You must install the ASIC chip in location U9, 6809 Processor U4, Security chip U22 and game ROM U6.

You can swap the parts from the old MPU board.
Does the original have acid damage?

You can try here.... http://www.shiftedbits.com/products.htm

Make sure to get the 68B09EP not a 6809P. The 'E' Suffix is important and needed for your WPC MPU. P suffix stands for it comes in a plastic package, not important.

People probably keep buying the 6809P from MarcoS and wonder why it doesnt work in their WMS sound board or WPC MPU. I wonder if Marcos even knows this.

Andrew

No need to get new IC's if they were not hit by acid.

Can try getting a security chip from John. Though I think you would have to email him. www.thatpinballplace.com

I get mine from shifted bits

It says right on their MPU095 page:

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Most of our distributors offer this board without game ROM, ASIC, Security Chip and Microprocessor. This is done to keep the price of the board as low as possible. The Game ROM, ASIC, Security Chip and Microprocessors rarely go bad and are socketed so they can be moved from the original board to our board with minimum of effort. Please check with the distributor you choose to see which chips you may need to move! Call us direct if this confuses you.
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http://rottendog.us/MPU095.html

Out of curiousity, does anyone know if Rottendog pays any royalties on these repro boards or is the IP generally considered to be in the public domain? Only asking because I was surprised by how much they charge.

It is his own design so i would assume he doesnt have to give any royalties Planetary Pinball.

I have no idea what kind of profit he makes on the boards, but i can tell you there is a lot of money to made with selling stuff to hobbyists. Look at all the LED suppliers, mod makers, board repair people, NVRAM sellers, cl flippers, etc.

THOSE guys are getting friggin' rich!

If Rottendog was playing royalties, the boards would be coming with holograms from Planetary.

The ASIC chip on Rottendog's A/V board, for example, is an original WMS part. He hasn't taken WMS code and made his own part - he's using factory parts.

The other ICs are parts from the original MFGs (not proprietary Bally/WMS code), and their use would not be of interest to Planetary.

Rottendog does indicate his boards are redesigned, so it's not a 1 exact clone - probably allows him to avoid royalties.

The boards don't include ROMs, so no WMS specific code is included with them.

The board costs are what they are largely because of the cost to manufacture them following whatever initial investment in research and development and to cover the costs of running a business. PCBs of this size are quite expensive though come down with large quantity orders.

I have a security chip form a Totan I parted out a few year ago I would sell.

8x11" PCB, double sided, green = 1.50 each shipped in quantity 200.

http://pcbshopper.com/

I'm well aware of the manufacturing costs as I worked in that industry in a former life. Boards are cheap, it's the silicon that will bankrupt you - as it did us. I still have some wafers from our last project though, they look cool.

I wasn't thinking of putting a wave soldering machine in the basement, just thinking aloud.

Those are bait and switch prices. You'll never get decent boards at that price.

You can read the review of the different board manufacturers on PCBShopper.

Some have really good prices on small boards, and some just the larger ones.

So getting the best price from OSH Park on some small boards, does not mean in any way that their price will be good on the larger footprint ones.

I got some boards last month from PCB4U and not only did they have the lowest price, they were made in USA. That never happens.