Round 2 - Greatest Pinball Game of All-Time - Tournament Edition 2020

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/greatest-pinball-game-of-all-time-tournament-edition#post-5573218

Round 2 is closed for voting. You can vote for Round 3 here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/round-3-greatest-pinball-game-of-all-time-tournament-edition
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For those of you who missed Round 1, or are not familiar with the rules, please see this link:

If you didn't catch the statistics from Round 1, they are posted below (six of them), along with attachments for an easier read.

Last but not least, if you're interested in voting on the Consolation Bracket, it can be found here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/consolation-bracket-greatest-pinball-game-of-all-time-te

Any questions, feel free to post in the thread or PM me. Enjoy round 2 everyone!
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1. There were 361 Pinsider's who voted a total of 9,483 times. That's an average of 26.26 votes per Pinsider.

2. Medieval Madness put on the biggest beat down, with 90% of the vote versus Indianapolis 500. You can see how the rest of the winners/losers by percentage in one of my attachments.

3. Biggest upset - Fish Tales (ranked 52nd) over Elvira's House of Horrors (ranked (unlucky?) 13th). Fish Tales finished with 53% of the vote.

4. Other upsets - Iron Man (36th) over Cirqus Voltaire (29th), and The Shadow (34th) over The Hobbit (31st).

5. Records by Pinball Company (Winning Percentage):

1-0 1.000 Dutch Pinball
4-1 .800 Jersey Jack Pinball
14-10 .583 Stern
7-6 .538 Williams
6-7 .462 Bally
0-1 .000 American Pinball
0-1 .000 Heighway Pinball
0-2 .000 Capcom
0-2 .000 Data East
0-2 .000 Spooky Pinball

6. Records by Era (Winning Percentage):

2000-2009 3-1 .750
2010-2019 16-14 .533
1990-1999 13-16 .448
1980-1989 0-1 .000
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Round 2 Matchups (resized).JPGRound 1 Results (resized).JPGRecord by Company (resized).JPGRecord by Era (resized).JPGRound 2 Bracket 1 (resized).JPGRound 2 Bracket 2 (resized).JPG

Post last edited 3 years ago.

#2 4 years ago

RLM

Reaper802

Pinside member

Lexington Park, MD

7y 57,800 360 3 96

Losers bracket would also be fun...

#3 4 years ago

KER

Kerry_Richard

Pinside+ Frequent

Danville, CA

12y 83,900 3,024

I voted and struggled with:

IJ vs. WOZ = (IJ for the vote)
ToM vs. FT = (FT for the vote)

#4 4 years ago

MTN

mtn-

KristianiaFlipperselskap

7y 110K 1,932

Quoted from Reaper802:
Losers bracket would also be fun...

What he said!

#5 4 years ago

???

colonel_caverne

Pinside member

Biscarrosse

10y 80,800 3,262 3 72

Tough decision for some matchs. To decide, I thought which one I would have kept longer.

#6 4 years ago

AST

Astropin

Pinside+ Member

11y 125K 8,895

I try to just focus on "which one is more fun to play". So TOTAN VS STTNG was easy for me. TOTAN is a beautiful game...but STTNG is way more fun...easy vote.

I know IM will get killed this round...but again...easy vote for it from me.

#7 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from Reaper802:
Losers bracket would also be fun...

Quoted from mtn-:
What he said!

I can build out a consolation bracket if you'd like. It would be fun to see how the matchups play out.

With that said; because it takes a good chunk of time, I will keep it strictly to a consolation bracket and voting - no additional statistics. Give me a little time and I can publish a new thread.

#8 4 years ago

???

colonel_caverne

Pinside member

Biscarrosse

10y 80,800 3,262 3 72

Quoted from Astropin:
I try to just focus on "which one is more fun to play". So TOTAN VS STTNG was easy for me. TOTAN is a beautiful game...but STTNG is way more fun...easy vote.
I know IM will get killed this round...but again...easy vote for it from me.

I voted IM for lastability.
Met vs TWD is a die heart for me.

#9 4 years ago

MAB

mbeardsley

Pinside member

5y 68,800 2,387

Quoted from Kerry_Richard:
I voted and struggled with:
IJ vs. WOZ = (IJ for the vote)
ToM vs. FT = (FT for the vote)

I agree that ToM vs. FT was a very close call (I also voted for FT, but it was a tough choice).

OTOH, IJ vs. WOZ is a no-brainer. WOZ is a decent machine, but IJ is great.

#10 4 years ago

MWM

Hayfarmer

Pinside+ Frequent

5y 163K 15,834 5

Hard not to vote for your faves even if you like the other game. lookin for ss to pull off the upset this round

#11 4 years ago

???

freeplay3

Pinside+ Addict

Waterford Township, MI

7y 115K 1,631 6

Normally I would tell you not to waste time on a loser's bracket. In an era where everyone has an abundant amount of spare time to fill, go ahead. We all can use the extra entertainment.

#12 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from freeplay3:
Normally I would tell you not to waste time on a loser's bracket. In an era where everyone has an abundant amount of spare time to fill, go ahead. We all can use the extra entertainment.

I'm doing the consolation bracket for you guys, not me. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of spare time; however, I enjoy giving back to the community, especially to those who need to forget what's going on in the world at the moment.

#13 4 years ago

MTN

mtn-

KristianiaFlipperselskap

7y 110K 1,932

OP
Quoted from AFM95:
I can build out a consolation bracket if you'd like. It would be fun to see how the matchups play out.
With that said; because it takes a good chunk of time, I will keep it strictly to a consolation bracket and voting - no additional statistics. Give me a little time and I can publish a new thread.

Thank you! And also what freeplay3 said in post number 11 in this thread.

#14 4 years ago

BJL

SNES

Pinside+ Frequent

8y 90,300 1,218 7 1

What a great idea for a fun thread! Love the statistics!

#15 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Here you go...

Consolation Bracket - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/consolation-bracket-greatest-pinball-game-of-all-time-te#post-5578867

#16 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

About 100 Pinsiders have already voted. All favorites are winning except for Star Trek (Williams) over Tales of the Arabian Nights.

#17 4 years ago

BRG

IdahoRealtor

Pinside member

Eagle, ID

13y 137K 6,773 11 10

In what upsidedown land is DI better than Whirlwind? I'm out.

#18 4 years ago

DAD

MK6PIN

Pinside+ Pro!

Ugh...couple of tough ones for me:

Have to vote IM, TRON, and TWD as I just like them better (TRON could prove to be an upset, where I know MET will win).

Saving my MET vote for when it will be needed however.....

#19 4 years ago

DAD

MK6PIN

Pinside+ Pro!

Quoted from IdahoRealtor:
In what upsidedown land is DI better than Whirlwind? I'm out.

It's not....believe it will take undisputed great games with enough voters to eventually knock out some of the madness (why the top 100 is messed up anyway)

We all know where this is going, but still fun compared to what is happening around us right now....

#20 4 years ago

DAD

PtownPin

Pinside member

6y 97,400 7,406 67 1

Quoted from Kerry_Richard:
I voted and struggled with:
IJ vs. WOZ = (IJ for the vote)
ToM vs. FT = (FT for the vote)

Your one of the few that owns or has owned almost all these games...

#21 4 years ago

GWL

gliebig

Pinside+ Frequent

9y 119K 5,423

I voted for a lot of underdogs this round.

#22 4 years ago

???

colonel_caverne

Pinside member

Biscarrosse

10y 80,800 3,262 3 72

Oh nooo!
Need to wake up some walkers!

#23 4 years ago

GWL

gliebig

Pinside+ Frequent

9y 119K 5,423

Quoted from colonel_caverne:
Oh nooo!
Need to wake up some walkers!

That is a tough choice.

#24 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from gliebig:
I voted for a lot of underdogs this round.

I found myself voting for about 1/3 of the underdogs myself.

#25 4 years ago

MIC

RipleYYY

Pinside member

14y 87,050 4,355 2 33

some VS are very hard in this round... funny

#26 4 years ago

MTN

mtn-

KristianiaFlipperselskap

7y 110K 1,932

Underdogs here, underdogs there.

#27 4 years ago

guitarded

Pinside member

Unknown

5y 70,400 3,500 10

"Look Bob, Magicians!"

Come on FT!

#28 4 years ago

DCH

dc2010

Inactive member

Natalia, TX

12y 62,600 954 35

Quoted from guitarded:
"Look Bob, Magicians!"
Come on FT!

FT all the way to the sweet 16

#29 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

361 Pinsiders voted in Round 1. We already have half that number (180) that have voted in the first 6 1/2 hours for Round 2. Awesome.

#30 4 years ago

DAD

Yelobird

The Mod Couple

Wheaton, IL

20y 160K 10,056 44 37

OP
Quoted from AFM95:
361 Pinsiders voted in Round 1. We already have half that number (180) that have voted in the first 6 1/2 hours for Round 2. Awesome.

Not sure how fun this is for You but I do Sincerely appreciate you doing this! I think its fun especially under the circumstances and interesting to see what the players think. Thank You!

#31 4 years ago

???

freeplay3

Pinside+ Addict

Waterford Township, MI

7y 115K 1,631 6

OP
Quoted from AFM95:
361 Pinsiders voted in Round 1. We already have half that number (180) that have voted in the first 6 1/2 hours for Round 2. Awesome.

I think in the first round thread it was posted that this would be a TWIP topic today. If that happens expect a huge jump in voters tonight/tomorrow.

Also expect huge amounts of bitching from the Stern army about some of the games bumped in the first round that they didn't get to vote for.

#32 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from Yelobird:
Not sure how fun this is for You but I do Sincerely appreciate you doing this! I think its fun especially under the circumstances and interesting to see what the players think. Thank You!

I appreciate the kind words Yelobird. I'm the guy who typically runs tournament brackets or fantasy football with friends and coworkers. The manual spreadsheet building isn't my favorite, but I typically nerd out with statistics, hence the breakdown of records by pinball company/manufacturer and pinball eras.

Speaking of records by pinball company/manufacturer, I'm shocked no one has ripped or praised JPP/Stern yet.

#33 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from freeplay3:
I think in the first round thread it was posted that this would be a TWIP topic today. If that happens expect a huge jump in voters tonight/tomorrow.
Also expect huge amounts of bitching from the Stern army about some of the games bumped in the first round that they didn't get to vote for.

It was posted today.

I also see that Stern might have liked my idea enough to create their own bracket. Where are my royalties?
Stern Showdown (resized).JPG

#34 4 years ago

DAD

MK6PIN

Pinside+ Pro!

Quoted from freeplay3:
Also expect huge amounts of bitching from the Stern army about some of the games bumped in the first round that they didn't get to vote for.

As well as the JJP club, where 3 of the 4 titles stand a very good chance of being knocked out....

#35 4 years ago

DAD

MK6PIN

Pinside+ Pro!

OP
Quoted from AFM95:
Speaking of records by pinball company/manufacturer, I'm shocked no one has ripped or praised JPP/Stern yet.

Believe it just happened in the post just above yours (I had to respond)....reading/ commenting in between hospital craziness on my end, so quite grateful to type some fun stuff at the moment....

#36 4 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

Pinside+ Addict

Stern army Vs cult of JJP

OP
Quoted from AFM95:
I also see that Stern might have liked my idea enough to create their own bracket. Where are my royalties?
[quoted image]

I imagine they go directly to jar155?

#37 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from TheLaw:
Stern army Vs cult of JJP

I imagine they go directly to jar155?

I'm not familiar with jar155. Should I assume he's the biggest Stern fan ever?

#38 4 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

Pinside+ Addict

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/search?s=1&what=topics&q=march+madness&topic-machine=&pinsider=&age_days=&subforum=0&sort_by=date&sort_order=DESC#results

OP
Quoted from AFM95:
I'm not familiar with jar155. Should I assume he's the biggest Stern fan ever?

He's the one that ran the march Madness poll like this every year...although it seems Kwikimart may have actually invented it in 2012.
EDIT: I mean on Pinside...maybe RGP had one?

#39 4 years ago

DAD

PtownPin

Pinside member

6y 97,400 7,406 67 1

Quoted from MK6PIN:
As well as the JJP club, where 3 of the 4 titles stand a very good chance of being knocked out....

probably out of the sweet 16, but their lone game (which they don't even make anymore) will probably make it the final four, and could win the whole thing....having owned many of these machines its really hard to pick between a classic like MM, AFM, IJ and a modern pin....

#40 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from TheLaw:
He's the one that ran the march Madness poll like this every year...although it seems Kwikimart may have actually invented it in 2012.
EDIT: I mean on Pinside...maybe RGP had one?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/search?s=1&what=topics&q=march+madness&topic-machine=&pinsider=&age_days=&subforum=0&sort_by=date&sort_order=DESC#results

Ahhh... I had no idea anyone did this on Pinside. And jar155, I apologize for asking if you were the biggest Stern fan ever. I know that can be offensive to some.

#41 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Morning bump. Poll closes tomorrow night at 10pm EST/7pm PST.

#42 4 years ago

BMP

Palmer

Pinside member

5y 101K 2,503 4

Quoted from IdahoRealtor:
I'm out.

No one cares.

#43 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

3 of 16 matchups are still within 20 votes of each other. Dialed In is two votes behind Stern's Star Trek.

A little over 33 hours until voting closes.

#44 4 years ago

DAD

MK6PIN

Pinside+ Pro!

And a tragedy that AFM must take on it's own brother TAF this early. Heavyweights already sitting at 200+ votes, however, so I suspect the final winner still comes down to 2 pins....

#45 4 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

Pinside+ Addict

Quoted from MK6PIN:
And a tragedy that AFM must take on it's own brother TAF this early...

#46 4 years ago

DAD

PtownPin

Pinside member

6y 97,400 7,406 67 1

I'm shocked so many people voted GB over POTC....it must be because they sold so many more games ....

#47 4 years ago

DAD

MK6PIN

Pinside+ Pro!

Next round...tragedy as I think TAF could have held it's own in a softer bracket...getting more votes than other games that will move on..

#48 4 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

Pinside+ Addict

9-7 for the favored on my ticket.

#49 4 years ago

MLB

AFM95

Pinside member

Quoted from MK6PIN:
however, so I suspect the final winner still comes down to 2 pins....

You mean it comes down to two pins in the championship round? Haha!

#50 4 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

Pinside+ Addict