree. AIQ is a great design but EHOH is a more complete package at this point.

    #21 7 months ago
    Quoted from Hayfarmer:

    Ehoh should be a top spot contender. Full assets, tons of shots, great field, callouts are good.

    Quoted from Vino:

    Agree. AIQ is a great design but EHOH is a more complete package at this point.

    Sounds like I have to find one to play!!!

    #22 7 months ago

    Wow, I am late to this party.

    The fact that Iron Man lost to Lebowski in round 1 makes me question this whole process, the current crop has some "suspect" suspects still. I don't expect this to have a clear winner everybody would agree on, and I am sure all of the current list is fun (even the ones I have not yet played due to the pandemic) but is LoTR really a top 10 tournament game on any planet anybody lives on? A top 10 collection game? Maybe for some.

    Are tournament directors really jazzed up to have LoTR in their lineup?

    #23 7 months ago
    Quoted from BC_Gambit:

    Wow, I am late to this party.
    The fact that Iron Man lost to Lebowski in round 1 makes me question this whole process, the current crop has some "suspect" suspects still. I don't expect this to have a clear winner everybody would agree on, and I am sure all of the current list is fun (even the ones I have not yet played due to the pandemic) but is LoTR really a top 10 tournament game on any planet anybody lives on? A top 10 collection game? Maybe for some.
    Are tournament directors really jazzed up to have LoTR in their lineup?

    I agree! I think some of these votes on all 3 rounds are going same as top 100. Guys vote based on not the better game but which game fits there agenda. If you posted this same tournament in Williams, Stern, and JJP sub-forums the out come would show the agendas im referring to. This is fun but same as top 100 so take it with a grain of salt and just enjoy it.

    #24 7 months ago
    Quoted from Phbooms:

    I agree! I think some of these votes on all 3 rounds are going same as top 100. Guys vote based on not the better game but which game fits there agenda. If you posted this same tournament in Williams, Stern, and JJP sub-forums the out come would show the agendas im referring to. This is fun but same as top 100 so take it with a grain of salt and just enjoy it.

    Agreed. a "better" game is always going to be subjective in most cases anyway. I do believe, however, that even in these fun threads, top 100, IPDB, etc. there are clearly superior games that are there for a good reason.

    It's hard to be truly non agenda based and vote against MM, AFR, and TZ as 3 of the best games ever put out there. They always seem to rise to the top, and imho, deservedly so.

    Alot of the others could be considered "flavor of the month" but certainly not the ones I just mentioned.

    As a side - I personally couldn't stand LOTR....couldn't trade it fast enough, though I know it's revered by many, so what do I know (except what I like to play)?

    #25 7 months ago

    I always thought TSPP was so-so, because I was always playing beat-up ones in the wild at beach arcades, bits were sometimes broken, played spongy and slow. When I finally played a speedy well-tuned one and could get pretty deep into the code, it's a great game, really well designed for happy chaos moments.

    #26 7 months ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    I always thought TSPP was so-so, because I was always playing beat-up ones in the wild at beach arcades, bits were sometimes broken, played spongy and slow. When I finally played a speedy well-tuned one and could get pretty deep into the code, it's a great game, really well designed for happy chaos moments.

    Yes, but is it a GOOD tournament game? I think watching 4 highly skilled players on that game would be like watching paint dry... and if the game is set up wrong paint would be dry and I would be onto the second coat before their match is done. Is that a good tournament game? I would take a random EM over that if I HAD to as a tournament director (if the only two options were "loose" TSPP or an average EM).

    #27 7 months ago

    I think " tournament " in this application applies to game itself, not necessarily in a tournament play environment....could be wrong though...

    Just a head to head in multiple gameplay scenarios

    #28 7 months ago
    Quoted from MK6PIN:

    I think " tournament " in this application applies to game itself, not necessarily in a tournament play environment....could be wrong though...

    Ditto. Maybe we missed something in an earlier description?

    #29 7 months ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    Ditto. Maybe we missed something in an earlier description?

    Oh, I misunderstood the title (doh!). I wondered I had missed something in the directions. I thought this was the Top Tournament Games of all Time.

    If this is just "re-do the top 100, for the Xth time", I guess go at it. All in good fun. I just thought this was a different approach (e.g. top games for a smaller collection, top collector games, best bang for the buck games, best location games etc.).

    FWIW a game like Monster Bash would rate high on a "best location game" list for me. I love playing it a few times a year. Home use? Oh no...

    #30 6 months ago

    My problem with putting some of these new games on the list is that people are potentially voting on games that are so new (and during a pandemic) that they couldn't have put enough time on them to make an informed decision. There are a bunch of games here I haven't even played yet...doesn't seem right to vote based on videos.

    #31 6 months ago
    Quoted from BC_Gambit:

    Oh, I misunderstood the title (doh!). I wondered I had missed something in the directions. I thought this was the Top Tournament Games of all Time.
    If this is just "re-do the top 100, for the Xth time", I guess go at it. All in good fun. I just thought this was a different approach (e.g. top games for a smaller collection, top collector games, best bang for the buck games, best location games etc.).
    FWIW a game like Monster Bash would rate high on a "best location game" list for me. I love playing it a few times a year. Home use? Oh no...

    I think the appeal to this thread vs other " best of" comparisons is it truly weeds out the new games debuting at #1 or super high just for new curb appeal.

    I like, enjoy, many of the shineys, but hard to vote against absolutely dominant games ( I have those too).

    As much as I love Alien ( my personal favorite) I wouldn't vote for it in a thread like this against the other 3 titles mentioned prior. They have more than stood the test of time and still dominate.

    Just fun to watch the others shuffle in the early rounds ( working today so a great distraction)

    #32 6 months ago
    Quoted from MK6PIN:

    I think the appeal to this thread vs other " best of" comparisons is it truly weeds out the new games debuting at #1 or super high just for new curb appeal.
    I like, enjoy, many of the shineys, but hard to vote against absolutely dominant games ( I have those too).
    As much as I love Alien ( my personal favorite) I wouldn't vote for it in a thread like this against the other 3 titles mentioned prior. They have more than stood the test of time and still dominate.
    Just fun to watch the others shuffle in the early rounds ( working today so a great distraction)

    Agreed. And at the end, it looks like you'll just wind up with the B/W classics. That's not a bad thing.

    #33 6 months ago
    Quoted from MK6PIN:

    I think " tournament " in this application applies to game itself, not necessarily in a tournament play

    Correct. Tournament is referring to the 64 pins competing to be voted the best pin.

    #34 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    My problem with putting some of these new games on the list is that people are potentially voting on games that are so new (and during a pandemic) that they couldn't have put enough time on them to make an informed decision. There are a bunch of games here I haven't even played yet...doesn't seem right to vote based on videos.

    And I have the exact same issue. I haven’t had an opportunity to play the new Avengers game due to the pandemic. And I’d expect lots of people haven’t played it. And I still haven’t had real time of Elvira since the code updates. I’m glad I’ve seen videos, but it’s not the same.

    #35 6 months ago
    Quoted from MK6PIN:

    I think the appeal to this thread vs other " best of" comparisons is it truly weeds out the new games debuting at #1

    Agree!! Weed out the weak!

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    #36 6 months ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    I always thought TSPP was so-so, because I was always playing beat-up ones in the wild at beach arcades, bits were sometimes broken, played spongy and slow. When I finally played a speedy well-tuned one and could get pretty deep into the code, it's a great game, really well designed for happy chaos moments.

    EVERY TSPP I played in the wild had something wrong w it. There presence on college campuses in the Southeast was incredible back in the day. We did many, many Performing Arts Theaters back then....I couldn't wait for spare time to go to the commons area and play the pins.

    When finally buying a nice one and getting it playing perfectly I realized how good the game actually was...and still is...Keith at his best!!

    #37 6 months ago

    I'd love to see the King of Payne dethroned, but it's not happening anytime soon. Too much emphasis is placed on the LCD in modern games. In my opinion, pinball missed a step, from DMD to Colour DMD with higher pixels. Not DMD to LCD, it's like going from VHS to Blu-ray, and skipping DVD.

    I find it amusing that every JJP gameplay vid I see, the player hardly ever looks up at the screen. All those wonderful (and very expensive) animations for the entertainment of spectators only. Madness.

    #38 6 months ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    I'd love to see the King of Payne dethroned,

    Agreed, but only AFM, TZ and IJ would be capable of doing it.

    #39 6 months ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    I'd love to see the King of Payne dethroned, but it's not happening anytime soon. Too much emphasis is placed on the LCD in modern games. In my opinion, pinball missed a step, from DMD to Colour DMD with higher pixels. Not DMD to LCD, it's like going from VHS to Blu-ray, and skipping DVD.
    I find it amusing that every JJP gameplay vid I see, the player hardly ever looks up at the screen. All those wonderful (and very expensive) animations for the entertainment of spectators only. Madness.

    If only someone would put one in the playfield..

    #40 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    Agreed, but only AFM, TZ and IJ would be capable of doing it.

    He looks capable

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    #41 6 months ago
    Quoted from Vino:

    He looks capable
    [quoted image]

    I think he is and won last year as I recall. With an MMrRE in my lineup now next to it however, not this year for me.

    They absolutely nailed the royal version bringing just enough....devastating pin!!!

    #42 6 months ago

    A little over 24 more hours to vote, then we're down to 8 pins.

    #43 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    Agreed, but only AFM, TZ and IJ would be capable of doing it.

    After playing them all a bunch recently, gotta say.....IJ is now my fave. Wonder if it could go all the way...

    #44 6 months ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    After playing them all a bunch recently, gotta say.....IJ is now my fave. Wonder if it could go all the way...

    Well based on the brackets, either TZ or AFM have to fall, so IJ will have MM all to itself...

    Final 4 is THE battle!!!

    #45 6 months ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    After playing them all a bunch recently, gotta say.....IJ is now my fave. Wonder if it could go all the way...

    It's my all time favorite...so from your lips to God's ears. Between buying the game, having Mike Chestnut do the brass and nickel plating, then saying screw it and having HEP fully restore it with a new OEM playfield, I must've spent $17k on the damn thing. I regret nothing...it's still awesome and won't go anywhere. Add the Pinsound card and orchestrations, and it's perfect.

    #46 6 months ago

    This has become much tougher with this round.

    My toughest matchups to choose were JP vs. LOTR and AIQ vs. EHOH

    #47 6 months ago

    I think the rose-colored glasses have come off for AIQ. Shoots amazing and has dope artwork but everything else(voices, animations, etc)is lackluster.

    #48 6 months ago

    Is Lord of the Rings really going to lose to Jurassic Park? Don’t get me wrong, JP is a good game. But I consider LOTR to be one of the games in the upper crust of pinball. Not just in its time. And this vote is for “Greatest Pinball Game Of All-Time”. Jurassic Park doesn’t dominate its time like LOTR did.

    #49 6 months ago
    Quoted from DaveH:

    Is Lord of the Rings really going to lose to Jurassic Park? Don’t get me wrong, JP is a good game. But I consider LOTR to be one of the games in the upper crust of pinball. Not just in its time. And this vote is for “Greatest Pinball Game Of All-Time”. Jurassic Park doesn’t dominate its time like LOTR did.

    LOTR was ahead of his time.
    Has it caught up 15 years of evolution? Or is it nostalgia who is speaking?

    #50 6 months ago

    LOTR is a GREAT game. I owned it and sold it just because it started getting really stale. For me, what separates JP from LOTR is that stupid upper playfield on LOTR. Kills the whole flow of the game. And there's only so many times you can hear "The path!...of the dead!" before you want to claw your eyes out. But that ramp and magnet...EPIC.

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