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(Topic ID: 34261)

Rottendog FLP023 Data East Flipper Board Issue


By thepita007

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

Hello,

My rottendog flipper board just came in today. Just finished installing it and now I have rapid fire flippers. I tested a different flipper board in my jurassic park and it had no issues. So something is wrong with the new rottendog board. Anyone else ever have this issue?

Thanks

#2 7 years ago

I have verified board is getting 50 and 9 vac. Flippers are still not getting hold voltage for some strange reason.

#3 7 years ago

Definitely not pleased with my first rottendog board. You would think a brand new board would function without issue. However, after a bit of searching seems to be a common problem.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/rotten-dog-replacement-boards

#4 7 years ago

I have to say every rottendog flipper board I've ever tried behaves this way. It's like the hold power never works. Hopefully this doesn't sour you up on their other products, many of which are decent.

2 weeks later
#5 7 years ago

Yes, this is indeed a problem for a batch we had built about 6 m
onths ago. The flipper will actuate, but the hold will not work. Our test fixture would not pick up the failure.

Sorry to all that got these boards. We are trying to replace all of them. Contact us if you have this problem.

Jim Knight
256 677 5300

#6 7 years ago

Jim, is there a fix we can apply here to the boards?

#7 7 years ago

Jim, did you manage to pinpoint the problem with the assembler? Out of spec part(s)? Bad assembly practices?

I really am curious.

Thanks,

RussMyers

#8 7 years ago

Jim, received my board back in the mail today and all is working perfectly now!

thanks for resolving the issue.

#9 7 years ago

The pre-drive transistor was wrong value. It should be a 2N3906 (I think). I will pick up the exact transistor number at the shop tomorrow and post again.

My build house asked me if they could substitute and I said yes...... It was my fault not anyone else's!

Look for tomorrow's post to know the exact part. We will fix for free though if you send us the board.

Jim Knight
256 677 5300

#10 7 years ago

Look forward to the post - I've got this issue too but being based in the UK seems a right pain to post it back overseas

#11 7 years ago

That makes a lot of sense from the behavior.

Good job sussing it out and getting it fixed. It happens.

As an old QA guy, there is no test bed like the real thing.

I'll be buying another one now that it's fixed, count on that.

RussMyers

Quoted from Rottendog:

The pre-drive transistor was wrong value. It should be a 2N3906 (I think). I will pick up the exact transistor number at the shop tomorrow and post again.
My build house asked me if they could substitute and I said yes...... It was my fault not anyone else's!
Look for tomorrow's post to know the exact part. We will fix for free though if you send us the board.
Jim Knight
256 677 5300

#12 7 years ago

Just got my flipper board in the mail yesterday for my DE Batman. Doing the same thing. Flippers not staying up and like rapid fire. I will be contacting Jim and sending it in for repair as well.

#13 7 years ago
Quoted from Rav:

Look forward to the post - I've got this issue too but being based in the UK seems a right pain to post it back overseas

Get the exact specs for the type and location of the incorrect transistors - they should be cheap and easy to replace for anyone with basic electronic repair skills.

RM

#14 7 years ago

Indeed the correct value/type of transistor for Q1, Q2 and Q3 should be 2N3906.
We have reworked about 40 of these flipper boards. We did however just receive a call today from someone who is returning one for me to look at.

Jim Knight
256 677 5300

1 week later
#15 7 years ago

I sent my flipper board in week and a half ago for fixing. Still waiting to hear about status of the repair and when it will be shipped back. I know I'm getting impatient. Hard to wait when you wait a few weeks to get a part in to fix a game and then now wait to get the part you bought fixed to fix your game. I will post when it is back and working again.

1 week later
#16 7 years ago

Got back my board and Jim fixed it right! My third RD board and all have worked great. I highly recommend them. Good product and great customer service. I will make sure to introduce myself to Jim at the Ohio Pinball Show.

#17 7 years ago

GREAT news!!

3 years later
#18 4 years ago

Just installed RD flipper board in TFTC and have The same problem pinsiders had 3years ago. Don't know If it still a bad batch problem but it sucks.

F1fuse burn 5 sec after booting The game

I Sent them an email. I hope I can fix it myself
Lou

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1 month later
#19 4 years ago

Looks like your dips are not right.....but I can't get mine working on Simpsons either...

#20 4 years ago

I have the board in JP with no issues. So they can't be all bad?

Your dips need to be set to 001001 for TFTC

#21 4 years ago

My board worked for awhile and then blew fuse 1. Right flipper stayed engaged.I had trouble finding a correct replacement . Jim said to use a f9530n transistor . Looks like this thread had different info on correct transistor to use. My broken board was lying around fir awhile. I have not tested the repaired board yet. I did not know there was a defect until I read this thread.

1 month later
#22 4 years ago
Quoted from MJW:

My board worked for awhile and then blew fuse 1. Right flipper stayed engaged.I had trouble finding a correct replacement . Jim said to use a f9530n transistor . Looks like this thread had different info on correct transistor to use. My broken board was lying around fir awhile. I have not tested the repaired board yet. I did not know there was a defect until I read this thread.

I just got a RD flp023 board and right flipper locked and fuse 1 blew.

1 year later
#23 3 years ago

I have this rotten dog board as well, the original board has problems,
so I put the rottendog in my WWF Royal Rumble on the lower flippers and it did the rapid fire flippers.
I then put it in my TMNT pinball and it worked fine, so I then put the TMNT one in my WWF Royal Rumble and it was then fine.

5 months later
#24 2 years ago

Thanks so much everyone. That we may have wrong transistors in their Rottendog FLP023 data east boards. I am helping a friend with his star wars machine. He also had bought one of these boards from them Rottendog FLP023. That has 2n5401 transistor for q1, q2, q3 on his. I will change them to 2n3906 for him. His q8 (IRF9530) is shorted, blowing f 3. I can fix both problems at the same time, and double check his flipper coil too.
thanks

7 months later
#25 2 years ago
Quoted from tonyf1965:

Thanks so much everyone. That we may have wrong transistors in their Rottendog FLP023 data east boards. I am helping a friend with his star wars machine. He also had bought one of these boards from them Rottendog FLP023. That has 2n5401 transistor for q1, q2, q3 on his. I will change them to 2n3906 for him. His q8 (IRF9530) is shorted, blowing f 3. I can fix both problems at the same time, and double check his flipper coil too.
thanks

I’ve got the same issue as above.

It looks like the q1, q2 and q3 transistors are still being shipped with the wrong transistors in them or I got an “old batch” board! The board I got has 2n5401 installed instead of the 2n3906.

I just purchased my “new board” in August 18 from K’s Arcade with 2n5401 installed. It worked for 3 months then F3 started to blow yesterday and after testing q8 it’s shorted apparently because of this issue. So disappointing to get something brand new and to not have the correct parts and take a crap on you after a few months.

I’m going to contact them and see if we can get this resolved quickly it would of been nice to have my game operational for Thanksgiving.

1 year later
#26 9 months ago

I have the same issue of the right flipper holding then blowing fuse F1. I had Q1, Q2, and Q3 changed but still have the same issue. Any advice?

1 month later
#27 8 months ago

Just adding on I have a board in a JP. Left flipper locks on, right flipper was machine gunning (cleaning cabinet switches, EOS, and reseating connector seemed to clear that up), and upper right flipper does not hold.

Is there a comparable product made by someone else? Rather get something else than deal with this thing based on everyone else’s comments.

3 months later
#28 5 months ago

Sad to report I had the same issue with my rottendog flipper board. Incorrect Q1/Q2/Q3 transistors. If you are reading this and happen to buy one of these boards...definitely check. They should be 2n3906. Even though my board was from 2018, it still had the issue.

3 weeks later
#29 4 months ago
Quoted from scootss:

Sad to report I had the same issue with my rottendog flipper board. Incorrect Q1/Q2/Q3 transistors. If you are reading this and happen to buy one of these boards...definitely check. They should be 2n3906. Even though my board was from 2018, it still had the issue.

Did it solve the problem after replacing the transistors?
Just curious for when i should buy such board

2 weeks later
#30 3 months ago
Quoted from Roverius:

Did it solve the problem after replacing the transistors?

Haven't replaced them (yet). I ended up with an original DE board which has worked like a champ for the past month.

1 week later
#31 3 months ago

Waited with baited breathe for a replacement, and it appears to be suffering the same issue

Are these being tested before sent out to customers does anyone know?

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