(Topic ID: 331250)

Rottendog MPU 327 - no displays

By Eric_S

1 year ago



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  • Latest reply 1 year ago by barakandl
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#1 1 year ago

I'm helping a buddy repair his Williams Laser Ball.  He had purchased a Rottendog MPU 327 combo board, so I got it installed and booting up, but no displays.  Everything else worked fine but all displays are dead.  I was able to repair the original boards as well and the displays work just fine with the original boards, so it appears the displays not working is an MPU 327 issue.  Do you have any ideas on what the issue may be?  There was nothing obviously wrong with the board that I could see. Anyone have any schematics for this board?

#2 1 year ago

tech bump

#3 1 year ago

I'd ditch the RD board. I've had very bad luck with them, including non working displays, and schematics/theory of operation are limited. Better off repairing the original boards if possible.

#4 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm working on the original board set now and have it booting up, still trying to figure out why it won't save and boots in to audit mode with the original boards.

I'd like to get the Rottendog board working too as my buddy spent good money on it and it hasn't worked since day 1. I sent an email through the Rottendog website, but haven't heard back yet.

#5 1 year ago
Quoted from Eric_S:Yeah, I'm working on the original board set now and have it booting up, still trying to figure out why it won't save and boots in to audit mode with the original boards.

Look for the contact tabs of the battery holder to be broken off. It is easy to overlook. With your multimeter check for the battery voltage at pin 22 of the 5101 RAM chip.

#6 1 year ago

Make sure you fire it up with coin door open one time so that the 5101 is writable and thusly is cleared. (Or at least on my Gorgar I seem to get stuck in audits after swapping batteries until I open the door once)

#7 1 year ago

Thanks for the ideas. I put a remote battery pack on the game as the old battery hold was already cut off. Diode D17 tested as an open, so I think that is the cause since there is no voltage at TP7 when the game is off. I'll work on replacing the diode tonight.

Any ideas on the missing displays on the Rottendog board?

#8 1 year ago

D17 was open and replacing it fixed the game and it boots up normal now for the original boards.

Still nothing on the Rottendog MPU display issue.

#9 1 year ago

Make sure you are not mixing up the two four pin plugs. One has the display blanking signal. I wouldn't think you are getting this on wrong if the originals work.

Displays have digit strobes and segment data. For everything to be blank, I would go to the strobes first. Check display strobes at 1J7 and 1J6 when the displays would be lit up (go into display test if you can blind). If the signal is solid high, check the PIA pins that control the decoder chip PA0 to PA3. The decoder is supposed to be always enabled. Looks like rottendog might be using a mod board to replace the obsolete decoder. That mod board might be a good place for things to go wrong at. If the PIA signals look good, maybe find a real 74154 , 74LS154 or 74HCT154. Probably don't want 74HC because there are not pull ups, but it would probably work.

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